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Why so many Swiss men marry a foreign woman?
Maybe they are all "Shopping across the border"?
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Old 10.07.2011, 21:48
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Absolutely Pather, And I'd like to apologize unreservedly if my comment caused offense. I hate stereotypes myself, and I am fully aware that there are plenty of cases which just do not fit that pattern. I have a few friends who've married wonderful women from all over the world whom they either met on their travels or here in CH, just like my British/South African OH fell for me when I went to work in London (we met on a train, not on a plane, lol).

But I also happen to know many men around here who have done what I've described above, either because they could not find a woman or after a divorce.
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Old 10.07.2011, 21:55
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thats not fair! I was a a birthday party yesterday, and my hubby, and the other 3 men who were married to foriegners, were all quite decent!
So, the quite unappealing, older gentlemen with a young Asian wife is just a myth?
Come on, I was talking about tendency...just because your hubby and some of his friends don't fall into the norm doesn't necessarily mean, that it don't exist.


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My hubby said that it was my easy going, down to earth personality (not to mention the curves and the lips)
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I'd also like to add, that the Swiss do travel..but basically to a very few standard destinations...Thailand, Cuba, Dom.Rep, Egypt..and the younger ones head to the US. Therefore, I'd say that they marry a foreign partner because of their travel itinerary is incorrect.
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Old 10.07.2011, 22:05
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No, but they could try and adapt the fact Swiss and European women are no longer happy to just 'serve' - be it in the kitchen, with kids or in the bedroom, but wish to be partners, not necessarily 'equal' as in the same, but on the same level. Not everybody is born a beauty- but they could try to make a bit of an effort with their personal hygiene, weight and general fitness- rather than 'buy' somebody who won't be too picky, for all sorts of reasons.
Lots of assumptions in this post.
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Old 10.07.2011, 22:07
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Re: Swiss men

The thread seems to be addressing the old Swiss guy with Asian wife issue (well not that it's an issue), but in truth they are rather few and far between.
The real mix of populations comes from the waves of immigration from the 50s, 60s and 70s when many Italians, Spanish and Portuguese came to Switzerland. Their children are now fully integrated into the Swiss culture as they were born here and grew up here. Many still have their (now) European passports and are completely melted into the indigeneous population. Many are married to Swiss.

So of these "foreign" weddings, how many really are so ? I believe a very large % are regular Swiss guys married to the Italian girl next door.
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Again sorry if it offends. Not the intention here. I base my comments on local cases I have observed. I would be interested how you explain the phenomenon often observed, especially in rural areas. Eg, older, less than attractive men- who 'find' wives that a/ will serve their purpose/s (whatever they are) and b/do not require of the men some effort be it to adapt to a modern world where women want to be partners on the same level and expect their men to make some effort with their appearance, etc.

Why would they go on hols to bring back a wife, or choose one via an agency catalogue. Please do not say this does not happen, as it DOES.
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Old 10.07.2011, 22:21
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Please do not say this does not happen, as it DOES.
Please, go up to every mixed culture couple that you see, stare the man straight in the eye, and ask 'So, which catalog did you get her out of and why aren't you more loyal to us local girls?' Let us know how you get on.
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Old 10.07.2011, 22:24
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Please, go up to every mixed culture couple that you see, stare the man straight in the eye, and ask 'So, which catalog did you get her out of and why aren't you more loyal to us local girls?' Let us know how you get on.
You're taking this out of context (probably because of personal reasons).

..but yeah, google is your friend.

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Old 10.07.2011, 22:25
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Honestly Peg A, .... what??
What do you mean "what??"

My father was a career US Marine, I lived in ten different States (one of them three separate times) and in Japan before moving here. Here is SMALL.

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... does your husband know you feel this way?
Yes, he does. He was amazed by my willingness to drive 12hrs to visit my brother in Virginia on one of his visits to me in Florida. My coming here was more necessity than desire, he'd wanted to move to the US but it simply didn't work out that way.
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Re: Swiss men

Why should I want them to be loyal? I have married a foreigner myself and we are therefore a mixed couple. I also have many friends who are also in so called mixed partnerships- as stated above in my apology.

But I also know many which fit my other description. We all know that these cases exist, and can be quite numerous in rural areas particularly.
The questions I ask YOU, is why this is, in your opinion, if it is not for the reasons I have stated in a previous post. I would be genuinely interested.

PegA - lol, I think you missed the joke (you said something seemed quite big but was in fact quite small )
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Old 10.07.2011, 22:27
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You're taking this out of context (probably because of personal reasons).

..but yeah, google is your friend.

http://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&sa...=g-L1&aql=&oq=
I'm challenging assumptions based on squishy thinking and personal anecdotes. You should try it sometime.
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Old 10.07.2011, 22:29
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I'm challenging assumptions based on squishy thinking and personal anecdotes. You should try it sometime.
...too many big words in your post. You know I'm somewhat limited.
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Old 10.07.2011, 22:31
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Why should I want them to be loyal? I have married a foreigner myself and we are therefore a mixed couple. I also have many friends who are also in so called mixed partnerships- as stated above in my apology.

But I also know many which fit my other description. We all know that these cases exist, and can be quite numerous in rural areas particularly.
The questions I ask YOU, is why this is, in your opinion, if it is not for the reasons I have stated in a previous post. I would be genuinely interested.
I also am in and know many people in mix culture marriages and none of them are as you described. So who's 'right'? And if there's to be a judgement shouldn't the only one be 'are they happy?'. Given the rather high divorce rates in western countries, finding happiness with one's partner seems to be highly elusive. If some has pursued a 'non-traditional' route and both parties are genuinely happy with the outcome, who are you to judge?
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Old 10.07.2011, 22:34
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I also am in and know many people in mix culture marriages
I wouldn't have guessed. Where is your wife from?
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...too many big words in your post. You know I'm somewhat limited.
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I wouldn't have guessed. Where is your wife from?
Gee, what's the right answer to that question?
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Gee, what's the right answer to that question?
Switzerland?
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Absolutely- I do not believe my comments were judgemental as such.
Do you live in a very rural area? Do you genuinely believe that all those women who are 'purchased' on catalogue or via agencies are happy, free and respected on par. Some are, some might - but can you truly say some are not? One I knew committed suicide a few years back just down the road, leaving young children. Her husband was at school with me, and was a bit of a loner. He was really kind to her, and treated her very well, but she did not love him and felt so lonely. Some of these women have no access to money, don't drive, etc, and their passports are hidden away. Some are very happy, that is true too. But can you deny many are denied any rights or true partnership?
You haven't answered the question though. What motivates the men to find a wife from far away lands via catalogue or agency?
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Gee, what's the right answer to that question?
a) some Asian country
b) not really sure
e) none of the above
g) none of your damn business
h) only a and g
j) only e and g

Forgive me for missing a few letters. I'm new to this whole alphabet thing.
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Where a wife (or husband) comes from is irrelevant imho.
But whether said OH was 'found' via catalogue or foreign agency is in this instance. I do think asking the question directly to one person is not fair however.

I am Swiss but I do not stare - I smile a lot though

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