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Old 13.07.2011, 08:53
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

We just have a big bin next to our appartment for all our paper waste, including boxes. The only thing not accepted, AFAIK, is Tetrapak, which goes with the rest of the rubbish.
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

Given that I do actually want to recycle and wasn't aware until earlier in this thread that shredded paper cannot easily be recycled; is there a secure place where people can take their sensitive papers for recycling?

I have been having a clear out and have lots of old paperwork that I would normally shred but if there is such a place then I could take it all there.
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Given that I do actually want to recycle and wasn't aware until earlier in this thread that shredded paper cannot easily be recycled; is there a secure place where people can take their sensitive papers for recycling?

I have been having a clear out and have lots of old paperwork that I would normally shred but if there is such a place then I could take it all there.
Our company has used these people in the past but they charge a flat charge of CHF 160 then charge per kilo thereafter.
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Thanks for that. Now, does anyone know of a place that isn't so expensive
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

It depends where you live. In Thun they accept in a paper bag, in Interlaken not.
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Thanks for that. Now, does anyone know of a place that isn't so expensive
Deserted car park, can of four-star and a box of matches...?
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

The 'rules' seem to be different everywhere.

Where I lived before, cerealboxes, egg cartons etc. would classify as cardboard and could be collected in paper bags, because a paper bag eqals cardboard.

In our new town, the collection is a big mess (infrequent, and collectors often miss spots) so we have decided to bring our stuff to the Sammelstelle ourselves. There the guy told us that the aforementioned food packaging is 'paper', paper bags belong to general household waste, and only proper thick cardboard is 'Karton'.

So now I am just making piles of different materials, go to the Sammelstelle, ask the guy where I need to put what, and dump it in the containers. No more bundling, fool-proof and I don't have to remember collection dates.
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That's a nasty way to top yourself.

What's wrong with simple communication ?
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Switzerland and Simple communication cannot be used in the same sentence

we just throw all ours in the bins on the street that halfway underground. Otherwise it is used for bbq's or whatever
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we just throw all ours in the bins on the street that halfway underground. Otherwise it is used for bbq's or whatever
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Oh the irony...
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

i've now got an outdoor burny thing and was thinking of sticking all my cardboard and other burnables into that and getting rid of it that way.

this seems to be way too easy, and so wondered there must be a catch. instead of waiting for the neighbourhood police to get me, i thought i would check with EF before embarking on my cunning plan...
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i've now got an outdoor burny thing and was thinking of sticking all my cardboard and other burnables into that and getting rid of it that way.

this seems to be way too easy, and so wondered there must be a catch. instead of waiting for the neighbourhood police to get me, i thought i would check with EF before embarking on my cunning plan...
As long as you don't get caught doing it...I would say its fine.
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i've now got an outdoor burny thing and was thinking of sticking all my cardboard and other burnables into that and getting rid of it that way.

this seems to be way too easy, and so wondered there must be a catch. instead of waiting for the neighbourhood police to get me, i thought i would check with EF before embarking on my cunning plan...
to use cardboard and paper for BBQ purposes is perfectly legal !
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

Funny about the paper bag - I always put my cardboard in a paper bag (although I always tie up the bag in string so the stuff doesn't fly all over) and there are never any problems. Actually, I think my whole neighbourhood uses paper bags. However this is for cardboard - I rarely have enough paper to recycle on its own, so I just stuff whatever I have together with the cardboard. I did notice that when only the paper recycling day is, hardly anyone uses the paper bags.


Anyways, since everyone is ranting, just to notice that garbage collection in Zurich is extremely complicated for I would say no particular reason. Paper & cardboard are exclusively collected on the curb, and separately (why?). On the other hand, glass and metal are collected in the special dumpsters which are one per several streets, "ordinary" garbage is in dumpsters which are several per street, and - the best part of all - plastic is only at supermarkets (wtf!?) and apart from milk bottles, only PET! (despite the fact that 50% of plastic packaging is HDPE, which is btw the same plastic as the Swiss milk bottles - hence I always chuck (HD)PE stuff into the "Mik" hole at grocery stores).

Contrast this with Toronto for example, where at one point they told us we could chuck all the recyclables into one bin, because the city bought fancy new gizmos with spectrometers that can sort the recyclable garbage automatically. That's beside the fact we had to separate organic garbage from the rest (b/c that went into a composter rather than a landfill).

On the other hand, here you don't have to separate the organic garbage, but must separate white, brown and green glass (what about blue or red? oh right, that goes in with the green, thus making the entire exercise essentially pointless). I guess it's some sort of continental germanic organizational mania. I heard there was a town in Germany where people had to sort out 37 types of garbage or something.
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

I always put out my paper in a large paper bag but tie it with string. The bin men always take it.

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Funny about the paper bag - I always put my cardboard in a paper bag (although I always tie up the bag in string so the stuff doesn't fly all over) and there are never any problems. Actually, I think my whole neighbourhood uses paper bags. However this is for cardboard - I rarely have enough paper to recycle on its own, so I just stuff whatever I have together with the cardboard. I did notice that when only the paper recycling day is, hardly anyone uses the paper bags.


Anyways, since everyone is ranting, just to notice that garbage collection in Zurich is extremely complicated for I would say no particular reason. Paper & cardboard are exclusively collected on the curb, and separately (why?). On the other hand, glass and metal are collected in the special dumpsters which are one per several streets, "ordinary" garbage is in dumpsters which are several per street, and - the best part of all - plastic is only at supermarkets (wtf!?) and apart from milk bottles, only PET! (despite the fact that 50% of plastic packaging is HDPE, which is btw the same plastic as the Swiss milk bottles - hence I always chuck (HD)PE stuff into the "Mik" hole at grocery stores).

Contrast this with Toronto for example, where at one point they told us we could chuck all the recyclables into one bin, because the city bought fancy new gizmos with spectrometers that can sort the recyclable garbage automatically. That's beside the fact we had to separate organic garbage from the rest (b/c that went into a composter rather than a landfill).

On the other hand, here you don't have to separate the organic garbage, but must separate white, brown and green glass (what about blue or red? oh right, that goes in with the green, thus making the entire exercise essentially pointless). I guess it's some sort of continental germanic organizational mania. I heard there was a town in Germany where people had to sort out 37 types of garbage or something.
Psst... what kind of taxes were you paying in Toronto for that kind of service..?

For me, I'd prefer to faff about with some string and sort my own recycling and have the extra cash left in my pocket for me to decide what to do with.
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here you don't have to separate the organic garbage, but must separate white, brown and green glass
Depends where 'here' is, here all glass goes together, all metals go together, all paper products go together, etc.

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They have one for paper and 2 for trash. I actually always recycle , no matter what the hassle. Always have so it s become a habit I guess
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Re: A Swiss thing or just odd behaviour?

Personally I live in a paperless house
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