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Old 29.07.2011, 01:47
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

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Is that all you can come up with- you are so slipping in my estimation- your facts are wrong Delaware is not on the OECD blacklist, Switzerland and Lichtenstein lost out.
aha, then what Delaware does must be okay then. What a relief.
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aha, then what Delaware does must be okay then. What a tax relief.
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Old 29.07.2011, 01:59
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Dun fix dat fo yo, ma man. Respec, Team YOU-ESS-AY!
Schon Guet!

This must be a joke right? How embarrasing

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How embarrasing
Not nearly as embarrassing as misspelling "embarrassing".
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Old 29.07.2011, 02:18
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Not nearly as embarrassing as misspelling "embarrassing".
Is that all you have a typo error? Scraping the barrel?
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Old 29.07.2011, 05:07
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Is that all you have a typo error? Scraping the barrel?
Well, I also have other things, but they involve tricky concepts such as "facts" and "arithmetic". Let's give it a try - it'll be hard for you, I know, but I'll try not to lose you; I'll use big, friendly, rounded numbers and keep it as simple as possible.

  • Fact 1: Over 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total are incorporated in Delaware.
  • Fact 2: The rate of corporate income tax in Delaware is equivalent to 0%.

Fairly straightforward so far, I hope you're still with me! Unfortunately, it now it starts to get complicated - hang on in there!

  • Fact 3: Combining Facts 1 and 2, we can pretty safely say that "The total corporate income tax levied on the 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total that are incorporated in Delaware comes to a grand total of $0.00.


Now we seem to go off at a tangent, but trust me, we'll come back to Fact 3 in a bit.

  • Fact 4: The Gross State Product of Delaware in 2010 was approximately $63,000 million.
  • Fact 5: Franchise taxes on Delaware corporations supply approximately one-fifth of the state's revenue.

Can you see where this one is going? Well done! That's right!

  • Fact 6: Combining Facts 4 and 5, we can say that all the companies incorporated in Delaware - being some 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total - paid a grand total in Franchise Taxes of approximately $13,000million.

Splendid - now we're cooking with gas! Not as difficult as you thought, eh?!?!? Here we get a bit sneaky, and combine facts that we established from other facts - Strange But True

  • Fact 7: Combining Facts 4 (see, I told you we'd come back to it!) and 6, we are now at liberty to state the following: The some 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total incorporated in Delaware, paid a grand total in taxes in 2010 of approximately ($13,00million + $0.0), i.e $13,000million.

Still with us? Excellent! Now, here comes the last bit, but don't panic. You've got this far, not much further to go...

  • Fact 8: Pinching part of Fact 1 again, and combining it with Fact 6, we now say that since the 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total incorporated in Delaware between them paid a total of $13,000million in taxes in 2010, then the average tax bill for companies incorporated in Delaware is ($13,000million / 900,000), which is approximately $15,000.

See, we got there!!!!!! Not as difficult as you thought, huh?



So now, when there's a lull in the conversation at your next dinner party, you can just casually drop in a line like

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"Did you realise that the average tax liability of the more than 900,000 companies incorporated in Delaware - which includes more than 50% of the US's quoted firms and 63% of the Fortune 500 - is about $15,000 per annum, which is about the cost of a three-year-old Ford Focus with 40,000 miles on the clock?"
If you really want to knock 'em for six, form an opinion about (say) Microsoft (being Delaware incorporated), basing your opinion on its annual profits of about $20billion and its tax liability ceiling of $180,000, then sally forth with said opinion too.

You could even put it up on Wikipedia then cut'n'paste it into EF for the rest of us to benefit from!
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Old 29.07.2011, 08:53
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I didn't say like royalty. I said differently, perhaps more equally, which is why I reiterate for the third time, my Swiss nationality is the first thing I state; I still have to qualify it though- Swiss name Swiss blood, which Kanton etc. Both statements I made earler are the same- I let them know that I am Swiss.
But when? Is this when you are being arrested, or presenting yourself to the authorities or if you are simply dropping items onto the belt at the cash desk in Migros. Do you think the cashier will think twice about short-changing you if she knows you're Swiss, with a Swiss passport, Swiss name and a whole Canton?

I bet everyone is really impressed.
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Old 29.07.2011, 10:09
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he is a man beholden to DC politics game playing, lobbyists and dirty politics...
And this makes him worth re-electing?

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Old 29.07.2011, 15:42
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I would prefer population densities rather...then Switzerland has the densest population figures I think.
Compared to where?

According to this, NL, B, UK, D, I and FL all have higher population density than CH!

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Compared to where?

According to this, NL, B, UK, D, I and FL all have higher population density than CH!

Tom
If you remove all the uninhabitable bits*, Switzerland has the same population density as Hong Kong.

Probably.

*mountains, lakes, Ticino
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Old 29.07.2011, 15:48
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If you remove all the uninhabitable bits*, Switzerland has the same population density as Hong Kong.

Probably.

*mountains, lakes, Ticino
I always believed the inhabitable part of Switzerland was roughly defined as the triangle that is east of Duttweilerbrücke, west of the number 10 tram route and north of Zürichhorn.
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Old 29.07.2011, 16:03
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

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Press it each time you want to respond to something she says, then keep reading her posts. When you've finished reading her drivel well-thought-out-and-informed posts, press Reply and all her posts will appear in your reply box to be edited and torn apart at your leisure.

