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How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

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I would like to know your opinion about crime in the Switzerland compare to England?

How is it comparing to England?

I have a notion that England is completely disorganized country and police does not do good job compare to USA (for exemple). I don’t know the reason. May be it is because of low funding or some other reasons. For example every night I wake up because of some drunk screams and I don’t live in bad area. Rate of crime is very high too. Every night the city fool of drunk jerks. A lot of fights, stabbing ....

Look what I read on the other forum (I am completely agreed with this person). I don’t know if I can post the link toanother forum here, but there are most of people have the same opinion.

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I left the UK 5 years ago and in all honesty, I havenever looked back, or regretted that decision one bit. In fact, I have not evenbeen back to visit the UK and it would not bother me if I never went backagain.
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One of the main reasons why I don’t miss the UK is the fact that Britishsociety as a whole is seriously ill. Anti-social behavior is out of control,gangs of drunken and drugged up youths basically rule the streets of prettymuch all British towns and cities. They walk the streets, vandalizing anythingthey see, harassing anyone they see, committing acts of violence, intimidationand even murder. If you think that I’m talking out of my backside, I suggestyou simply Google the words “British justice”, “yobs”, “murder” and “chavs” andyou’ll find hundreds of articles in relation to young British criminalsliterally getting away with murdering innocent people.

I laugh when other British people talk about how “bad” the United States is, interms of crime. I always tell people that I feel 1,000,000 times safer herethan I ever did in the UK, and that’s the truth. Generally, American cops don’ttolerate nonsense from people in general when it comes to anti-social behavior.There are no ASBO’s (Anti Social Behavior Orders) here – just JAIL and cops whowon’t take any nonsense.

British justice (or British injustice) is a joke. It favors the criminal prettymuch every time, not the victim. Many years ago, there was a case where afarmer in Norfolk was sent to jail for shooting two teenage scumbags who brokeinto his farm – pathetic. Over here, you have the RIGHT to defend your home,your family, your property.

I often check the UK news online and I read countless stories of innocentpeople being beaten to death by gangs of youths and despite the fact that I amfar away from that god-forsaken island, it still pains me to think of the sheerinjustice.

If you speak out against this crap in the UK, you are labeled a “Conservative”.You are somehow, supposed to feel sorry for these pathetic pieces of crap whocarry out these despicable acts. Most of them don’t work – they scroungewelfare. Would I sound too harsh if I said that most of them should simply be“put down”, like rabid animals?

But Britain is a country that won’t even arm its police with firearms, despitethe fact that gun crime has been on the increase for years. Instead, theychoose to deny that the problem exists….let the bobby’s on sticks prevail,while dangerous gangsters are armed with the latest weapons.

When I lived in the UK, I was so tired of the political correctness – feelingthat as a nation, we were being forced to bend over backwards for scum…scum whorefused to work and chose to scrounge off the state instead, or scum who woulddo nothing but engage in acts of anti-social behavior. I suffered from majoranxiety, because like many people, I was literally afraid to go out. Now, I amfar more active....I feel much safer here. Even in Miami (which has a bad repfor crime, apparently!), I feel safer than I ever did in the UK. No one messeswith you here and people seem to have a lot more respect for one another (andthe law).

Just tale a trip down any British High Street on a Friday or Saturday night (orany night, actually) and you'll see dozens of drunken brawls and people (guysAND girls) making complete a--sses of themselves in public, boozing, boozing,puking, fighting and boozing some more....such is British culture these days.

The United States does indeed have a serious problem with gun crime, but I canhonestly tell you that aside from the “bad” areas, the streets are 1,000 timessafer over here. You simply don’t see groups of youths congregating everywhere,causing trouble and harassing innocent people.

Britain needs to pull its head out of it’s you know what and crack down oncrime. It’s negatively affecting the quality of life for too many law-abidingcitizens, and it’s about time people took a stand and said “enough is enough”.Even if it means abandoning left-wing values for a short time, just do it. Votefor any party that promises to crack down on crime, because Britain would be agood place to live without the chav-scum.

On top of that, you have the likes of Pete Doherty getting away with feedingcrack cocaine to a kitten, or Chris Langham, who was given a pathetic 10 monthsentence for downloading child porn. It just goes to show how ridiculouslylenient British justice has become.

Until things change for the better, I will never return to the UK and I wouldnot recommend moving to the UK to anyone, unless that person happened to be aglutton for punishment. Don't listen to any Brits bashing other countries fortheir levels of crime....at least other countries don't suffer the same levelsof anti-social behavior as the UK does


My question: is Switzerland has the same problems?
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Old 22.07.2011, 18:56
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

There is no crime in CH because it's not allowed, so the police look for Jay walkers & people who dont throw their rubbish away properly otherwise they would have nothing to do and might be made redundant.
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

I'm hiding under my bed as I type this. I've never seen the police out of their cars or off of their motorcycles.
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

Somebody mentioned the "Crime" word !?! Isn't it illegal to say that word in Switzerland ?

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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

It's different. In Switzerland crime does pay.
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Look what I read on the other forum (I am completely agreed with this person). I don’t know if I can post the link toanother forum here, but there are most of people have the same opinion.
I'm sure it'll be fine but do you think you could ask them to make better use of their spacebars before you do it?
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

Ive not robbed anyone for at-least 6 weeks.... Thats gonna help the statistics a great deal.
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I'm hiding under my bed as I type this. I've never seen the police out of their cars or off of their motorcycles.
So true...except for one occasion, outside Manor in Viganello. He was almost certainly the oldest police officer in the world, and was supported by a zimmerframe.
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

OK, the UK has it's problem with anti social issues, I'll give you that. What it doesn't have is comparable murder rate to the US.

