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Ricardo Scam [watch out for scam artists sending fake emails]

Well I got a mail from a user on Ricardo( the mail was from Ricardo). Said he wanted me to cancel my add in Ricardo and that he would pay a very good price for the artikel-an iPod- and that I should give my bank details so he could pay me. Then I should send the iPod to Nigeria. He was very persistent. Well I knew it was a scam-reported it to Ricardo and they confirmed my suspicions and blocked the User.
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Old 12.07.2011, 10:35
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Re: Ricardo Scam

I got the same thing last night from this email [removed - name was "frank jones"] He contacted me and asked me for the price and after he replied back that he is willing to pay 2 times more to be sent to Africa. He asked for my paypal and when I gave him a bogus address he replied that he is having problem with paypal and I should give him my bank details so he can send me the money. I don't think so.

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I got the same thing last night from this email [removed] He contacted me and asked me for the price and after he replied back that he is willing to pay 2 times more to be sent to Africa. He asked for my paypal and when I gave him a bogus address he replied that he is having problem with paypal and I should give him my bank details so he can send me the money. I don't think so.
Well I'm not sure if they are just after your bank details or something else.What can they do just with bank details?
Report it to Ricardo.
When I first registered with Ricardo-alot of years ago-they sent me a letter by post and there I had to confirm my identity.
Not sure whether they still do that-as these scams indicate a problem somewhere in Ricardo organisation

The scam I got was also gmail.com address.

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Old 12.07.2011, 10:51
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Well I'm not sure if they are just after your bank details or something else.What can they do just with bank details?
Report it to Ricardo.
When I first registered with Ricardo-alot of years ago-they sent me a letter by post and there I had to confirm my identity.
Not sure whether they still do that-as these scams indicate a problem somewhere in Ricardo organisation

The scam I got was also gmail.com address.
My guess is that they are using Gmail so you can not do an IP search to find out where they are sending the email from. Gmail shows up as Google in California. Not very useful.
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Re: Ricardo Scam

Just wanted to confirm another similar case. The flow is following.
Scammer sends you a pm on Ricardo with a gmail address with request to provide the buy-now price for your item. When you do so, he writes back with some shitty texts, like:
- Wie lange haben Sie es gehört?
- Was ist Ihre tatsächliche Preis
- Ich liebe ein Schnäppchen

when you reply again answering that, he writes that he want to buy item really fast and asks you for your paypal account.

At this moment I have stopped as I ve realised that it is a scam. He send me one more message saying that he is extremly keen on to have the item and have own transportation company/courier(!) what was extremly funny in my case, as the item I was selling was kind of hand-made art which is does not weight at all. Just to point that it was not an iphone or camera or any of those stuff-types.
So I believe it has to be kind of bot.
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Re: Ricardo Scam

so whats the scam? can anyone explain what they can do with your bank details?
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Re: Ricardo Scam

well did you reply to him with every bad name you could call him? That gets them very upset
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Re: Ricardo Scam

Well I found this "Account takeover – This is when crooks take over your bank accounts. The person gets the information needed to convince the bank that they are you, and the bank gives them access to your money or line of credit. This can include all of the information associated with your account: account numbers, card numbers, passwords, PINs, security codes, social security numbers and other personal information."



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so whats the scam? can anyone explain what they can do with your bank details?
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Just wanted to confirm another similar case. The flow is following.
Scammer sends you a pm on Ricardo with a gmail address with request to provide the buy-now price for your item. When you do so, he writes back with some shitty texts, like:
- Wie lange haben Sie es gehört?
- Was ist Ihre tatsächliche Preis
- Ich liebe ein Schnäppchen

when you reply again answering that, he writes that he want to buy item really fast and asks you for your paypal account.

At this moment I have stopped as I ve realised that it is a scam. He send me one more message saying that he is extremly keen on to have the item and have own transportation company/courier(!) what was extremly funny in my case, as the item I was selling was kind of hand-made art which is does not weight at all. Just to point that it was not an iphone or camera or any of those stuff-types.
So I believe it has to be kind of bot.
If the button with white words on orange background "Frage beantworten " then I will reply.
Recently seems to be lots of messages with xxxx. g m a i l . c o m then the "Frage beantworten " does not work. I am not going to reply through my email.

As far as I am concerned I am selling something through Ricardo & agree to their rules. So far have been happy with both buying and selling ricardo in the normal way.

Have no idea how ricardo treats people who send messages with their gmail.com in a message, perhaps they ban then for a period of time or not?

The only difference is with selling a car & buyers wants to view first, the price is listed on ricardo and any further discussion is after potential buyers views car. Long time ago now, think we listed a phone number in the advert.

