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Re: Things I wish I had known before moving here

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- Beer costs 7 CHF.
- Disco Dancing 25 CHF.
- getting a job is easier than getting an apartment.
- easier to talk to cows than swiss girls.
well, how much more is in your pay packet than before? Using Hamburger rule, how long does it take you to have one here and before you arrived? I hate to say this, if you do not do your homework before you come about apartment and not being put up in hotel by the company as part of your package for a few month, then it is no one's fault.
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If I could travel back in time, I would tell myself the following:

swiss german is really different to german [understatement warning]
keep internet purchases below CHF65
flights should be booked well in advance
all the girls I like will be smokers
most people rent...for good reasons
one should be a good cook
cablecom's CHF 75 for TV and internet deal is quite good
Luxor is a good gym for guys
buy a bike, not a travel pass
cheap temporary furniture can be had in Lipo
don't import fancy french period furniture
job agents charge a lot [understatement warning]
meat is expensive [understatement warning x2]
canadian visas are now quite hard to get [understatement warning]
tandoori BBQ will be your favourite restaurant
you and that blonde half your age won't last
you were right to be suscipious at the interview
you will meet more people in one weekend in Vienna
and mine:
-Eat fondue in the winter. And if your bread falls in the cheese you have to sing a song-and it better be a Swiss one!
-put your garbage out in the proper white Züri bag ( if you live in Zürich).If you dont they will lynch you.
-if you get caught travelling without a ticket on tram etc try to fumble around like an ignorant tourist
-look at women in the eyes if you toast them while drinking- even if she has great boobs.
-don't stage illegal parties and don't throw bicycle seats at demo's.
-don't sing on the public transport-you will get a fine for disturbing the peace
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Old 14.09.2011, 20:11
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- easier to talk to cows than swiss girls.
That's the case in every country that has cows.

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Old 14.09.2011, 20:22
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That's the case in every country that has cows.
yes, but the conversation is not usually more interesting!
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Re: Things I wish I had known before moving here

I totally dont comprehend that, since 120k Swiss is 136K US , most of the people in CAL. make that kind of money in IT and that does not make us rich and top of that prices are lower here, so what is the story with that?
how can you be better off financially >?

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120 K is the standard acceptable salary for ex-pats. If you are earning over this, you are bloody rich.
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prices are lower here
I thought crack was illegal here. So what are you smoking exactly?
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Old 15.09.2011, 15:58
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I would add:
-your swiss neighbors are watching you carefully, even though it seems like the are ignoring you.
-only take your garbage out on garbage days and in the black bags
-for every jerk there is another amazing kind soul (I think this applies worldwide but it is easy to forget sometimes)
-you will have many surprise bills for things you wouldn't even think to ask about beforehand
-your home currency will deteriorate by almost 25 cents over the course of six months, change your currency a year ago.
-eat as much meat as you can before you come, and bring some iron pills with you for when you can't afford to eat meat often here
-take some language lessons before you get here
-swisscom's "unlimited" high speed internet, is only high speed for the first 10GB
-and for trailing spouses: have an open mind of what would constitute success or personal meaning during your time here, be patient, be friendly, and stay connected with your support system at home

Yup, those are the ones off the top of my head.

I agree... !
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Old 15.09.2011, 16:10
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I totally dont comprehend that, since 120k Swiss is 136K US , most of the people in CAL. make that kind of money in IT and that does not make us rich and top of that prices are lower here, so what is the story with that?
how can you be better off financially >?
tell us about the taxation system in CA. I would not call it progressive.....in real terms, you factor in around 20% deductions here.....sales tax is 8% and there is quite low recycling tax on (some) purchases.
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Old 15.09.2011, 16:32
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Re: Things I wish I had known before moving here

That I have to say 'Grüezi' to every god damn person in our town when walking the dog.....

