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Old 10.07.2011, 00:38
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I believe the parable of the Good Samaritan is edited out of the Swiss Police version of The Bible.

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they followed them...
heard that one before. good for you for helping. I always appreciate people like that. next time tell the police bon this is the story, thats what I know and walk away. no point in wasting your time with them. go on with your evening.
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Old 10.07.2011, 00:49
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heard that one before. good for you for helping. I always appreciate people like that. next time tell the police bon this is the story, thats what I know and walk away. no point in wasting your time with them. go on with your evening.
Can`t argue with them afterall they are COPS they need to know the situation and its more difficult if I could not clearly say what the story actually is.
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Old 10.07.2011, 02:10
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Re: Its difficult to help in switzerland

All can i say to you is bravo.. and yeah sometimes you dont even get a thanks for doing a good deed.. but that is not why you do it.

also most of the times the feeling you get from helping someone who is really in need of it, is best that any "thank you" they can say to you.

an the police at least they show up...is better than standing all night waiting for them...
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Old 10.07.2011, 05:01
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Re: Its difficult to help in switzerland

Hey OP,
You were brave,
you did YOUR job very well,
and the cops did their's PERFECTLY.

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I was feeling like a criminal standing infront of cops giving loads of answers.

Hey common...I was trying to help you, I called you, you make me stand for one hour ... atleast, 1 thanks maybe...
Do not feel like a criminal, they have to do what they did. There are a number of cases where the seemingly good guy is actually found to be the real culprit. IT IS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!!!
When you're clean(innocent)and have nothing to fear, just do what the cops ask you to, and all will be fine!! and that's what you did.

YES, the cops SHOULD have really given you an extremely big thank you.
They didn't!!
But be rest assured, right now ,that
the 'swiss guy' is really thanking you,
I am thanking you, and
Switzerland is thanking you
for making it safer for us to live here.

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well, what if he never explained what really had happened?
Oh, they(the cops) have their (many,many) ways of finding out.
Just the person's body movements,behavior,choice of reply etc would prove his actual intent. and this is only 1 of the ways!!

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On Monday, I went to help an elderly man who was rolling around on the pavement. He was very drunk, had a gash on his forehead and couldn't walk. To cut a long story short, he ended up pawing all over me and asking if I'd come back to his place.

Sometimes you don't get rewarded for doing a good deed, but that's not really why you do them. I add another "well done" for helping. It's so much easier just to walk away.
I avoid helping a drunk. It gets me nowhere.
(They cannot even talk sense.)
At the most, if they're in danger to themselves and to others,like if he's lying in the middle of the road, I would pick him up from his armpits,drag him way to the side and leave him there.
Drunks are used to being drunk. Somehow they manage!!

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OP, don't let this encounter get you down!! Don't be pissed with yourself and with the cops.
You did well !! Be proud!!
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Old 10.07.2011, 05:45
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Re: Its difficult to help in switzerland

Sam, you did good, even though it was risky, and I don't mean so much risky regarding interaction with the police officers but rather, with whomever hurt the guy you were helping!

Like some others, I have a few stories of foolhardy bravery when young and out late, not my own usually but my best friend who tended to jump in and help without regard to anything except saving the one in trouble. We found ourselves requiring police help more than once after interceding on the behalf of others, lol.

Fortunately though, those days she and I were "known" to the local police as we'd had the job of remaking / repairing glasses for some of them after they'd dealt with the unruly... so since they knew us, and knew her proclivity for trouble, the plain-clothes guys tended to keep an eye on us a bit when we were out.



Two weeks isn't long I don't think for investigations to go on though so you maybe want to take a friend who speaks the local language around to the police station just to make sure that you're in the clear AND maybe offer availability if they have further questions. Good for you for helping, I'm happy to hear that things came out alright for you in more ways than one.
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I avoid helping a drunk. It gets me nowhere.
(They cannot even talk sense.)
I didn't know he was drunk until I went over to help. As far as I was concerned, he was an elderly man collapsed on the pavement, and people were just looking at him and not helping.

At one point he asked "tu parles français?" and I thought "yes, I speak français, not fraaauunsshhais".
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Re: Its difficult to help in switzerland

I saw an old tramp being beaten up by a group of youngsters on my way home from town one day (in the UK) - i hooted to make them aware I'd seen them- but knew I couldn't get involved. I rounded the corner and dialed 999 and explained it was urgent as they were bashing his head against a lamp-post, and to call an ambulance. They phoned me the next day to thank me as I'd probably saved his life. Sometimes you have to find a way to help without actually getting involved yourself, in a dangerous situation.
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Ah Odile reminded me of something I saw just this past Friday. I was at the tram station by Badischer Bahnhof, when two men started arguing. One was shouting and the other was quiet. Body language was quite clear who was the aggressor.

Everyone looked over to see what was going on when the shouting began. A group of three young men, covered in tattoos, shorts hanging off their asses, those big plugs in their earlobes took notice. You know... stereotypical young thugs.

One of them yelled, "Hey! and the three ran over and scared the aggressor off, bringing peace to the world.

It was rather ironic to see it, because you expect kids that look like that to cause trouble. But in this instance, they were the heroes.
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sorrey to say but the police here is
1. horrible
2. lazy as hell
3. scared as hell from people
4. There to be the middle person between the commune and business owners
5. hope
6. give tickets


really??????
wow !
even in Switzerland ???
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I must have made the world's most impotent attempt to help someone yesterday - I was watching a couple across the road from me have some kind of argument where the guy was definitely bullying the girlfriend / wife, pulling her by the wrist when she was trying to pull back then he was all over her trying to kiss her while she was trying to resist and put some distance between them.

What did I do? Put my phone to my ear and start gesticulating over towards them as if I was talking to the police. I felt so sorry for the girl but I didn't want to get involved. The guy saw me and slackened off then they wandered off. I couldn't help thinking about what might have happened once they'd got behind closed doors.
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What did I do? Put my phone to my ear and start gesticulating over towards them as if I was talking to the police. I felt so sorry for the girl but I didn't want to get involved. The guy saw me and slackened off then they wandered off. I couldn't help thinking about what might have happened once they'd got behind closed doors. [/QUOTE]


Clever... at least you temporarily diffused the situation...
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