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cannut 26.08.2011 13:58

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Canada? A vast, cultureless desert of snow and tundra, famous only for third rate doughnuts, melted cheese on chips and the folly of permitting the continued existence of a colony of Frenchmen in their midst, compared with a venerable and comfortable republic in the heart of the most civilised continent on Earth, where one can eat a sausage at the top of every mountain, ride a boat across every lake and live on chocolate for breakfast, lunch and dinner?

I'd choose - did choose - Switzerland.

In fact, I dislike Canada so much, I haven't even been there.
Are you looking for a fight ?;)

Guest 26.08.2011 14:06

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Are you looking for a fight ?;)

Clearly Dougal has never seen Strange Brew, or Hockey Night In Canada With Don Cherry... He has been culturally deprived ;)

And Tim Hortons isnt third rate (only when compared to Dunkin Donuts which Switzerland doesnt possess.)

st2lemans 26.08.2011 14:12

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Originally Posted by Wakey (Post 1315776)
I am pretty sure that most foreigners are here for the money and some other practicalities (healthcare, cleanliness, scenery, central location, firearms...) . Most dont seem to live in Switzerland because they actually like the country or its people...

(probably going to get groaned at for this, but this is my observation).

Well, I'm in the minority then because there was no financial advantage to my moving here, I just love the place!

Tom

cannut 26.08.2011 14:13

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Originally Posted by Zuger (Post 1313496)
If you live in Haiti right now I think you would be in shock when you come here. I know Haiti isnt as safe as 90% of any other place in the world, so any place you go will likely be a step up in that respect. But Switzerland is like stepping into scalding hot water for most people coming from the Western Hemisphere.

Ive lived in several places here in Europe and I would probably be more inclined to tell you to start in France, or even Spain. Spain has a very high quality of living, MUCH better climate, friendlier people (like what youre used to in Haiti), and cheaper everything (you can rent an 8 bedroom 500m from the beach for Euro1,300 per month).

Switzerland is a great place. But if you enjoy nice weather, people waiting an extra half second to open the door for you, and a cheap quick meal every now and then, you will resent this place unless you have an income that allows you to live very comfortably.

And the name of both country start with the letter "S" :D

Guest 26.08.2011 15:23

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Last time I came back from DRC I had a severe strain of E.Coli..... The Swiss hospitals all begged me to return to the States because they had no clue what I had.

After two weeks of agony I flew to the US. Was diagnosed in less than 24 hrs and was better in 3 days. My Swiss bill was CHF3,700. My US Bill was $250......

So I dont think the Swiss system is good nor cheap.

Definitely depends. I worked for an academic hospital in the US, but I think the standard of care is better here in a similar setting. My husband was treated for eye issues here and in the US. Better treatment here and less expensive. I 've been treated here for breast cancer, and the standard treatment here is better than what a lot of women get in the US, and chemo was less expensive than in the US. But I think we can make counter arguments for everything. Prescription drugs cost about the same in both cases, although here you pay a flat 10% versus variable copays.

cog 26.08.2011 15:53

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Originally Posted by darwiniandemon (Post 1315334)
As a Taiwanese, no problems whatsoever. Just annoying when I meet strangers they always use English with me right away, even when I can speak German. That's a general complaint and not really a problem.

Otherwise, I find the Swiss are generally receptive of Asians in the cities.

hey neighbor! i'm from the philippines. what brought you to switzerland? i think it's the case with us asians, people will generally, by default speak english with us. i find it nice though for them to do that. the down side is that it's hard to practice another language.

spalebärg 26.08.2011 15:54

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Originally Posted by cog (Post 1312235)
hi!
i've been stalking the forum for sometime now and i've been searching for jobs in switzerland for a few months. i just noticed that it's not very easy to get in switzerland and get settled.

but my question is (especially to those who lived there for a long time) is life there worth the difficulty to get into switzerland?
or should i look in other places in europe?

i'm head graphic designer of a marketing communications agency.
i just want to live where it's safe, organized and close to nature. i'm single 26 years old.

please share your thoughts, experiences and daily life. i'm aching for a new country and i'm very ready for change. i'm currently in haiti.

