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Old 22.08.2011, 18:53
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Thanks!. My kids are young. I have talked to specialists and they assured me that they can learn the language fast! MY wife wants also to live Italy immediately. I think that we will be better in Zurich... we will see...

thanks for the answers anyway.
I agree, you will be much better off here than in Italy. But it is pretty easy for a trailing spouse to feel very isolated here...and an unhappy spouse can make an unhappy family.

btw, I like the advice about living out in a village, just because I'm a smaller town kind of person (plus, it's cheaper). But live where it fits you and your family. Check out the threads here, there is plenty of info.
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Old 22.08.2011, 18:57
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

It is a very good salary! you will be fine. the following will give you some idea.

1. Monthly Rent - 2500
2. Insurance - 800 or 900 for all 4 of you
3. Grocery - 1000 (about 250 per week!)
4. Internet, electric, tv, mobile etc - 250
5. Travel pass - 200

Wherever you choose to leave, your salary will bring you netto of 10000 chf a month. With the basics covered for 5000 chf you will have another 5000 chf to play with! Grab the offer!!
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:04
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

Try also villages along the S5 route, though always check whether your property is too noisy or not due to airport vicinity = Glattbrugg, Ruemlang, Oberglatt, even Niederhasli and Niederglatt but not further. You are very lucky to be offered that sort of money.
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

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Thanks Bigblue 2.
I will have 1 month a flat free from the company, so I will have plenty of time to look for an apartment. which other places do you recommend within the s-bahn net?
Altstetten isn't a bad place to live. It's close to forest and farms for the kids to go roaming, but close to trains too.

Wipkingen is a trendy place to live with a train line. Some nice apartments there.

I think the new apartments in Oerlikon are okay to live in. The ones near Max-Bill-Platz (sp?). A friend of ours lives there and loves it (admittedly, she doesn't have kids).

The salary you've been offered is well and truly enough to live on. You may think of buying rather than renting though. Mortgage rates are really low here if you have the deposit.
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ps I work in oerlikon, the new bit it ok,
while the old part is far better, also for children.
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:12
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I will have 1 month a flat free from the company, so I will have plenty of time to look for an apartment.
I wasn't just being 'nasty' when I suggested you look at threads on here. Finding accomodation is really NOT easy and you can strike lucky, or you can look for ages for the sort of place you'd fancy living in. Check out the Housing Stickies - there's one here with quite a few ideas on how to get the contract for the flat which you set your heart on. Landlords can pick and choose - and they do.
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:12
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

Oerlikon is definitely fine to live.
Don't just concentrate on the central or new bit but take a look up North the Seebach way. Some very nice places there, and still within walking distance of the Bombardier offices. You're also very close to the forest and several schools so your children will be fine.
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:12
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It is a very good salary! you will be fine. the following will give you some idea.

1. Monthly Rent - 2500
2. Insurance - 800 or 900 for all 4 of you
3. Grocery - 1000 (about 250 per week!)
4. Internet, electric, tv, mobile etc - 250
5. Travel pass - 200

Wherever you choose to leave, your salary will bring you netto of 10000 chf a month. With the basics covered for 5000 chf you will have another 5000 chf to play with! Grab the offer!!
Can you really do grocery on 1000 for the month? We have been here about 10 days and find that we spend about 100 - 140 CHF every 2 days and we aren't buying anything fancy. Have had homemade pizza a couple times, spag with meat sauce a couple times (and not a lot of meat ) etc. I am hoping that I will figure out the system and score the deals (did get some buy 1 get 1 free ones last week at the coop). But I am wondering if 2000 a month will be enough for our family of 5 (but really, those little kids don't eat a ton, yet).

So fellow EFers, is 1000 a month valid for a family?
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:17
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OK guys - Take a deep breath and calm down everyone. It's been a long hot day...

Thanos073 - Have a little peep at the relevant Threads in here before too many members accuse you of not having done your homework...

