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Old 18.11.2011, 16:03
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Well perhaps they didn't want to tar all with the same brush after one ecounter, but perhaps had a run of bad luck with them all being largely similar.
But that still begs the question: How long does it take your friends to notice a dull, boring person devoid of charm and life?
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Old 18.11.2011, 16:22
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But that still begs the question: How long does it take your friends to notice a dull, boring person devoid of charm and life?
one or two dates, some people need to be given the benefit of the doubt.

A chance meeting in a bar could spark an attraction

The first date would give you a pretty good idea

Second, maybe my stamp collection is actually more interesting
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why are people judging other peoples choices?

one argument: so on the one hand we have Men and probably women exploiting a human being as a life partner (arguable as to how many) . Exploiting their different cultural values and expectations on life.

and on the other we have those moralising wearing clothes, driving cars, owning televisions made by similar people and probably being exploited too. Again exploiting their different cultural values and expectations on life.

as to the original question... why not just ask them? probably has something to do with love?
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why are people judging other peoples choices
Put your thoughts on a public forum, expect to be judged. If you don't want to be judged, don't post. You've just got to suck it up and move on.

Simples.
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Simples.
perhaps i should have been more specific.

some of the posts i read here have a very judgemental tone. It may not have been the original posters intention but her questions assumes that swiss marrying swiss is normal and that swiss marrying non-swiss is not. some peoples comment carry this idea through. that is what i was referring to be people being judgemental.
i have no problem with people critiquing argument which a few people have done well
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Old 18.11.2011, 18:55
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Of my two step-sons, the elder (who was born in Canada and lived there unil he has two and has always spoken English well), has always had SG-speaking girlfriends, and basically hung around CH.

His younger brother, who was always the more "Swiss" of the two (not speaking English until he was 7), and has traveled the world and retired from the military at 27 (he got credit for the two tours of service he did in the Balkans), has always had English speaking girlfriends (and now fiancee) of southeast-Asian origin.

My (Swiss) wife's ex-husband is Vietnamese (she didn't want any Ti-chinese )

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Why so many Swiss men marry a foreign woman?
My Husband is Swiss, we met and married in Australia. I have to say after living here for over a year I really understand him allot better. I thought he was very charming but a little Quirky, but after living here and getting to know the culture, I totally get why he is the way he is. I don't think he is as Anal in his way of thinking as he was when we first met. living in Australia for over ten years he has become allot more open and out going. He told me how he loved how happy and easy going the Australians and our way of life is compared to Switzerland.
I certainly agree.
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Hhhmmmm... I agree with so many of the statements above... now the question is... where/how to find that Swiss man?! hahahah

LOL. Good one. This thread has been pretty intense and your post is so funny!
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Old 19.11.2011, 02:40
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Wow! The word generalization is an understatement here!


LOL! Good one!
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Old 19.11.2011, 04:08
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That was a bit unclear from my side. Swiss men tend, in relation to Swiss women, more to intercultural relationships. But did you have a look at the study? I never wrote anything about old Swiss men and their Thai girls, that was brought up by other people. I just wrote that on this forum a few people think that it is not acceptable to assume that Asian women are mail order brides. Some other people on this thread do not have a problem to assume exactly that when a Swiss men is involved.

So where are the folks from "We are not all mail order brides" and why don't they speak up on this thread. I would be pretty pissed if I were an Asian women reading some the posts on here.

I'm Asian and I'm marrying my Swiss fiance in a few weeks. We met in Malaysia, where I was born and bred, because that's where he worked for three years and then we spent last year getting our post grad degrees in Australia, before deciding we'll settle down in Zurich. I must say its been pretty much a roller coaster ride for me. Not everyone but there are a handful of people that have given me the impression that I'm here looking for an opportunity at a better life etc etc. It drives me crazy because if anything my life was perfect back home. Amazing family, great friends, awesome job that I loved. But hey we all compromise and try to find middle ground when it comes to love right?

I guess what's worse is that people who make these asinine assumptions (if not, judgements) have no idea how frustrating it is when someone in my position moves here. Everything from the weather to which side of the road that's driven on is DIFFERENT. Yeah of course I was aware of these changes but its so much more than that. It so frustrating when I can't even read a menu at the restaurant let alone understand how to navigate my Sunrise account menu, yup the only language option I had is German, Italian or French. I mean that's just from the top of my head. Then get this, I learn things like counting and the days in High German only to have everyone around me speak YET AGAIN ANOTHER language, dialect.......yup, Swiss German.

I apologise that my post has been kinda 'everywhere' and doesn't quite relate to the original post but seriously people, next time any of you come across an Asian woman (a professional at that) who moves here because she's marrying a Swiss man -- think about the life altering phase she has to go through as well!

p.s. I hold nothing against Swiss German or High German, I just get exhausted sometimes, trying to stay on top of it all.
Also the Swiss men and women I've met are mostly an awesome bunch of people. IMHO, all these generalisations etc about them being humourless or snooty are just misconceived perceptions or maybe you just met a couple of the not-so-awesome ones -- which I might add exist in EVERY society!