As Ayn Rand said, "One can ignore reality, but one cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

IMO some good reasons (among many for me) are as follows:
The world we live in is, in my opinion, facing a major paradigm shift.

In many places in the world, Greece, Egypt, Libya, Lebanon, Israel etc. etc. even recently London and other UK cities there have been massive disturbances. YouTube has been forced to censor protest videos in many countries... http://www.prisonplanet.com/governme...st-videos.html

The US economy has virtually come to a standstill and many parts of Europe are having economic problems (Euro crisis).

With all this going on and IMO getting worse Switzerland is maybe a good place to be. Here things are well organised, the country has much wealth and the population is well armed... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g

Well, maybe this list could be added to but off the top of my head it enumerates a few good reasons that others have not mentioned to feel happy here. ;)

cog 26.08.2011 16:01

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Originally Posted by DAVID WILLIAMS (Post 1315486)
I have lived in switzerland ten years back..then i went back to canada(vancouver) where i grew up as a child.in my view has lost its charm for me and the lifestyle i think has deteriorated.canadian cities have swiss expenses but not swiss expenses.distances to say get out of town on a weekend can be tremendous.traveling from vancouver say to mexico is usually much higher than traveling from calgary or toronto...i guess it depends what your looking for...in my eyes..switzerland has so much to offer ..i have a four year old and the close proximity to her school and the safety here is comforting to me...in vancouver.you don't lose site of your children..hey..vancouver is a nice city..but to me it has lost its charm..many people migrate to canada thinking it is the promise land...well..it has some good qualities..but lots of negative....i will give you a place that i think is one of the best places..that is whitehorse in the yukon....great nature,small place,good salaries,but one big problem-affordable housing or available housing. I am happy to here..to me canada has loss alot of what once made me proud...thanks for letting me vent..

not a problem. still, many filipinos go there to canada.. as you said, they think it's the promised land. but i also feel the same, i think switzerland has more to offer. espcially in terms of safety and being organized.

cog 26.08.2011 16:14

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Originally Posted by spalebärg (Post 1316045)
As Ayn Rand said, "One can ignore reality, but one cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

IMO some good reasons (among many for me) are as follows:
The world we live in is, in my opinion, facing a major paradigm shift.

In many places in the world, Greece, Egypt, Libya, Lebanon, Israel etc. etc. even recently London and other UK cities there have been massive disturbances. YouTube has been forced to censor protest videos in many countries... http://www.prisonplanet.com/governme...st-videos.html

The US economy has virtually come to a standstill and many parts of Europe are having economic problems (Euro crisis).

With all this going on and IMO getting worse Switzerland is maybe a good place to be. Here things are well organised, the country has much wealth and the population is well armed...

Well, maybe this list could be added to but off the top of my head it enumerates a few good reasons that others have not mentioned to feel happy here. ;)

people were telling me go back to asia, the western world is in crisis and work somewhere in the ASEAN, it'll be a lot easier and it's picking up in that side of the world. but i say, which country isn't in trouble? the answer, aside from singapore... switzerland! :)

AhYesBut 26.08.2011 16:17

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Where is the "Grandstanding Piffle" button ?

AYB

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Originally Posted by danielleAbear (Post 1315450)
I don't mind all the "difficulty" that is associated with living in Switzerland because I feel it serves a purpose & it does make your life better. The systems in place are not meant to be cheated & I am to proud to live in a country that expects more out of it's citizens/residents.


Guest 26.08.2011 16:36

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Definitely depends. I worked for an academic hospital in the US, but I think the standard of care is better here in a similar setting. My husband was treated for eye issues here and in the US. Better treatment here and less expensive. I 've been treated here for breast cancer, and the standard treatment here is better than what a lot of women get in the US, and chemo was less expensive than in the US. But I think we can make counter arguments for everything. Prescription drugs cost about the same in both cases, although here you pay a flat 10% versus variable copays.
Agree on one level. But I went to 3 hospitals in CH. E.Coli isnt exactly hard to find nor treat. The Swiss only deal with "local kinds of diseases"... Every doctor told me they didnt have the facilities to deal with my "unknown diseases".... The doctors office that cured me was in a shit-hole in Detroit that only treats the poor.