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Re: Ricardo Scam

As I said in my post they block such a user.What is with this "Jetzt reaktivieren" bit. Dont understand what you are talking about.
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If the button with white words on orange background "Jetzt reaktivieren" then I will reply.
Recently seems to be lots of messages with xxxx. g m a i l . c o m then the "Jetzt reaktivieren" does not work. I am not going to reply through my email.

As far as I am concerned I am selling something through Ricardo & agree to their rules. So far have been happy with both buying and selling ricardo in the normal way.

Have no idea how ricardo treats people who send messages with their gmail.com in a message, perhaps they ban then for a period of time or not?

The only difference is with selling a car & buyers wants to view first, the price is listed on ricardo and any further discussion is after potential buyers views car. Long time ago now, think we listed a phone number in the advert.
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As I said in my post they block such a user.What is with this "Jetzt reaktivieren" bit. Dont understand what you are talking about.

sorry wrong words should have read

"Frage beantworten"


amended my post above
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so whats the scam? can anyone explain what they can do with your bank details?
several options:

They want to get your bank details for identity theft, as described above.

They will send you proof of payment (fake) and the transport company will be waiting for the item. You give them the item, money never arrives.

They send you a proof of payment, but claim that they accidentally paid too much, and could you kindly return the rest by Paypal. Money never arrives.

They claim to have sent more money to also cover the transport company fees, could you kindly transfer that sum to the account of that company, so they can pick up the item tomorrow? They usually claim that Ebay/Ricardo/Paypal etc is holding the money until they get a delivery notification.

And yes, the items are often to be sent to Nigeria, and/or the buyer is working offshore, so cannot come see the item, but they really want it. Also, in their emails they usually never refer to the actual iPod/car/whatever you're selling, but write "I am really interested in this item".
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Re: Ricardo Scam

The scam is very simple actually, if it involves Paypal that is.


Paypal is very pro-buyer and if the buyer challenges anything in the transaction its very likely that they will get a refund with little hassle, leaving the seller hanging dry without payment and with the item shipped.



My father was selling a crane with latticed boom (up to 75m - 95 ton capacity - nice big machine) in a local Greek site and he got an email from someone in Nigeria that he's interested in the crane and that he would like to do a 5 figure transaction over Paypal and that he somehow would arrange to take the machine to Africa
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Re: Ricardo Scam

So just to be clear then, this is a scam, that happens on Ricardo?

Not a scam carried out by Ricardo - because that's how the thread title reads.
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So just to be clear then, this is a scam, that happens on Ricardo?

Not a scam carried out by Ricardo - because that's how the thread title reads.
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So just to be clear then, this is a scam, that happens on Ricardo?

Not a scam carried out by Ricardo - because that's how the thread title reads.
That's not at all how it reads, unless you haven't got a clue what ricardo is.

Similar scams are conducted across all major marketboards across the world and are referred to in the same format. "ebay scam", "craigslist scam", "kijiji scam" etc. There was even a murder conviction where the victims were lured by a job ad on craigslist. The case was referred to as "craigslist killers". I highly doubt anyone was dense enough to believe that it was in fact craigslist itself that was killing people.
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Re: Ricardo Scam [watch out for scam artists sending fake emails]

Another recent Ricardo scam.

A friend advertised her sofa on Ricardo. A buyer from England said he really wanted that couch and would even pay more for it, however, the seller needed to open a paypal account to make a payment for the transport. When she refused, the buyer sent her an email which showed she had indeed made such a payment and the FBI were after her.

Idiots.
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Re: Ricardo Scam [watch out for scam artists sending fake emails]

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Another recent Ricardo scam.

A friend advertised her sofa on Ricardo. A buyer from England said he really wanted that couch and would even pay more for it, however, the seller needed to open a paypal account to make a payment for the transport. When she refused, the buyer sent her an email which showed she had indeed made such a payment and the FBI were after her.

Idiots.
I'm not following this one at all, what?
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". I highly doubt anyone was dense enough to believe that it was in fact craigslist itself that was killing people.
Perhaps they died of boredom.

Craig must be making a killing.
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Re: Ricardo Scam [watch out for scam artists sending fake emails]

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Another recent Ricardo scam.

A friend advertised her sofa on Ricardo. A buyer from England said he really wanted that couch and would even pay more for it, however, the seller needed to open a paypal account to make a payment for the transport. When she refused, the buyer sent her an email which showed she had indeed made such a payment and the FBI were after her.

Idiots.
I had a very similar experience recently on Ricardo. I complained to Ricardo and just got an automated email respones; no clue if they took any action
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