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26.08.2011, 18:20
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | It`s Friday ,I trey to be Funny Wow Lock at that both Friday and Funny starting with a "F" | | | | | okay, okay. maybe you should also find some words for the weekend. | 
26.08.2011, 18:27
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | okay, okay. maybe you should also find some words for the weekend.  | | | | | Easy; Saturday,Sunday,sex | This user would like to thank cannut for this useful post: | | 
26.08.2011, 18:35
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | Easy; Saturday,Sunday,sex | | | | | that's a good one, three hit combo!
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27.08.2011, 05:02
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When was the last time you were in US? do you follow economy and the rest there? cause its pretty bad now and seems it will be even worst.
There are no jobs and seems that big business managed to outsourced any good paying job to overseas and still doing so plus brings cheap slave labor from 3 rd world nations, it is beyond belief how they managed to destroy this country in the name of their greed
Here in SoCal gas cost 4$ per gallon, jobs are scarce, and if you get a job your benefits are almost none to compare to EU or Swiss not to mention vacation days. On top of that food quality is way better in EU than US and car dependancy is not that much fun at all , well grass is greener on the other side but.........
USA is not what it used to be | Quote: | |  | | | I have lived all over USA for the past 11 years before moving to Switzerland. It was mainly due to my wife wanting to live somewhere in EU since she is from here. If I had the option to choose between Switzerland and US, I would definitely go back to USA. I could get a house like a mansion, a nice car or two and great paying job with 40 hrs (40 hours means 40 hours there) in many great states like Texas, Arizona, Colorado, MI, FL, CA and VA etc. | | | | | | The following 4 users would like to thank Lost2011 for this useful post: | | 
27.08.2011, 08:22
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | ok. so far let me summarize the impressions i get from the replies from this thread.
PROs:
1. better healthcare and social system.
2. clean and organized.
3. safe <--very important!
4. good food. (according to tom)
5. close to nature.
6. close to other countries, easier for travelling.
7. pay is better (swiss francs).
8. the system in place is not meant to cheat people.
9. it's a beautiful country.
10. it's a neutral country.
11. the cities seem to be "asian-friendly" according to the kebab restos and people suddenly shifting to english when you're asian.
CONs
1. expensive. (from meat, transportation to rent and everything else in between)
2. not fun / not very social. (dry and cold society according to salsa lover)
3. few high-paid jobs.
4. not very easy to enter.
5. it's not a very good place for the design industry.
Not sure if PROs or CONs:
1. swiss households are armed with assault riffles.
2. you should be career oriented.
but the real odd thing is that there are more negative replies from people saying it's not good but continues to stay in switzerland without any prospects of leaving anytime soon... wonder why?? | | | | | Few high paid jobs FOR FOREIGNERS who don't speak native-like German. Locals and German immigrants have no problems getting well paid jobs if they are well qualified.
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27.08.2011, 08:37
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | hey neighbor! i'm from the philippines. what brought you to switzerland? i think it's the case with us asians, people will generally, by default speak english with us. i find it nice though for them to do that. the down side is that it's hard to practice another language. | | | | | Moved to Germany for a girl after uni. Job was entry level but 10% hard work and 90% luck put me in a managerial development stream and 3 years later, was asked to move to CH. And so I'm here. Still with the love of my life so I'm a happy dude here in CH.
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27.08.2011, 10:13
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | When was the last time you were in US? do you follow economy and the rest there? cause its pretty bad now and seems it will be even worst.
There are no jobs and seems that big business managed to outsourced any good paying job to overseas and still doing so plus brings cheap slave labor from 3 rd world nations, it is beyond belief how they managed to destroy this country in the name of their greed
Here in SoCal gas cost 4$ per gallon, jobs are scarce, and if you get a job your benefits are almost none to compare to EU or Swiss not to mention vacation days. On top of that food quality is way better in EU than US and car dependancy is not that much fun at all , well grass is greener on the other side but.........
USA is not what it used to be | | | | | It's all in perception, isn't it?