cog 26.08.2011 16:42

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Originally Posted by Zuger (Post 1316126)
Agree on one level. But I went to 3 hospitals in CH. E.Coli isnt exactly hard to find nor treat. The Swiss only deal with "local kinds of diseases"... Every doctor told me they didnt have the facilities to deal with my "unknown diseases".... The doctors office that cured me was in a shit-hole in Detroit that only treats the poor.

sometimes the bacteria could only be identified in hospitals that has dealt with it before. each strain is different. it's like a friend of mine who got sick here in haiti and went to the US, but the hospital said to go back to haiti because they would know the bacteria here and treat it accordingly.

spalebärg 26.08.2011 17:05

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There is another very important reason for me liking living in Switzerland that I left out of my previous message...
Here in Switzerland when you pay your taxes you are not subsidising the illegal wars of warmongering governments of nations such as the UK, the US and nowadays also parts of the EU. :(

cog 26.08.2011 17:21

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Originally Posted by spalebärg (Post 1316190)
There is another very important reason for me liking living in Switzerland that I left out of my previous message...
Here in Switzerland when you pay your taxes you are not subsidising the illegal wars of warmongering governments of nations such as the UK, the US and nowadays also parts of the EU. :(

yeah, it's another important thing, switzerland is a neutral country. in my opinion that is another point in favor of switzerland.

cannut 26.08.2011 17:46

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Originally Posted by spalebärg (Post 1316190)
There is another very important reason for me liking living in Switzerland that I left out of my previous message...
Here in Switzerland when you pay your taxes you are not subsidising the illegal wars of warmongering governments of nations such as the UK, the US and nowadays also parts of the EU. :(

If those warmongering country would not exist ,you capital city would be Berlin ,not Bern .:eek:What the hell both cites start with the letter "B";)

cog 26.08.2011 17:52

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ok. so far let me summarize the impressions i get from the replies from this thread.

PROs:
1. better healthcare and social system.
2. clean and organized.
3. safe <--very important!
4. good food. (according to tom)
5. close to nature.
6. close to other countries, easier for travelling.
7. pay is better (swiss francs).
8. the system in place is not meant to cheat people.
9. it's a beautiful country.
10. it's a neutral country.
11. the cities seem to be "asian-friendly" according to the kebab restos and people suddenly shifting to english when you're asian.

CONs
1. expensive. (from meat, transportation to rent and everything else in between)
2. not fun / not very social. (dry and cold society according to salsa lover)
3. few high-paid jobs.
4. not very easy to enter.
5. it's not a very good place for the design industry.

Not sure if PROs or CONs:
1. swiss households are armed with assault riffles.
2. you should be career oriented.

but the real odd thing is that there are more negative replies from people saying it's not good but continues to stay in switzerland without any prospects of leaving anytime soon... wonder why??

cog 26.08.2011 17:54

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Originally Posted by cannut (Post 1316262)
If those warmongering country would not exist ,you capital city would be Berlin ,not Bern .:eek:What the hell both cites start with the letter "B";)

what's up with the starting letters? switzerland, spain. berlin, bern! hahaha! :rofl:

colinwheeler 26.08.2011 17:57

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Originally Posted by cog (Post 1316270)
2. you should be career oriented.

I think the most important way to view this is that the Swiss expect everybody that comes and lives here to contribute something valuable to the society. People can see that in different ways but there is no free ride here.

cog 26.08.2011 18:13

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Originally Posted by colinwheeler (Post 1316278)
I think the most important way to view this is that the Swiss expect everybody that comes and lives here to contribute something valuable to the society. People can see that in different ways but there is no free ride here.

as it should everywhere else. each individual is expected to contribute something to society and to fend for yourself and your family.

cannut 26.08.2011 18:13

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Originally Posted by cog (Post 1316273)
what's up with the starting letters? switzerland, spain. berlin, bern! hahaha! :rofl:

It`s Friday ,I trey to be Funny;)Wow Lock at that both Friday and Funny starting with a "F":D

cog 26.08.2011 18:20

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Originally Posted by cannut (Post 1316305)
It`s Friday ,I trey to be Funny;)Wow Lock at that both Friday and Funny starting with a "F":D

okay, okay. maybe you should also find some words for the weekend. :msntongue:

cannut 26.08.2011 18:27

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Originally Posted by cog (Post 1316318)
okay, okay. maybe you should also find some words for the weekend. :msntongue:

Easy; Saturday,Sunday,sex:msngrin:

cog 26.08.2011 18:35

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Originally Posted by cannut (Post 1316332)
Easy; Saturday,Sunday,sex:msngrin:

that's a good one, three hit combo!

