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Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

Never once whilst using a standard UK plug have I ever received a shock, however during my fumbling attempts last night to plug in my laptop in the dark I finally managed to find the correct alignment for the socket to exept the plug and received a rather powerful and painful electric shock !!

After talking to a few others about this at work today it seems that electric shocks from the mains power are really commen here in Switzerland.
I was just wondering what the general feeling was about how safe this type of plug/socket is? and if anyone else is frequently carless enough to shock themselves.
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Old 05.09.2007, 17:51
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

touch wood no, and I use a lot of French two pin plugs as well
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Old 05.09.2007, 18:20
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

It's like real candles on Christmas trees.

The Brits are such cack-handed tarts that they are not allowed to light real candles - otherwise they start a second fire of London. Hence the Brit-plug: huge, fused, earthed and idiot proof. The Swiss are just more careful and don't need such protection. Thus when a Brit starts fumbling with Swiss 'leccy, you'd better watch out and shocks will likely ensue - as they did.

The question is, is this the fault of the Swiss system and the British punter?
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

I'm a unsure as to how unsure you could get a shock from any electric plug that is in good condition unless you have your fingers on the metal prongs as you plug it in.

Or is there some weakness in the design of Swiss electric plugs that I have missed?
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Old 05.09.2007, 18:34
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

You didn't wire the plug yourself, did you?
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You didn't wire the plug yourself, did you?
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I'm a unsure as to how unsure you could get a shock from any electric plug that is in good condition unless you have your fingers on the metal prongs as you plug it in.

Or is there some weakness in the design of Swiss electric plugs that I have missed?
Not likely, just poor usage. People don't respect electricity and get hurt from it.. fork in the toaster???

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Never once whilst using a standard UK plug have I ever received a shock, however during my fumbling attempts last night to plug in my laptop in the dark I finally managed to find the correct alignment for the socket to exept the plug and received a rather powerful and painful electric shock !!

After talking to a few others about this at work today it seems that electric shocks from the mains power are really commen here in Switzerland.
I was just wondering what the general feeling was about how safe this type of plug/socket is? and if anyone else is frequently carless enough to shock themselves.
You shouldn't fumble around with electricity, period.
bare feet?, wet fingers?, touching the wrong bits?, some plugs have steel shafted pins, others have plastic which are child proof, maybe you should switch types.
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Old 05.09.2007, 20:57
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You didn't wire the plug yourself, did you?
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LMAO
I was being quite serious. I've had years of experience wiring up UK plugs, and have always been handy with an electrical screwdriver.

However, when I brought across my UK steam iron (think high power, and water around too), I found fitting a Swiss plug to it surprisingly fiddly in comparison, even though I had the proper tools.
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Old 05.09.2007, 21:22
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

hehe, perhaps you're just clumsy The only way to get shocked is to hold the plug by its tiny prongs touching the metal part, and somehow manage to get that deep enough in the wall-socket...
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The only way to get shocked is to hold the plug by its tiny prongs touching the metal part,
or having faulty insulation on the cable itself.
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

[quote=AbFab;100973]

The Brits are such cack-handed tarts Glad to know the Brits can count on your support Ab.

[quote=Woodsie;100976]

I'm a unsure as to how unsure you could get a shock from any electric plug that is in good condition unless you have your fingers on the metal prongs as you plug it in.

Uumm ... maybe
I did say it was dark !!! I think I learnt my lesson reguarding that school boy error tho

[quote=AbFab;100973]

Hence the Brit-plug: huge, fused, earthed and idiot proof.

Yeah, they sure are and I sure do miss them !!
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

I have yet to be shocked while plugging something in, in Switzerland or in Canada. The US/Canadian system is fairly similar other than the physical design, so I don't tend to find it dangerous. You can get those recessed outlets(like on every power bar I've seen) here that make it that much harder to shock yourself.

I have shocked myself before though. Apparently when I was about two I stuck a fork or something into an outlet and got quite a shock... Funny I don't remember that
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

The shock probably erased it from your memory

I have yet to get any electric shocks from anything here. (I know I shouldn't say these things!)

So far so good. However when I have worked in the states sometimes I have managed to get sockets to spark when trying to plu stuff in. Which was quite scary.

When in the UK the only eletric shocks I have received were when dealing with electrical items with the cases off and still plugged in. (D'oh!!)
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When in the UK the only eletric shocks I have received were when dealing with electrical items with the cases off and still plugged in. (D'oh!!)
The idea behind the UK mains plug having a longer prong for the earth is that the electricity is not connected until the plug is far enough in that you can't get your fingers on the live pins.

I once got a slight tingling feeling when I touched my washing machine. That was down to a loose earth in the plug. Potentially very dangerous.

The one real shock I got was when fixing a TV. It was switched off and disconnected, but there are capacitors in any tube screen (including computer monitors) which store high voltage, and I got zapped by that. I've left that to the professionals ever since.
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The one real shock I got was when fixing a TV. It was switched off and disconnected, but there are capacitors in any tube screen (including computer monitors) which store high voltage, and I got zapped by that. I've left that to the professionals ever since.
Ouch! You where very lucky, those things can kill you real quick. Never, ever pull the back off a CRT TV or computer monitor unless you really know what you are doing. I am assuming that the modern LCD versions are safer, but there probably isn't anything in them that you can repair anyway.
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

I've experienced the "blue flash" a few times when unplugging the iron. Didn't hurt but gave me a bit of a fright.
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

My Dad was a TV repair engineer for 30 years plus. He showed me how dangerous those things can be.

Think Star Wars Sith lightening and you probably about close. It is reallly like a lightening storm. He took the main connection off the back of the tube to show me what happens. Not sure if it was still plugged in or not at the time.
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My Dad was a TV repair engineer for 30 years plus. He showed me how dangerous those things can be.

Think Star Wars Sith lightening and you probably about close. It is reallly like a lightening storm. He took the main connection off the back of the tube to show me what happens. Not sure if it was still plugged in or not at the time.
Yeppers, have a look at a CRT/TV mainboard. You'll find a special transformer coil marked 24kV there. Tesla coils anyone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil

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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

Ok lets talk about Swiss light fittings.

I just got around to fitting some light fittings in our apartment. The thing is they don't use a standard Red, Blue and Yellow/Green or Even Red, Black wiring system. Every light fitting in our apartment has different coloured wiring. The only constant is that every fitting has a yellow wire... but the others can be red, grey, black, blue, yellow or green!!! Some of the lighting points have and earth(at least I presume the third wire is) and some do not!

Is there any constant on Swiss wiring, or is our apartment an exception? I consider this to be downright dangerous. I have managed to wire up 3 fittings so far by a mixture of elimination, luck and flipping the master circuit breaker back on while well away from any other electrical appliance! This just seams nuts to me.
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Re: Swiss mains plug/socket. Safe??

earth will be green/yellow and the other two whatever colour they had - who cares as it's Alternating Current.

So look for the earth and don't care about the other two.

Connect wrongly and, as you've found, the circuit will trip....
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earth will be green/yellow and the other two whatever colour they had - who cares as it's Alternating Current.

So look for the earth and don't care about the other two.

Connect wrongly and, as you've found, the circuit will trip....
Unfortunately, the lemon who wired the apartment in the first place decided to use yellow as either Live or Neutral(I know both the same on AC). I was initially going on the yellow has to be earth principle!!!

I've wired so far with the trip off, and then tested to see if there is a live going through the earth of the light fitting... So far I've been lucky! I will pick up a meter in work tomorrow to see try to figure out what's what.

I'm more interested to know is this normal???
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