I worked in a significantly outsourced environment here in CH, just like I did in the USA. There you may be "car dependent" but here I'm "train dependent". Sure the food is good here, but so too in the USA. I'd give anything for a proper American Cheeseburger at the moment!
I love CH, am happy to live here and plan to stay. Yes the economy is much better here than in the States, but that too can change. The point is, the USA isn't what it used to be because it continues to evolve and change. Ask the Schweizer - they'll tell you CH isn't what it used to be either!
Good luck to the OP. With the right job and willingness to integrate, either country could be a fantastic choice for you. (Or Canada, sans Quebec).
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27.08.2011, 14:57
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| | Re: why live in switzerland?
[QUOTE=circe;1316850]It's all in perception, isn't it?
Good luck to the OP. With the right job and willingness to integrate, either country could be a fantastic choice for you. (Or Canada, sans Quebec).[/QUOTE]
What concerns you ??? | 
27.08.2011, 16:38
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | Strange, in 25 years I've almost never worked longer than a 42h week.
Tom | | | | | me too...and the 6 weeks vacation here sucks also...
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27.08.2011, 17:29
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | Moved to Germany for a girl after uni. Job was entry level but 10% hard work and 90% luck put me in a managerial development stream and 3 years later, was asked to move to CH. And so I'm here. Still with the love of my life so I'm a happy dude here in CH. | | | | | wow! lucky you! i'm happy to hear your story. i have a similar story but it didn't end as good as yours.
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27.08.2011, 17:33
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | It's all in perception, isn't it?
I worked in a significantly outsourced environment here in CH, just like I did in the USA. There you may be "car dependent" but here I'm "train dependent". Sure the food is good here, but so too in the USA. I'd give anything for a proper American Cheeseburger at the moment!
I love CH, am happy to live here and plan to stay. Yes the economy is much better here than in the States, but that too can change. The point is, the USA isn't what it used to be because it continues to evolve and change. Ask the Schweizer - they'll tell you CH isn't what it used to be either!
Good luck to the OP. With the right job and willingness to integrate, either country could be a fantastic choice for you. (Or Canada, sans Quebec). | | | | | thanks! i just need to find a job, the rest will follow. (don't worry, i can manage to live with french  )
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27.08.2011, 18:01
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| | Re: why live in switzerland?
[QUOTE=cannut;1317095] | Quote: | |  | | | It's all in perception, isn't it?
Good luck to the OP. With the right job and willingness to integrate, either country could be a fantastic choice for you. (Or Canada, sans Quebec).[/QUOTE]
What concerns you ???  | | | | | ooh I just realized I missed the smiley face on the end of my snarky Quebec comment, so sorry for that. (It was intended with at least a bit of humor).
Having grown up on the border and indeed spending much of years 19-21 in Canadian bars I do quite like most of Canada.  I find the country to be especially great at welcoming and trying to integrate foreigners and IMHO Toronto showcases this fabulously. Having said that, though, I find Quebec a bit different. In my experience it's a region that is indeed different from the rest of the country, with language being the most obvious example. Beyond the secessionist rhetoric, as a foreigner I would find it much easier to integrate and *feel* integrated in Toronto or Vancouver or Ottawa then in Quebec City. This is the reason I made the sans Quebec comment. Could the OP do well there and enjoy it? Of course. It's just my 2 Rappen that the other provinces might be an better choice and certainly wasn't meant to offend.
PS -it's just not a hockey game unless both Anthems are played!
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27.08.2011, 18:16
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[QUOTE=circe;1317240] | Quote: | |  | | |
ooh I just realized I missed the smiley face on the end of my snarky Quebec comment, so sorry for that. (It was intended with at least a bit of humor).
Having grown up on the border and indeed spending much of years 19-21 in Canadian bars I do quite like most of Canada. I find the country to be especially great at welcoming and trying to integrate foreigners and IMHO Toronto showcases this fabulously. Having said that, though, I find Quebec a bit different. In my experience it's a region that is indeed different from the rest of the country, with language being the most obvious example. Beyond the secessionist rhetoric, as a foreigner I would find it much easier to integrate and *feel* integrated in Toronto or Vancouver or Ottawa then in Quebec City. This is the reason I made the sans Quebec comment. Could the OP do well there and enjoy it? Of course. It's just my 2 Rappen that the other provinces might be an better choice and certainly wasn't meant to offend.