Lost2011 27.08.2011 05:02

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When was the last time you were in US? do you follow economy and the rest there? cause its pretty bad now and seems it will be even worst.
There are no jobs and seems that big business managed to outsourced any good paying job to overseas and still doing so plus brings cheap slave labor from 3 rd world nations, it is beyond belief how they managed to destroy this country in the name of their greed
Here in SoCal gas cost 4$ per gallon, jobs are scarce, and if you get a job your benefits are almost none to compare to EU or Swiss not to mention vacation days. On top of that food quality is way better in EU than US and car dependancy is not that much fun at all , well grass is greener on the other side but.........
USA is not what it used to be

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Originally Posted by Fawad (Post 1315359)
I have lived all over USA for the past 11 years before moving to Switzerland. It was mainly due to my wife wanting to live somewhere in EU since she is from here. If I had the option to choose between Switzerland and US, I would definitely go back to USA. I could get a house like a mansion, a nice car or two and great paying job with 40 hrs (40 hours means 40 hours there) in many great states like Texas, Arizona, Colorado, MI, FL, CA and VA etc.


tigris330 27.08.2011 08:22

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Originally Posted by cog (Post 1316270)
ok. so far let me summarize the impressions i get from the replies from this thread.

PROs:
1. better healthcare and social system.
2. clean and organized.
3. safe <--very important!
4. good food. (according to tom)
5. close to nature.
6. close to other countries, easier for travelling.
7. pay is better (swiss francs).
8. the system in place is not meant to cheat people.
9. it's a beautiful country.
10. it's a neutral country.
11. the cities seem to be "asian-friendly" according to the kebab restos and people suddenly shifting to english when you're asian.

CONs
1. expensive. (from meat, transportation to rent and everything else in between)
2. not fun / not very social. (dry and cold society according to salsa lover)
3. few high-paid jobs.
4. not very easy to enter.
5. it's not a very good place for the design industry.

Not sure if PROs or CONs:
1. swiss households are armed with assault riffles.
2. you should be career oriented.

but the real odd thing is that there are more negative replies from people saying it's not good but continues to stay in switzerland without any prospects of leaving anytime soon... wonder why??

Few high paid jobs FOR FOREIGNERS who don't speak native-like German. Locals and German immigrants have no problems getting well paid jobs if they are well qualified.

darwiniandemon 27.08.2011 08:37

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Originally Posted by cog (Post 1316042)
hey neighbor! i'm from the philippines. what brought you to switzerland? i think it's the case with us asians, people will generally, by default speak english with us. i find it nice though for them to do that. the down side is that it's hard to practice another language.

Moved to Germany for a girl after uni. Job was entry level but 10% hard work and 90% luck put me in a managerial development stream and 3 years later, was asked to move to CH. And so I'm here. Still with the love of my life so I'm a happy dude here in CH.

circe 27.08.2011 10:13

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Originally Posted by Lost2011 (Post 1316747)
When was the last time you were in US? do you follow economy and the rest there? cause its pretty bad now and seems it will be even worst.
There are no jobs and seems that big business managed to outsourced any good paying job to overseas and still doing so plus brings cheap slave labor from 3 rd world nations, it is beyond belief how they managed to destroy this country in the name of their greed
Here in SoCal gas cost 4$ per gallon, jobs are scarce, and if you get a job your benefits are almost none to compare to EU or Swiss not to mention vacation days. On top of that food quality is way better in EU than US and car dependancy is not that much fun at all , well grass is greener on the other side but.........
USA is not what it used to be

It's all in perception, isn't it?

I worked in a significantly outsourced environment here in CH, just like I did in the USA. There you may be "car dependent" but here I'm "train dependent". Sure the food is good here, but so too in the USA. I'd give anything for a proper American Cheeseburger at the moment!

