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Old 27.07.2011, 13:40
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

I feel vaguely guilty when eating horse meet - I'm eating Dobbin! So I won't choose to eat it. But if served it, I'd eat it.

Donkey is a component of some salamis.

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...I'm a vegetarian on moral grounds, I'll only eat something nowadays that I'd kill myself, and as there's no way I'd go and kill a pig or calf, so I don't eat them...
I've the same moral grounds. But I would kill a pig of calf if I had to. I'd rather pay someone else to do it though. Same as I prefer to pay someone else to empty my cess pit.

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...The reason why we don't eat human being is also because of feelings (that's just nasty). ...
It's also a very good way of picking up all sorts of nasty diseases.
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Old 27.07.2011, 13:53
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

re: eating bear, cat, dog, lion, crocodile, etc....

There's one reason in particular that it bothers me (and why I stick to eating herbivores -- although with fish it's harder to do, but it's why I don't eat salmon, tuna, swordfish, shark, etc)


Biomagnification

What does this have to do with horse meat? Nothing directly. But since we diverged into the lip-smacking goodness of bear meat, I thought I'd bring it up.

It also has bearing (haha) on supplementing animal feeds with animal-derived proteins.
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Old 27.07.2011, 13:56
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The reason why we don't eat human being is also because of feelings (that's just nasty).
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... ours, but enjoy eating other peoples!
As long as it is not people aka Soylent Green.

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The reason we don't eat whales is because of feelings (it would be a pity if they went extinct).
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Actually, I eat whale almost every time I go to Norway!
I do not eat whale as I think it is unhealthy. A big animal that has to filter a lot of polluted sea water or eat a lot of fish will acquire quit a lot of mercury, DDT, PCBs etc. But as it is not sold in the Migros and only in Norwegian Coops it should not be that much of a problem. Same goes actually for Shark and Tuna. But the latter is very yummy and to readily available.



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I still have quite a bit of veal in my freezer, raised by my great neighbour and farmer, and killed locally. I won't touch veal normally.
You understand that veal meat is a by product of the milk industry. To get the most milk from a cow it has to have a calf now and then.

Calves and Lambs are actually very, very cute and nice to touch. But so are their grown counter parts Cow/Bull and Sheep. Actually as cute as the Horse.

So my points in eating meat (no particular order) :
Not endangered.
Safe to eat. (Pollution, Germs, etc)
Not a carnivore. (Exception for fishes)
Raised, transported and slaughtered animally/humanly.
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Old 27.07.2011, 13:57
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

While still on subject...the last time when I was in Paris I ate *cough* sharkfin dumpling *cough*cough*....
How socially acceptable is that nowadays?
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Old 27.07.2011, 13:58
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

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I think he was attempting a word play zymogen.

You said the horse was your friend....he was asking when u had him over at your place for dinner.
Last time I had one over for dinner he didn't say much. I think he had a horse throat.
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Old 27.07.2011, 14:00
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While still on subject...the last time when I was in Paris I ate *cough* sharkfin dumpling *cough*cough*....
How socially acceptable is that?
Going to Paris is not at all acceptable. Be ashamed of yourself and go and stand in the corner.

In case you hadn't noticed, the people there are a bit, uh, how shall I put it ... French you know.
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re: eating bear, cat, dog, lion, crocodile, etc....

There's one reason in particular that it bothers me (and why I stick to eating herbivores -- although with fish it's harder to do, but it's why I don't eat salmon, tuna, swordfish, shark, etc)

Biomagnification
Most bears are omnivores. Most of the bear species have a mainly vegetarian diet, up to 100% as the Panda. On the other hand a polar bear has a nearly 100% carnivore diet.
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

I out of principle do not eat horse, dog, cat meat. But would not go as far as declare it immoral. It simply is revolting to me.

I could also not so easily eat the meat of an animal I had been on good and personal terms with before.

But I would witout hesitation eat the meat of bears or crocodiles or rhinos. I only have to admit that I do not have the slightest idea who that meat tastes
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Old 27.07.2011, 14:07
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Most bears are omnivores. Most of the bear species have a mainly vegetarian diet, up to 100% as the Panda. On the other hand a polar bear has a nearly 100% carnivore diet.
Point. I'm still not eating it though.
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Old 27.07.2011, 14:07
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While still on subject...the last time when I was in Paris I ate *cough* sharkfin dumpling *cough*cough*....
How socially acceptable is that nowadays?
Next time go to La Tour d'Argent and order pressed duck. Or even better order Ortolan, it is so socially unacceptable that you cover your head with a napkin so that not even God can see your moral corruptness.