PS -it's just not a hockey game unless both Anthems are played! | | | | | i'm sure canada is great. i've met a lot of canadians and a lot of filipinos live there as well. but i really want to live in switzerland, build something there and settle down. i know the euro zone and most of the western world is in crisis, but i'd like to take my chances instead of going back to asia or staying in haiti, where i more or less know what will become of my life.
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27.08.2011, 18:17
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | When was the last time you were in US? do you follow economy and the rest there? cause its pretty bad now and seems it will be even worst.
There are no jobs and seems that big business managed to outsourced any good paying job to overseas and still doing so plus brings cheap slave labor from 3 rd world nations, it is beyond belief how they managed to destroy this country in the name of their greed
Here in SoCal gas cost 4$ per gallon, jobs are scarce, and if you get a job your benefits are almost none to compare to EU or Swiss not to mention vacation days. On top of that food quality is way better in EU than US and car dependancy is not that much fun at all , well grass is greener on the other side but.........
USA is not what it used to be | | | | | I agree with you that the situation is USA is really bad and its getting worse. However, I believe that the expats who can secure a high paying job in Switzerland can also secure it in USA. I am not talking about the helpdesk or tech support kinda jobs. For me, finding a job in USA or in Switzerland is not difficult (regardless of recession) so if I have the option to choose among the two places, I personally will choose USA over Switzerland (Not that Switzerland is bad or anything).
I can buy a huge house, a boat, a couple of cool cars with all the bling bling, work 40 hours a week and enjoy the weekend (BBQ, plenty of outdoor activities, movies, shopping at affordable prices etc etc.
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27.08.2011, 18:32
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | I agree with you that the situation is USA is really bad and its getting worse. However, I believe that the expats who can secure a high paying job in Switzerland can also secure it in USA. I am not talking about the helpdesk or tech support kinda jobs. For me, finding a job in USA or in Switzerland is not difficult (regardless of recession) so if I have the option to choose among the two places, I personally will choose USA over Switzerland (Not that Switzerland is bad or anything).
I can buy a huge house, a boat, a couple of cool cars with all the bling bling, work 40 hours a week and enjoy the weekend (BBQ, plenty of outdoor activities, movies, shopping at affordable prices etc etc. | | | | | the crisis is everywhere and if you look at the news there's always something wrong going on somewhere in the world.
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27.08.2011, 19:00
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Please tell me your definition of high paying job in Switzerland whats the magic number ? | Quote: | |  | | | I agree with you that the situation is USA is really bad and its getting worse. However, I believe that the expats who can secure a high paying job in Switzerland can also secure it in USA. I am not talking about the helpdesk or tech support kinda jobs. For me, finding a job in USA or in Switzerland is not difficult (regardless of recession) so if I have the option to choose among the two places, I personally will choose USA over Switzerland (Not that Switzerland is bad or anything).
I can buy a huge house, a boat, a couple of cool cars with all the bling bling, work 40 hours a week and enjoy the weekend (BBQ, plenty of outdoor activities, movies, shopping at affordable prices etc etc. | | | | | | 
27.08.2011, 19:01
| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | Please tell me your definition of high paying job in Switzerland whats the magic number ? | | | | | Anything over 60 000 chf a year is pretty good. | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
27.08.2011, 19:02
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | the crisis is everywhere and if you look at the news there's always something wrong going on somewhere in the world. | | | | | Sad and true | 
27.08.2011, 19:11
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| | Re: why live in switzerland? | Quote: | |  | | | Sad and true  | | | | | and having said that, i think we should not worry much about the crisis. rather, think of ways on how we can improve and achieve what we like. hence, me pushing to find my place in switzerland.
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28.08.2011, 19:45
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You must be kidding me I thought I will see something at least 120k a year | Quote: |  | | | Anything over 60 000 chf a year is pretty good.  | | | | | |
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