...and Welcome to the Forum.
Apart from the predictable rules, you should have a sticky on "Read this if you want to avoid upsetting the natives"....sort of a "Ten Commandments" thread
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:21
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So fellow EFers, is 1000 a month valid for a family?
For grocery yes. We spend 200 CHF a week. But we prepare all our food & meals. We don't buy prepared food, even pizza is done at home.
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:24
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Can you really do grocery on 1000 for the month? We have been here about 10 days and find that we spend about 100 - 140 CHF every 2 days and we aren't buying anything fancy.
Maybe will settle down a bit when the cupboards are stocked.....?
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Oerlikon is definitely fine to live.
Don't just concentrate on the central or new bit but take a look up North the Seebach way.
The really nice parts of Oerlikon are the Allenmoos quarter and the part between Dörflistrasse, Tramstrasse and Winterthurerstrasse (which also has an Italian church in the middle, if that is of interest).
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

Well I see a lot of mixed emotions and answers and here is my opinion.
I moved here from South Carolina, USA in 2007 and I believe 155.000 would be adequate and here is how. You will also get 200 per child per month.

155.000 would mean approximately 11000 per month take home after taxes
Housing to be outside Zurich 1800 - 2500/month including parking and misc. cost
Health insurance 800/month
New Car lease 1000/month
New Car insurance 200/month
Rental insurance 50/month
School, no cost as it would be public schools
Maximum for car gas 300/month
Electricity and heat 150/month
Billag - licence for TV and radio approximate 150/month maximum
I may have missed some other expenses so let's say your expenses will be approximately CHF 6000/month
Groceries let's say CHF 2000/month if you go to Germany while living in Baden/Wettingen you will save on grocery as well.
Then you will have another 3000 /month that you may use for part vacation and part savings.

In my opinion it is doable. Best of luck
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I suppose if you manage to only eat lentils on workdays and get around on a secondhand bicycle then you might just scrape by on 155.000.-
Oops...
How am I living in Zürich with approximately the same salary and with the family for 2 years? Am I doing something wrong?
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How am I living in Zürich with approximately the same salary and with the family for 2 years? Am I doing something wrong?
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:52
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Well I see a lot of mixed emotions and answers and here is my opinion.
I moved here from South Carolina, USA in 2007 and I believe 155.000 would be adequate and here is how. You will also get 200 per child per month.

155.000 would mean approximately 11000 per month take home after taxes
Housing to be outside Zurich 1800 - 2500/month including parking and misc. cost
Health insurance 800/month
New Car lease 1000/month
New Car insurance 200/month
Rental insurance 50/month
School, no cost as it would be public schools
Maximum for car gas 300/month
Electricity and heat 150/month
Billag - licence for TV and radio approximate 150/month maximum
I may have missed some other expenses so let's say your expenses will be approximately CHF 6000/month
Groceries let's say CHF 2000/month if you go to Germany while living in Baden/Wettingen you will save on grocery as well.
Then you will have another 3000 /month that you may use for part vacation and part savings.

In my opinion it is doable. Best of luck
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Hi,

Petrol is expensive even as a single person I spend 600 a month, then I drive quite a lot 800-1000km a week.
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Old 22.08.2011, 19:54
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Thanks for the answers guys. The issue is crucial though!
At the moment I live in Italy and things are pretty rough here!!!
So I am thinking about moving in Zurich.
I will rent a flat in Oerlikon or Hoengg. Lifestyle normal, kids at public school...
Ok, so make an educated guess: 140k EUR. Is that a lot?

Are you seriously wondering if you could live a normal lifestyle on this budget? I'd guess you will be within the top 10% earners of Oerlikon. You will not afford a private jet or yacht in lake Zurich, but yes, it is definitely enough for four.
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I hope you mean per month not per year
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Am I doing something wrong?
You've been paying your Luftsteuer, I presume?

Otherwise that'll sting when they catch up with you...
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you only can eat pop corn with that salary
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