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Old 22.08.2011, 21:04
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

It's a good salary and certainly enough to live on based on what we know of your circumstances.

Don't know which part of Italy you are in - however you will find things like eating out are far more expensive here for nowhere near comparable quality. Also the lifestyle is a little different.

As to where to live, public transport connections are excellent so you don't have to live next door to work.

As for your kids - they are still at ages where they could learn the local language quickly. Are they bilingual already?

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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

I would either negotiate a better annual salary or ask the company to pay for your accommodation. Switzerland is a fantastic place to live if you have money
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Old 22.08.2011, 21:21
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

To work for Bombardier, I would ask a lot more for Senior Engineering Manager, but that's just my opinion.

If you want to live a comfortable happy life enjoying the things that Zuich has to offer, I would consider it a bit low.

Again, just my opinion
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Old 22.08.2011, 21:27
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

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Thanks for the answers guys. The issue is crucial though!
At the moment I live in Italy and things are pretty rough here!!!
So I am thinking about moving in Zurich.
I will rent a flat in Oerlikon or Hoengg. Lifestyle normal, kids at public school...
Look, the answers you got in the beginning are basically an automatic reflex we have when new Efers, dont bother reading some threads we already have regarding your basic questions. This is an expat community, do you really think after so many thousands of members, that question hasnt been already answered? How did you find the forum? the basic answer to that is search engine asking something about switzerland, why not dig a bit dipper in the forum before asking?
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Thanks Bigblue 2.
I will have 1 month a flat free from the company, so I will have plenty of time to look for an apartment. which other places do you recommend within the s-bahn net?
Well I was going to say its wrong thinking, but actually that is correct, with that salary your application will be in the top 3. But please read the housing section, theres people who takes months before finding something. Wish you the best of lucks in your search. BTW Treverus is leaving his apartment and I saw the pics, are very nice. with that salary im sure you can afford it. check here the ad
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Can you really do grocery on 1000 for the month? We have been here about 10 days and find that we spend about 100 - 140 CHF every 2 days and we aren't buying anything fancy. Have had homemade pizza a couple times, spag with meat sauce a couple times (and not a lot of meat ) etc. I am hoping that I will figure out the system and score the deals (did get some buy 1 get 1 free ones last week at the coop). But I am wondering if 2000 a month will be enough for our family of 5 (but really, those little kids don't eat a ton, yet).

So fellow EFers, is 1000 a month valid for a family?
Yes,
Dont go always to Coop and Migro. try other stores like Aldi, Lidl, Denner. I like a lot the products, sometimes you pay more because of the brand name that because of higher quality. When is about pesto, pasta, detergent, toilet paper and stuff like that I normally go to Aldi. Coop I use it for meat and vegetables only and Denner cold meat for sandwich, salami, bread, cheese etc. There are some plazas that has all in one I used to go to Glattzentrum and there is Migros and Denner, parking is free. Now I live by Altstetten and go to Letzipak there is Coop, Denner and an Aldi in the next building parking in letzipark is 2 or 3 hours free.

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How am I living in Zürich with approximately the same salary and with the family for 2 years? Am I doing something wrong?
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Old 22.08.2011, 21:34
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

hi thanos,

this is a very good salary. of course it depends what kind of lifestyle one has, but still. it is a very good salary.

what are your other options currently? if you don't want to stay in italy (and assuming you don't really want to go to greece at the moment ) why not grab such a good chance? if the work interests you, of course, and if your wife is fine with it.
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Old 22.08.2011, 21:38
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

Hi,
This salary is quite good. I don't know what they all think about Zurich. Sure you can live from 155000CHF! No problem.

