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Old 11.07.2011, 22:28
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

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Make sure you iron the old Züritipps and Tages Anzeigers before bundling. 20Minuten and pizza flyers don't need ironing. The knot needs to be a truckers hitch or bowline / two half hitches. Overhand knots will result in Sandgrounders knickers getting in a twist.

Clearly, Apèro time went happy hour.
Not to mention, Overhand knots can come untied under pressure. Then there would be dumping of an inadvertent kind. No use making more work for the people who handle our recycling.
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Old 11.07.2011, 22:30
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

So do I! Including any 5 rappen coins laying around ofcouse.

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this is why i stopped bothering with recycling and just throw everything in the zuri sacks.
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And in my case, the thought that an errant recycler might, whatever the reason, consider leaving their uncollected trash lying around. What branch of science is that attitude based on?
Not science.

Just being a nice human being that doesn't think everyone and every action is evil to me. Even though I have seen plenty of things that indicate this might not actually be true.
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Old 11.07.2011, 22:33
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So do I! Including any 5 rappen coins laying around ofcouse.
Those tend to vacuumed up.

All discussion aside... I actually liked the recycling process in the CH, once I got all of the information. It was very cool to see how much stuff I didn't need to put in a Kerichtsak. And that was with all food waste going in the bin rather and down the garbage disposal, like we have here. Interestingly enough, I used that device less since moving back home, as well.
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don't forget to turn off the steam button on the iron, dry iron is best for paper.. if newspapers get wet, you could try drying them on the radiator prior to ironing.. and i put mine together with masking tape, keeps the bundle neat
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Old 11.07.2011, 22:36
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In this case, you can include something like " <this message is too short> " or similar variation after your response.

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Old 11.07.2011, 22:40
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

I haven't been in Lausanne too long, but there seems to be nowhere to put the PET bottles anywhere in Lausanne 1005.
The concierge told me to put them in the black-plastic garbage-bag.
I'm having a hard time trying to be a good upstanding citizen.
Maybe I should have done a degree in recycling rather than vegetable-carving.
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

Even though it costs a little more, the Swiss do not make it worth while to recycle here. What incentive is there to keep recyclables in your house for a month or more at a time if you miss the one day window to lay out your type of recycling? With a 600 CHF possible fine if you are not perfect about it, it makes someone who used to do all the recycling they could in the US a little less Green.
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Not science.

Just being a nice human being that doesn't think everyone and every action is evil to me. Even though I have seen plenty of things that indicate this might not actually be true.
I hear you. Maybe he's not in control of the circumstances. But he is in control of the consequences and the effect those consequences have on others in the apartment block. So somebody was a jerk and dumped the stuff back on the doorstep. A nice human being wouldn't be a jerk and leave it there for somebody else to clear up.
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Old 11.07.2011, 22:50
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

For example, I would like to know the recycling rules in my commune, St-Sulpice (VD). So I decide to avail myself to my commune for more information. Tell me about the wealth of valuable information that you get about recycling when you follow this link (the official website of my commune):
http://www.st-sulpice.ch/
However, I'm sure that the ticket for infractions should be arriving any day by post.
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Old 11.07.2011, 22:51
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don't forget to turn off the steam button on the iron, dry iron is best for paper.. if newspapers get wet, you could try drying them on the radiator prior to ironing.. and i put mine together with masking tape, keeps the bundle neat
Masking tape is ok as long as you adopt a belt and braces approach and use gaffer tape [brown only] over the masking tape, in case the inferior foreign made masking tape comes loose in the rain.

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For example, I would like to know the recycling rules in my commune, St-Sulpice (VD). So I decide to avail myself to my commune for more information. Tell me about the wealth of valuable information that you get about recycling when you follow this link (the official website of my commune):
http://www.st-sulpice.ch/
However, I'm sure that the ticket for infractions should be arriving any day by post.
Ah no, Tearley. You're wrong there.
Your adoreable concierge has been asked to hand it to you in person
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

There is no SWISS answer here- just as there is no UK answer. Each area/commune has its own system. When I was younger we collected the paper once a year for local clubs. As described above, the bundles had to be thrown on a cart, then carefully stacked, then moved again to a lorry or train carriage. Hence the absolute need to bundles to be not too big, fairly even and TIED securely. Both magazines and newspapers and advertising material was included. As said above, if the paper is too heavy it will break the bags, even worse if the bags have got wet. And papers loose in paper bags cannot be handled onto a cart, let alone be stacked up then moved again. No its not a question of pig-headedness Swiss style, but logic and legistics. If the bags broke, they probably decided they didn't have time to gather them up again and tie them into bundles, so they were left. Especially if they were picked up by teenagers and not professionals. Cardboard has always been recycled separately.

In my area NOW, there are no collections whatsoever. Neither for normal bins, or any recycling. Each area has very large sunken containers where rubbish bags are thrown in, the lid having to be opened with a credit style card (1 per household). All recycling has to be taken to a few larger areas where plastics, papers, cardboard, tins, vegetable/garden compostables, oil, etc, containers are available.
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

For what it's worth, I avail myself of my mom having a car, and when she makes a recycling run, I go along and take my stuff. The recycling center (in our case, Schneider in Meilen) recycles everything imaginable (paper, cardboard, glass, metal, PET, batteries, oil, electronics, styrofoam, broken pottery, etc etc etc). Only bulk garbage costs anything to dispose of.

Schneider doesn't require paper to be bundled. They do, however, ask you to put the paper bags in with the cardboard, so I guess the special coatings or treatment of paper bags maybe is legitimate.

Either way, it saves us from having to bundle the paper.
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In my area NOW, there are no collections whatsoever.... All recycling has to be taken to a few larger areas where plastics, papers, cardboard, tins, vegetable/garden compostables, oil, etc, containers are available.
What about old folk? And before any smart arse makes a wise crack, I mean collection of their rubbish, not recycling of them personally.
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

In olden days (like when Cinderella roamed the face of the planet), it was customary to daub a black cross on the front door of those who were afflicted with the plague.

It might not be your paper bundles causing the fracas, rather someone with a loud cough or runny nose which has put the fear of god into the neighborhood and they're just subtly marking the location out of hygienic considerations.
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Neighbours and friends help. No problems.
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Old 11.07.2011, 23:02
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What about old folk?
Lots of gaffer tape and only to be left out before 7am.

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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

To give everyone an update. Around the time of the original post I cleared up one bag of paper put it in a black bag (as I was emptying the bin at the time and put it out for disposal), I had no room for the second bag so I figured I would do it this evening. So tonight I go down to tidy it up and someone has made more of a mess and this time put our family name up on the door pointing to the rubbish So they would rather do this than ring our bell telling us what we had done wrong and asking us to tidy it - this country is a great place to live but behaviour like this takes some getting used too.
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

As others have said, it's a Swiss thing. People here are very passive aggressive. When I first moved to Zurich, I had a flatmate from Taiwan. Bless him - he didn't figure out that when you're done using the laundry room, you have to empty the fluff drawer and leave it out so it clearly shows no fluff.

The next person decided to pull it out and leave it on our mailbox with a nasty note. I drew a face on the note and used the fluff to fashion a wig around the face. Rather pretty face, if I do say so myself.
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