I love CH, am happy to live here and plan to stay. Yes the economy is much better here than in the States, but that too can change. The point is, the USA isn't what it used to be because it continues to evolve and change. Ask the Schweizer - they'll tell you CH isn't what it used to be either!

Good luck to the OP. With the right job and willingness to integrate, either country could be a fantastic choice for you. (Or Canada, sans Quebec).

cannut 27.08.2011 14:57

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[QUOTE=circe;1316850]It's all in perception, isn't it?


Good luck to the OP. With the right job and willingness to integrate, either country could be a fantastic choice for you. (Or Canada, sans Quebec).[/QUOTE]
What concerns you ??? :confused:

OSueco 27.08.2011 16:38

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 1315596)
Strange, in 25 years I've almost never worked longer than a 42h week.

Tom

me too...and the 6 weeks vacation here sucks also...

cog 27.08.2011 17:29

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Originally Posted by darwiniandemon (Post 1316780)
Moved to Germany for a girl after uni. Job was entry level but 10% hard work and 90% luck put me in a managerial development stream and 3 years later, was asked to move to CH. And so I'm here. Still with the love of my life so I'm a happy dude here in CH.

wow! lucky you! i'm happy to hear your story. i have a similar story but it didn't end as good as yours.

cog 27.08.2011 17:33

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Originally Posted by circe (Post 1316850)
It's all in perception, isn't it?

I worked in a significantly outsourced environment here in CH, just like I did in the USA. There you may be "car dependent" but here I'm "train dependent". Sure the food is good here, but so too in the USA. I'd give anything for a proper American Cheeseburger at the moment!

I love CH, am happy to live here and plan to stay. Yes the economy is much better here than in the States, but that too can change. The point is, the USA isn't what it used to be because it continues to evolve and change. Ask the Schweizer - they'll tell you CH isn't what it used to be either!

Good luck to the OP. With the right job and willingness to integrate, either country could be a fantastic choice for you. (Or Canada, sans Quebec).

thanks! i just need to find a job, the rest will follow. (don't worry, i can manage to live with french ;) )

circe 27.08.2011 18:01

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[QUOTE=cannut;1317095]
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Originally Posted by circe (Post 1316850)
It's all in perception, isn't it?


Good luck to the OP. With the right job and willingness to integrate, either country could be a fantastic choice for you. (Or Canada, sans Quebec).[/QUOTE]
What concerns you ??? :confused:

ooh I just realized I missed the smiley face on the end of my snarky Quebec comment, so sorry for that. (It was intended with at least a bit of humor).

Having grown up on the border and indeed spending much of years 19-21 in Canadian bars I do quite like most of Canada. :) I find the country to be especially great at welcoming and trying to integrate foreigners and IMHO Toronto showcases this fabulously. Having said that, though, I find Quebec a bit different. In my experience it's a region that is indeed different from the rest of the country, with language being the most obvious example. Beyond the secessionist rhetoric, as a foreigner I would find it much easier to integrate and *feel* integrated in Toronto or Vancouver or Ottawa then in Quebec City. This is the reason I made the sans Quebec comment. Could the OP do well there and enjoy it? Of course. It's just my 2 Rappen that the other provinces might be an better choice and certainly wasn't meant to offend.

PS -it's just not a hockey game unless both Anthems are played!

cog 27.08.2011 18:16

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[QUOTE=circe;1317240]
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Originally Posted by cannut (Post 1317095)

ooh I just realized I missed the smiley face on the end of my snarky Quebec comment, so sorry for that. (It was intended with at least a bit of humor).

Having grown up on the border and indeed spending much of years 19-21 in Canadian bars I do quite like most of Canada. :) I find the country to be especially great at welcoming and trying to integrate foreigners and IMHO Toronto showcases this fabulously. Having said that, though, I find Quebec a bit different. In my experience it's a region that is indeed different from the rest of the country, with language being the most obvious example. Beyond the secessionist rhetoric, as a foreigner I would find it much easier to integrate and *feel* integrated in Toronto or Vancouver or Ottawa then in Quebec City. This is the reason I made the sans Quebec comment. Could the OP do well there and enjoy it? Of course. It's just my 2 Rappen that the other provinces might be an better choice and certainly wasn't meant to offend.

