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Old 16.09.2011, 08:02
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Their English is definitely suffering at this point. Not sure how crucial those years are though. There are so many nice regional accents in the UK, plus cult movies, from Mary Poppins to The Italian Job, relatives "Up North" to package them off to in exchange for "Skiing holidays" here on Zuggerberg, computer manuals, books. Perhaps we should persuade Jule Andrews to open an English Language school here. Otherwise I would suspect the quality of English lessons available locally. The English teachers in schools make mistakes in the written work. But that happens in the UK these days!
Does your school not offer the Cambridge certificate? The exam isn't cheap but for young UK expats who might one day want to attend uni back in blighty it's pretty much essential.
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Re: Cost of living? Please help! [110K, Zug, 2 adults+2 kids]

After 30+ years living and working in the UK (last 15 in London/SE) I moved to work in Switzerland with my wife (we're both English), had six months living in France and commuting, now moving to Zurich. London versus Zug is no contest. Suggest put kids in Swiss kinderten/schools form the start, they'll grow up totally bilingual + extremely profficient in a third language. I'm fairly fluent in French (started at 36) now started German (at 50+) it's a challenge but worth it. depending what kind of Essex people you are, 2500 will see you OK on Zug and very comfortable just outside.
If you're coming here debt free you'll be fine on 110K, it will give you approx. just over 7k CHf a month take home after stoppages (tax, 1st & 2nd pillar Nat Ins).
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OK for us oldies who learnt our French in France at school, it is not the same ...
Indeed, tutoyering someone when you don't even know their name!

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Indeed, tutoyering someone when you don't even know their name!

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You made me laugh ..

.. but we're talking kids here ..
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We are a family with 2 kids (3yrs & 5 yrs) and earn less than the 100k and still manage to live a good life in the kanton Zug. For us, it comes down to budgeting and saving where we can. My kids go to local schools (which by the way are excellent!) We have 1 car which is barely used, hubby takes his bike to work and the bus/trains are well connected.

Finding a cheap (under 3k/month) 4.5 room apartment in the region maybe your biggest hurdle.
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Does your school not offer the Cambridge certificate? The exam isn't cheap but for young UK expats who might one day want to attend uni back in blighty it's pretty much essential.
Although it's not quite on-topic, the Cambridge certificate(s) aren't actually necessarily essential for expat kids, even ones who want to go to university in the UK - it depends on the child. I wouldn't want anyone to panic, thinking that without the Cambridge course everything was going to go wrong for their child later! My sisters and I were all brought up in Belgium, in local French-speaking schools from the age of 7 or less. The youngest was born in Belgium and never attended school anywhere else. All of us have degrees from UK universities (one has a masters in interpreting, which requires the highest possible level of mother-tongue ability), and none of us had any trouble with our applications - in fact I'd say our spelling and grammar is better than that of many kids who were brought up in the UK! (And while three of us loved reading, one of us hated it, but it hasn't made any difference in the long-term). And all of us speak and write fluent French too, of course. So don't panic. Watch your kids and see how they do. There's always somewhere to do a Cambridge Certificate if you need to, but you may well be able to save the money and put it towards those expensive tuition fees...

(Incidentally, putting my kids in a local school is something I was very pleased to have done when I saw the tuition fees go up again in the UK! With any luck they can go to uni here instead... )

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Dear All,


I apologise if a similar question has been asked hundreds of times. Iíve searched the forum already, but I really need your opinion.
I was offered a position in Zug which pays 110K CHF gross per year (not sure if 12 or 13 monts). Iím considering moving over to Zug from London with my wife and two kids (5 and 7 months). Can you please let me know if I will be able to support my family at a reasonable level? Iím not talking any luxury here, just normal life (probably will need a car as well). My wife will not work initially.


Currently Iím on £45K plus car and petrol . I may also have another offer (having an interview soon) for a job in London for £65K.


At the moment we are managing just fine (no savings though).
I would like to move to Switzerland, however, I need to make sure our quality of life (in financial terms) will be at least on the same level.


Any help much appreciated.
Regards.
Michael.

Depends on the type of your consumables. From my almost 4 year experience, I would go for the 65K.
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Re: Cost of living? Please help! [110K, Zug, 2 adults+2 kids]

Dear All,

Thank you very much for all answers / opinions. I have finally got a job offer (in writing) to come and work in Zug.

Having carefully evaluated all pros and cons, I think it would be foolish not to give it a go.

I have therefore agreed to the terms and will be coming to Zug on the 1st of January 2012 (so Iíll have just over 11 months before the world ends....).

Again, thanks to all of you for your input, despite similar questions having being asked hundreds of times.

See you on the slope....

Regards,

Michael.
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