No one in their right mind could compare crime rates in the US to the UK - would we do this to France and the UK, or Sweden? Nope, the reason, language.

In certain states in the US it is legal to have a 50mm + machine gun mounted on your vehicle - um why on earth would you want to do that?

Yes, I agree that the anti social problem in the UK is a massive problem and one where I don't think that anyone knows really where to start, but I for one wouldn't have a clue as to say what you do about it.

Certain parts of the UK have a big gun crime issue, which is why in these areas the police do carry weapons, but, and here is a good one for our cousins over the pond, every bullet which is discharged from a police weapon will be tracked and the positioning placed.

I've only just left the UK but I would hate to see the police reguallry armed and have the shot first and ask questions later option that the US have.

Couple of quick questions - how many US police officers have been shot by their own weapon, how many innocent bystanders have been shot by US police officers? I don't know BUT the fact that the police are armed means the bad guys get a bigger gun! Simples

Arming the police is really really really stupid, it means that the criminal classes just get bigger guns - and that my op, is actually why the issue the UK has is with drunk teenagers and not drive bys, shootings and generally no go areas.
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

mmm I find that unarmed police loses much of its "scare and respect"factor
They could simply do it like here where permits are needed for guns (which I believe they are trying to do in the USA also. Police here carries guns and I think they should continue to do so....nothing worse than going on call and the person standing in front of you does have a gun and you as an officer are standing there armed with.......words....I think here they could be much more aggressive here. I have seen them several times getting out the way of a fight and stand by...
Same in Belgium, the police has no respect what so ever and thugs are taking over. But what do you expect if part of their unifor is pants that are way to big, a stupid ass looking baseball hat and no height/seize requirements any longer.
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OK, the UK has it's problem with anti social issues, I'll give you that. What it doesn't have is comparable murder rate to the US.

No one in their right mind could compare crime rates in the US to the UK - would we do this to France and the UK, or Sweden? Nope, the reason, language.

In certain states in the US it is legal to have a 50mm + machine gun mounted on your vehicle - um why on earth would you want to do that?

Yes, I agree that the anti social problem in the UK is a massive problem and one where I don't think that anyone knows really where to start, but I for one wouldn't have a clue as to say what you do about it.

Certain parts of the UK have a big gun crime issue, which is why in these areas the police do carry weapons, but, and here is a good one for our cousins over the pond, every bullet which is discharged from a police weapon will be tracked and the positioning placed.

I've only just left the UK but I would hate to see the police reguallry armed and have the shot first and ask questions later option that the US have.

Couple of quick questions - how many US police officers have been shot by their own weapon, how many innocent bystanders have been shot by US police officers? I don't know BUT the fact that the police are armed means the bad guys get a bigger gun! Simples

Arming the police is really really really stupid, it means that the criminal classes just get bigger guns - and that my op, is actually why the issue the UK has is with drunk teenagers and not drive bys, shootings and generally no go areas.
I Din`t know that
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

It's just that sometimes unarmed police can still get respect first and if not get scary later. Being armed they can lose that respect, and that can lead to mayhem.
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It's just that sometimes unarmed police can still get respect first and if not get scary later. Being armed they can lose that respect, and that can lead to mayhem.
good point but I dont think many police officers are gonna get scary with a gun or knife pointed at them and noting in return. I do agree US cops overuse severely their right to shoot.


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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

hey, 50mm is for hunting. Dick Cheney finds it a suitable caliber for his weekend quale hunts.
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

I fully agree with the comments re unarmed police - but with the places which don't arm the police the gun crime is relatively low, and more importantly the crims don't just start shooting at the police!

If you are a low crim, and you have a gun and a police office confronts you and says 'Put the weapon down' you are more likely to do it - knowing that you may get hit around a bit, but NOT KILLED if he/she decides you are resisting arrest?
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I fully agree with the comments re unarmed police - but with the places which don't arm the police the gun crime is relatively low, and more importantly the crims don't just start shooting at the police!

If you are a low crim, and you have a gun and a police office confronts you and says 'Put the weapon down' you are more likely to do it - knowing that you may get hit around a bit, but NOT KILLED if he/she decides you are resisting arrest?
really???I never come across it nor have I ever done it (and hopefully never will) but wouldnt you agree that the officer would be much less confident (overconfident in some situations) if he was faced with that situation. knowing that you have to possibility to defend yourself or completely leave your fate in the hands of a criminal....Id rather defend myself IMHO
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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

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really???I never come across it nor have I ever done it (and hopefully never will) but wouldnt you agree that the officer would be much less confident (overconfident in some situations) if he was faced with that situation. knowing that you have to possibility to defend yourself or completely leave your fate in the hands of a criminal....Id rather defend myself IMHO
In the UK, if firearms are involved and there are only unarmed police in the area, they have to call in the armed units which are normally on the scene within minutes.

Armed bobbies on the beat are not necessary in most areas of the UK.

I think the OP had stumbled on a BNP forum...
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Armed bobbies on the beat are not necessary in most areas of the UK.

I think the OP had stumbled on a BNP forum...
Isnt that how that guy that shot several people lately in the UK got away with it. cause thy couldnt get involved?

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Re: How is the crime rate in the Switzerland compare to England?

Switzerland is awash with guns (hell I got two semi automatic army rifles in the next room), breaking in or just pissing someone off in CH is a very, very bad idea.

Hence: no crime

More seriously, I know it can be annoying and people have complained about it here on the forum but people in CH have no
qualms about commenting when you do something which is socially not acceptable. In many european countries people are
careful to say something when they see something 'cause you might get beat up or something, not here though. If you cross
as a pedestrian during a red light chances are people are going to make disapproving noises.

Plus, the language of course. German (and all its variations) is excellent for shouting at someone and to make them feel humble
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