So yeahh...here's my bit
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Old 19.11.2011, 04:25
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I'm Asian and I'm marrying my Swiss fiance in a few weeks. We met in Malaysia, where I was born and bred
congrats on your upcoming wedding tequlia911! (i am also msian married to a swiss guy ;-)

i wouldn't worry too much about this thread and others similar to it. every quarter we come up with the :
are-swissmen-women-boring-exciting-compared-to-<insert home country of expat>

also don't bother with learning swiss german (you will never succeed) just stick to high german
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Hhhmmmm... I agree with so many of the statements above... now the question is... where/how to find that Swiss man?! hahahah


I can answer that, go to Australia, the ones worth marring don't seem to stick around here!!!
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Old 19.11.2011, 13:43
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I'm Asian and I'm marrying my Swiss fiance in a few weeks. We met in Malaysia, where I was born and bred, because that's where he worked for three years and then we spent last year getting our post grad degrees in Australia, before deciding we'll settle down in Zurich. I must say its been pretty much a roller coaster ride for me. Not everyone but there are a handful of people that have given me the impression that I'm here looking for an opportunity at a better life etc etc. It drives me crazy because if anything my life was perfect back home. Amazing family, great friends, awesome job that I loved. But hey we all compromise and try to find middle ground when it comes to love right?

I guess what's worse is that people who make these asinine assumptions (if not, judgements) have no idea how frustrating it is when someone in my position moves here. Everything from the weather to which side of the road that's driven on is DIFFERENT. Yeah of course I was aware of these changes but its so much more than that. It so frustrating when I can't even read a menu at the restaurant let alone understand how to navigate my Sunrise account menu, yup the only language option I had is German, Italian or French. I mean that's just from the top of my head. Then get this, I learn things like counting and the days in High German only to have everyone around me speak YET AGAIN ANOTHER language, dialect.......yup, Swiss German.

I apologise that my post has been kinda 'everywhere' and doesn't quite relate to the original post but seriously people, next time any of you come across an Asian woman (a professional at that) who moves here because she's marrying a Swiss man -- think about the life altering phase she has to go through as well!

p.s. I hold nothing against Swiss German or High German, I just get exhausted sometimes, trying to stay on top of it all.
Also the Swiss men and women I've met are mostly an awesome bunch of people. IMHO, all these generalisations etc about them being humourless or snooty are just misconceived perceptions or maybe you just met a couple of the not-so-awesome ones -- which I might add exist in EVERY society!

So yeahh...here's my bit
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Old 19.11.2011, 14:50
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I'm Asian and I'm marrying my Swiss fiance in a few weeks. We met in Malaysia, where I was born and bred, because that's where he worked for three years and then we spent last year getting our post grad degrees in Australia, before deciding we'll settle down in Zurich. I must say its been pretty much a roller coaster ride for me. Not everyone but there are a handful of people that have given me the impression that I'm here looking for an opportunity at a better life etc etc. It drives me crazy because if anything my life was perfect back home. Amazing family, great friends, awesome job that I loved. But hey we all compromise and try to find middle ground when it comes to love right?

I guess what's worse is that people who make these asinine assumptions (if not, judgements) have no idea how frustrating it is when someone in my position moves here. Everything from the weather to which side of the road that's driven on is DIFFERENT. Yeah of course I was aware of these changes but its so much more than that. It so frustrating when I can't even read a menu at the restaurant let alone understand how to navigate my Sunrise account menu, yup the only language option I had is German, Italian or French. I mean that's just from the top of my head. Then get this, I learn things like counting and the days in High German only to have everyone around me speak YET AGAIN ANOTHER language, dialect.......yup, Swiss German.

I apologise that my post has been kinda 'everywhere' and doesn't quite relate to the original post but seriously people, next time any of you come across an Asian woman (a professional at that) who moves here because she's marrying a Swiss man -- think about the life altering phase she has to go through as well!

p.s. I hold nothing against Swiss German or High German, I just get exhausted sometimes, trying to stay on top of it all.
Also the Swiss men and women I've met are mostly an awesome bunch of people. IMHO, all these generalisations etc about them being humourless or snooty are just misconceived perceptions or maybe you just met a couple of the not-so-awesome ones -- which I might add exist in EVERY society!

So yeahh...here's my bit
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Are you sure he didn't order you from a mail order catalogue?

What catalogue? ......it was a menu!
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JBZ86 what happened to your rep? I thought you were green and now 3 reds? lol Funny and entertaining place this forum.

I find Swiss men boring too but there are many exceptions. Younger ones are much better but middle aged ones are horror.
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Old 28.11.2011, 13:54
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JBZ86 what happened to your rep? I thought you were green and now 3 reds? lol Funny and entertaining place this forum.

I find Swiss men boring too but there are many exceptions. Younger ones are much better but middle aged ones are horror.

I have no idea, I don't even know how that works, I assume on a groan and thank basis??

I know a ruffled a few feathers on the anti-smoking thread. Then there are also little EF cliques, whereby one person will takw the piss (or have banter), then you banter back and they get upset and then all their buddies join in and get uptight and groan at you too, then you banter with them and they get upset. Some people like to give but cant take.

I am not too fussed about it. I have helped potentially house someone, employ someone, and given good advice on tax related issues, so I think some people value me, hahahaha
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There are also little EF cliques, whereby one person will take the piss (or have banter), then you banter back and they get upset and then all their buddies join in and get uptight and groan at you too, then you banter with them and they get upset. Some people like to give but cant take.
You know I've so noticed this. Its like being back in high school-- its insane!
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Old 28.11.2011, 17:03
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You know I've so noticed this. Its like being back in high school-- its insane!

There seems to be an old guard of EF users, who feel like they are the gods of the forum, and you are not allowed to stand your ground against them, merely bow to their greatness
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There seems to be an old guard of EF users, who feel like they are the gods of the forum, and you are not allowed to stand your ground against them, merely bow to their greatness
It's really all in your head this god complex.
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