Oh and everyone knows who I am but I don't know who they are.....
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Old 15.09.2011, 16:33
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Swiss-German is very similar to
- Bavarian
- Southern Baden-Württembergisch
- Vorarlbergisch
- Tirolerisch
- Saxonian

---- Wienerisch is not the same as Berlinerisch

> Swiss-German IS German, even if not exactly the language of the Kingdom of Prussia



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i would say this is not true, sir, i would agree with the ones bolded. Swiss is alemannic, as is Badisch and Schwäbisch and the few remaining speakers of Elsässisch but its not linguistically super close to bavarian/tyrol and certainly not saxon, which have different german tribe origins.

have a look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemannic_German
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_dialects

and here's a cool old map before the germans got ethnically cleansed out of a lot of places after ww2...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Br..._Mundarten.jpg
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i would say this is not true, sir, i would agree with the ones bolded. Swiss is alemannic, as is Badisch and Schwäbisch and the few remaining speakers of Elsässisch but its not linguistically super close to bavarian/tyrol and certainly not saxon, which have different german tribe origins.

have a look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemannic_German
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_dialects

and here's a cool old map before the germans got ethnically cleansed out of a lot of places after ww2...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Br..._Mundarten.jpg
and the chart, just loaded into my files, reminds me of the 20 books 1997/98-Brockhaus (incomplete) we had at home, got from Mr Thoma who died at at age 99 in 56. When my brother went off, he left me the decisions and I opted for the complete 1908 Meyer's Konversations-Lexikon plus the Atlas of the Schweizer Lexica of 1946 and the 1946 world map of dad. Let's add that the "Meyer's" was the lexica of beloved granddad and grandmom on the mother side

True, but Saxonians understand Swiss-German right on the spot and so do most Bavarians and Tiroler.
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GOOD ADVICE!! (too late for me)

We have been here less than a year and have had my niece for one week, now my parents are coming for 3 weeks, my niece is coming back for one week, friends of friends that i have never met in person are coming for a long weekend. We have a one bed flat and had to buy a sofa bed - now we need an extra wardrobe. We of course will travel around with them so lots of train tickets, car hire, eating out ...............
Yup, same here...
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Re: Things I wish I had known before moving here

Funny this always reminds of this very same thing I have about American men you know.

- Waste no time on American men I say, yeah!!!

(I don't care whether you're American or not though I simply wanted to get this off my chest.)


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- The dollar will lose half it's value against the Swiss Franc
- Buy gold
- Waste no time on Swiss women
- Shop in Germany
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- Waste no time on Swiss women
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- Waste no time on American men I say, yeah!!!
Hmmmm....... the double negative


One won't talk, and the other won't shut up


Which is truely the lesser evil ?


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- Europe is far more difficult to get around than you think
(It takes months to plan to save money, and seemingly relatively short distances always takes much longer)

- German, French, Italian, and Romansch are the 4 official languages...... Yet learning to speak German is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle when trying to understand Swiss-Deutsch
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Hmmmm....... the double negative


One won't talk, and the other won't shut up


Which is truely the lesser evil ?


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Why, teasing Karl is a pleasure nothing evil in that. I shall shut up now.
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Old 16.09.2011, 15:36
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Hey, i hope you wrote that sentence just for kidding or to be ironic. I'm in process to transfer me to Switzerland and you scared me :-P (also i LOVE red meat).
I am afraid frantic jests not. I can buy a kilogram of good Aberdeen angus rump steak in the UK for less than one small steak costs here.....but the beer is OK!
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Re: Things I wish I had known before moving here

My 2 Rappens worth below..


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- The dollar will lose half it's value against the Swiss Franc - Again???
- Buy gold - Not at the current price, surely??
- Waste no time on Swiss women - No time spent on ANY woman, Swiss or not, is wasted...
- Shop in Germany - can't argue with that! Even the Swiss are starting to do it....
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My 2 Rappens worth below..
This is a hindsight thread is it not?
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I am afraid frantic jests not. I can buy a kilogram of good Aberdeen angus rump steak in the UK for less than one small steak costs here.....but the beer is OK!
Yep, as i said, i am aware about high cost of red meat.
What astonished me is that someone emigrate in a new country (a step that usually you make to improve your living condition*) and then he discovers that he will not be able to afford to eat red meat. Hey this remembers me stories of my granpa and granma during WW2 and nazi occupation when red meat was a real luxury and they can only eat sometimes white meat (and they were considered "VERY LUCKY" for this).


* ok ok, red meat doesn't represent my entire whole reason to live
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