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!! All posts gone during the amalgamation process....too tired to think of what I wrote...thank for the suggestion mate...lol.
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I always believed the inhabitable part of Switzerland was roughly defined as the triangle that is east of Duttweilerbrücke, west of the number 10 tram route and north of Zürichhorn.
No, it's the triangle called "Ticino"!

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Well, I also have other things, but they involve tricky concepts such as "facts" and "arithmetic". Let's give it a try - it'll be hard for you, I know, but I'll try not to lose you; I'll use big, friendly, rounded numbers and keep it as simple as possible.

  • Fact 1: Over 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total are incorporated in Delaware.
  • Fact 2: The rate of corporate income tax in Delaware is equivalent to 0%.

Fairly straightforward so far, I hope you're still with me! Unfortunately, it now it starts to get complicated - hang on in there!

  • Fact 3: Combining Facts 1 and 2, we can pretty safely say that "The total corporate income tax levied on the 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total that are incorporated in Delaware comes to a grand total of $0.00.


Now we seem to go off at a tangent, but trust me, we'll come back to Fact 3 in a bit.

  • Fact 4: The Gross State Product of Delaware in 2010 was approximately $63,000 million.
  • Fact 5: Franchise taxes on Delaware corporations supply approximately one-fifth of the state's revenue.

Can you see where this one is going? Well done! That's right!

  • Fact 6: Combining Facts 4 and 5, we can say that all the companies incorporated in Delaware - being some 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total - paid a grand total in Franchise Taxes of approximately $13,000million.

Splendid - now we're cooking with gas! Not as difficult as you thought, eh?!?!? Here we get a bit sneaky, and combine facts that we established from other facts - Strange But True

  • Fact 7: Combining Facts 4 (see, I told you we'd come back to it!) and 6, we are now at liberty to state the following: The some 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total incorporated in Delaware, paid a grand total in taxes in 2010 of approximately ($13,00million + $0.0), i.e $13,000million.

Still with us? Excellent! Now, here comes the last bit, but don't panic. You've got this far, not much further to go...

  • Fact 8: Pinching part of Fact 1 again, and combining it with Fact 6, we now say that since the 50% of the US's quoted firms (including 63% of the Fortune 500) and over 900,000 companies in total incorporated in Delaware between them paid a total of $13,000million in taxes in 2010, then the average tax bill for companies incorporated in Delaware is ($13,000million / 900,000), which is approximately $15,000.

See, we got there!!!!!! Not as difficult as you thought, huh?



So now, when there's a lull in the conversation at your next dinner party, you can just casually drop in a line like

If you really want to knock 'em for six, form an opinion about (say) Microsoft (being Delaware incorporated), basing your opinion on its annual profits of about $20billion and its tax liability ceiling of $180,000, then sally forth with said opinion too.

You could even put it up on Wikipedia then cut'n'paste it into EF for the rest of us to benefit from!
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I already disproved one on the original list in minutes, I don't have time or the inclination to go through the rest. But well done for apologizing and redoing the list.
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Old 29.07.2011, 18:33
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But when? Is this when you are being arrested, or presenting yourself to the authorities or if you are simply dropping items onto the belt at the cash desk in Migros. Do you think the cashier will think twice about short-changing you if she knows you're Swiss, with a Swiss passport, Swiss name and a whole Canton?

I bet everyone is really impressed.
I have never been arrested or presented my self to the authorities. I have also never been short-changed in Switzerland, because like many Swiss I mentally add the cost of the merchandise before approaching the cashier. I know how much I have to pay- now with the new phone ap it is even easier because you can just read the barcodes and plug in. Aren't you still asked the total of your bills at the Post Office?
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Press it each time you want to respond to something she says, then keep reading her posts. When you've finished reading her drivel well-thought-out-and-informed posts, press Reply and all her posts will appear in your reply box to be edited and torn apart at your leisure.

You know DB you really have a fascination with me don't you? A bit like Shorrock. I can really pi$$ some people off can't I? I just have to say one word like Northerner. If I write is of no relevance, complete drivel and boring- just ignore it. This thread has become a little boring- threads usually do when I leave them. I have to clean my fridge, make taco stuff for lunch, drive into town and hopefully drive through the Adirondacks and dine on the lake watching the sunset. You know it really would be a good idea to come up with some original thought than relying on me to supply the entertainment. Actually that's one of the reasons I left- boring......unless you have bags and bags of money, unlike many I can't resort to drink or drugs so that option is out. Even the guys aren't that sexy enough for an affair. Do I really have to return?
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

Wow, so at this stage...
Question: How does the crime rate in Switzerland compare to England?
Answer 1: Well, that depends on if you live in America or not....
Answer 2: It is a blatant lie that there is no crime in Swtizerland at all.
Answer 3: Statistics have been used to blind us all from the reality of the very high crime rates in Switzerland, especially to do with banking for foreign nationals and drugs.
Answer 4: I don't have time to answer the question, we should just have a rant.

Generally though, I will stick with the fact that if you look at the statistics for both countries, the figures for crime are higher in the UK on general than in Switzerland....sometime significantly.
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I don't have time or the inclination to go through the rest.
For somebody who likes to post massive Wikipedia quotes and no end to Youtube movies rather than coming to the point and explaining your argument (if indeed you have one) in a concise way, that's a refreshing statement.
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dine on the lake watching the sunset
Which lake, George or Champlain?

Meanwhile, I also have to make stuff for tacos and such (including the tortillas), but that's for 1st August, so plenty of time. Alas, we'll be eating them above the lake (Ceresio), not on it, but my friend has a great view!

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