PS -it's just not a hockey game unless both Anthems are played!

i'm sure canada is great. i've met a lot of canadians and a lot of filipinos live there as well. but i really want to live in switzerland, build something there and settle down. i know the euro zone and most of the western world is in crisis, but i'd like to take my chances instead of going back to asia or staying in haiti, where i more or less know what will become of my life.

Fawad 27.08.2011 18:17

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Originally Posted by Lost2011 (Post 1316747)
When was the last time you were in US? do you follow economy and the rest there? cause its pretty bad now and seems it will be even worst.
There are no jobs and seems that big business managed to outsourced any good paying job to overseas and still doing so plus brings cheap slave labor from 3 rd world nations, it is beyond belief how they managed to destroy this country in the name of their greed
Here in SoCal gas cost 4$ per gallon, jobs are scarce, and if you get a job your benefits are almost none to compare to EU or Swiss not to mention vacation days. On top of that food quality is way better in EU than US and car dependancy is not that much fun at all , well grass is greener on the other side but.........
USA is not what it used to be

I agree with you that the situation is USA is really bad and its getting worse. However, I believe that the expats who can secure a high paying job in Switzerland can also secure it in USA. I am not talking about the helpdesk or tech support kinda jobs. For me, finding a job in USA or in Switzerland is not difficult (regardless of recession) so if I have the option to choose among the two places, I personally will choose USA over Switzerland (Not that Switzerland is bad or anything).

I can buy a huge house, a boat, a couple of cool cars with all the bling bling, work 40 hours a week and enjoy the weekend (BBQ, plenty of outdoor activities, movies, shopping at affordable prices etc etc.

cog 27.08.2011 18:32

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Originally Posted by Fawad (Post 1317256)
I agree with you that the situation is USA is really bad and its getting worse. However, I believe that the expats who can secure a high paying job in Switzerland can also secure it in USA. I am not talking about the helpdesk or tech support kinda jobs. For me, finding a job in USA or in Switzerland is not difficult (regardless of recession) so if I have the option to choose among the two places, I personally will choose USA over Switzerland (Not that Switzerland is bad or anything).

I can buy a huge house, a boat, a couple of cool cars with all the bling bling, work 40 hours a week and enjoy the weekend (BBQ, plenty of outdoor activities, movies, shopping at affordable prices etc etc.

the crisis is everywhere and if you look at the news there's always something wrong going on somewhere in the world.

Lost2011 27.08.2011 19:00

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Please tell me your definition of high paying job in Switzerland whats the magic number ?

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Originally Posted by Fawad (Post 1317256)
I agree with you that the situation is USA is really bad and its getting worse. However, I believe that the expats who can secure a high paying job in Switzerland can also secure it in USA. I am not talking about the helpdesk or tech support kinda jobs. For me, finding a job in USA or in Switzerland is not difficult (regardless of recession) so if I have the option to choose among the two places, I personally will choose USA over Switzerland (Not that Switzerland is bad or anything).

I can buy a huge house, a boat, a couple of cool cars with all the bling bling, work 40 hours a week and enjoy the weekend (BBQ, plenty of outdoor activities, movies, shopping at affordable prices etc etc.


Guest 27.08.2011 19:01

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Originally Posted by Lost2011 (Post 1317291)
Please tell me your definition of high paying job in Switzerland whats the magic number ?

Anything over 60 000 chf a year is pretty good. :)

Fawad 27.08.2011 19:02

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Originally Posted by cog (Post 1317266)
the crisis is everywhere and if you look at the news there's always something wrong going on somewhere in the world.

Sad and true :msnsad:

cog 27.08.2011 19:11

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Originally Posted by Fawad (Post 1317293)
Sad and true :msnsad:

and having said that, i think we should not worry much about the crisis. rather, think of ways on how we can improve and achieve what we like. hence, me pushing to find my place in switzerland.

Lost2011 28.08.2011 19:45

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You must be kidding me I thought I will see something at least 120k a year
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Anything over 60 000 chf a year is pretty good. :)


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