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Old 22.08.2011, 21:44
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

We all know really. However, when you, too, have answered 254 questions on the subject from new members who haven't (yet) taken the trouble to look at the Threads already on here, you'll have a bit more understanding for the rather terse replies and facetious comments on this thread.
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Old 22.08.2011, 21:50
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I would either negotiate a better annual salary or ask the company to pay for your accommodation. Switzerland is a fantastic place to live if you have money
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Old 22.08.2011, 21:57
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

would be fine if not sending kids to private school.
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Old 22.08.2011, 22:04
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

thanos073 welcome to the forum. Yes 155K is good salary. Children of 4 & 6 will soon pick up the language, not sure what languages you, your wife and children already have, but presume if you live in Italy, then you have Italian.
Your relocation package hope they allow you to take a lot of stuff with you, as many items here can seem expensive, even things like like Towels and basic items you use in the kitchen.
Once here will take you & your wife sometime to work out the prices of groceries in different shops and adjusting your diet accordingly.
Just one thing if you are renting appartment, then it is normal to have shared facility for washing machine, check out when you are looking for somewhere to rent, the availability of the washing area, i.e. the washing machine, as have noticed on this forum sometimes restricted to set times.
Switzerland from what I have seen, someone without children, is a good place for Children.
Also dont know if 1 month is enough time for the relocation package, will they stretch to 2 months. just a thought if they might offer that if necessary
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Old 22.08.2011, 22:07
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

You will be perfectly fine. This question is sort of a running joke on EF. That's the reason for some answers on your thread.

Höngg is by the way better than Oerlikon. It's nicer for families. I would go for Höngg - if you can find something, that is.

I grew up in Zurich and Oerlikon was never considered a place for families.
Sounds a bit arrogant, but that how it is. It's ok when you're single, but with a family one has to think a bit further.

Good luck with your move and new job.
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Old 22.08.2011, 22:08
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

I think that there was once a user survey...did it cover pay levels?

If so, might be good data to publish to allow people to see the ranges, averages etc
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Old 22.08.2011, 22:10
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

I think it is a very good wage, especially if you leave out private school and are happy to live in a flat rather than a house
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Old 22.08.2011, 22:26
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I think it is a very good wage, especially if you leave out private school and are happy to live in a flat rather than a house
But everybody knows only poor people live in flats, yes stacking the workers in little boxes on top of each other in considered luxury in CH!
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

I think the offer is fine for living a reasonable life in Zurich, which is what you seemed to imply reading the different responses to the various posts on the thread.

Groceries for a family of 4 (2 small children) would probably come to between 1600 and 2000 per month if you are particular about fresh fruit and vegetables and picky about quality meat/fish etc. (e.g. organic). If you eat what the average family eats that probably goes down to about 1000 to 1400 per month. If you buy the supermarket brands (prix garantis etc.), probably another 10% less.

We are a family of three and spend around CHF 2000 a month on groceries - that includes a few bottles wine per month and a lot of organic meat and MSC seafood and fish.
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Old 22.08.2011, 22:36
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I think that there was once a user survey...did it cover pay levels?

If so, might be good data to publish to allow people to see the ranges, averages etc
Yeah, because EF users will be absolutely honest and never even think of exaggerations...
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Old 22.08.2011, 22:37
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Yeah, because EF users will be absolutely honest and never even think of exaggerations...
Fair point!
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Old 22.08.2011, 23:15
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Maybe will settle down a bit when the cupboards are stocked.....?
I sure hope so! Like I said, we have been preparing everything (except for a "treat" to McDonalds yesterday that set us back 50 CHF and only 1 adult got a full "meal") and I really feel like we are eating like poor grad students again!
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Old 22.08.2011, 23:24
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I sure hope so! Like I said, we have been preparing everything (except for a "treat" to McDonalds yesterday that set us back 50 CHF and only 1 adult got a full "meal") and I really feel like we are eating like poor grad students again!
You've been switzerlanded.
Like said before, Its just probably because in the grocery cart is the cleaning material, salt, pepper and thing you dont normally buy every week. in a couple of weeks more, it should be basically aliments instead of the general stuff.
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Re: I have a job offer of 155.000 CHF per year. Can I live with that money in Zurich?

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hi thanos,

this is a very good salary. of course it depends what kind of lifestyle one has, but still. it is a very good salary.

what are your other options currently? if you don't want to stay in italy (and assuming you don't really want to go to greece at the moment ) why not grab such a good chance? if the work interests you, of course, and if your wife is fine with it.
My wife is from Italy. At tme moment I do not intend to go to Greece. It is out of the Question. From Milan to Zurich is a big step but I think it is a good one. Thanks anyway
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