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Old 27.07.2011, 14:08
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I out of principle do not eat horse, dog, cat meat. But would not go as far as declare it immoral. It simply is revolting to me.

I could also not so easily eat the meat of an animal I had been on good and personal terms with before.

But I would witout hesitation eat the meat of bears or crocodiles or rhinos. I only have to admit that I do not have the slightest idea who that meat tastes
bears taste like dog I think, or at least that's waht an earlier poster has claimed.
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Safe to eat. (Pollution, Germs, etc)
Not a carnivore. (Exception for fishes)
I guess then you don't eat Pangasius, shrimp, watercress, spinach, or indeed anything that has sprang in this world and hasn't gone under a chlorine solution? Whale is not less safe to eat than salmon, tuna or good old cow. Mercury poisoning by ingestion of fish takes a looooooooooooooot of "contaminated" fish. Not thinking about eating the whole whale, are you?

Omnivore is ok for you? Coz those ones also eat meat... I just had a really good omnivore cordon blue in Migros today...


On a serious note, I am all in for a humanly slaughtering. The way most animals are transported between farm-slaughter house are indeed frightening.
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Old 27.07.2011, 14:31
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I guess then you don't eat Pangasius, shrimp, watercress, spinach, or indeed anything that has sprang in this world and hasn't gone under a chlorine solution? Whale is not less safe to eat than salmon, tuna or good old cow. Mercury poisoning by ingestion of fish takes a looooooooooooooot of "contaminated" fish. Not thinking about eating the whole whale, are you?

Omnivore is ok for you? Coz those ones also eat meat... I just had a really good omnivore cordon blue in Migros today...
Omnivore is ok. Specially the other white meat next to unicorn. Pangasius? Nope, have you ever seen one tail and head on? Shrimps, only north Atlantic cold water. About the whole whale, I was thinking about roasting it over a fire on a stick. Heard the giblets are quite tasty.
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Old 27.07.2011, 14:47
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

I did the same thing as Lost_inbroad...was it these people, OP? It's an organization promoting the benefits of a vegetarian lifestyle. Note the top of the page I linked says the pictures might be gruesome to some.

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Somewhere we ran across an organization that was handing out leaflets discouraging the sale of horse meat and the slaughter of horses for meat in Switzerland. Can anyone help me find it again? Thanks.
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OP, I've googled for an organization that works against the sale of horses as meat. Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything on it. There are a few websites that are mainly focused abroad (i.e Spain). Maybe you should head back to the area where they were handing out the leaflet to see, whether they're still around.
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Old 27.07.2011, 14:51
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

My first horse meat was a horse I knew....his name was Antonio and he broke his leg. He had to be shot to end his suffering and rather than waste the meat his owner gave it away.
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My first horse meat was a horse I knew....his name was Antonio and he broke his leg. He had to be shot to end his suffering and rather than waste the meat his owner gave it away.
That seems practical to me. The raising of horses as livestock for consumption, however, just boggles my mind.
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My first horse meat was a horse I knew....his name was Antonio and he broke his leg. He had to be shot to end his suffering and rather than waste the meat his owner gave it away.
I have to say that imagining myself in front of the steak, while someone says grace "Thank you, Antonio, for this gift" is slightly... disturbing. Might be that the fact you knew the name of the horse, and the horse was named like a human is making the whole film inside my head even more creepy...

I'm with KeinFranzösisch... I do believe it is a good thing the meat did not go to waste, but I really couldn't have eaten it.
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While still on subject...the last time when I was in Paris I ate *cough* sharkfin dumpling *cough*cough*....
How socially acceptable is that nowadays?
Probably marginally less socially acceptable than cracking Amy Winehouse jokes.

Just saying..
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

We had pet goats when I was a kid. We ended up eating some of them. I used to bleat at the meat in the freezer, apparently



(hang on, "bleating at the meat"? shurely shome mishtake)
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Re: Organization that works against the sale of horses as meat?

Apparently there are certain tribes which eat monkeys---however the offspring of the eaten monkeys are then adopted as members of the family going as faras tribe women actually breast feeding these adopted monkies, after eating their parents.

Really hits the point of respecting nature, while supplying the required sustenance.
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