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crimson 18.09.2011 23:24

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrie F (Post 1343822)
But is it true that they yodel when they orgasm? :msnsarcastic:

only when they fake one

Captain Greybeard 19.09.2011 00:30

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
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Originally Posted by Carrie F (Post 1343822)
But is it true that they yodel when they orgasm? :msnsarcastic:

No, but there may be some alphorn blowing beforehand.

Sorry, you brought it up. I'm outa here.

manadi 19.09.2011 01:13

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Here is an interesting list of facts.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~terry/english...itzerland.html

Wollishofener 19.09.2011 01:28

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Paradeplatz, Fridays 5.30 pm, pissing rain, approaching tram. Don't forget your gum shield and steel-capped boots.
Beside the point that I detest people getting home in mid-afternoon, you should have adapted your headgear and had the correct thing up
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ijYO1AftYyji3X
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as well as this gear here
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...onet_clean.jpg http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17...gnify-clip.png
Deutsches Bajonett 98/05 von 1905 für das Gewehr 98
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:D

Wollishofener 19.09.2011 01:38

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Originally Posted by OSueco (Post 1343320)
I think you misunderstand the topic...it's about misconception that people had about Switzerland before arriving here...sigh

but, if somebody goes to a country
- without reading the available information
- without looking at the most obious basic facts of live
- without any sense for reaities
you know as what the person will be described as ???? :p

Wollishofener 19.09.2011 01:53

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
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Originally Posted by Lakeside (Post 1343501)
I thought people would be as friendly and as well-mannered as where I grew up - I was in for a bit of a shock... (move to Geneva)

then the culture shock between Geneva and Zurich :)

I do not think there is a "Swiss culture" - it is more regional than that. Even the Baslers are different to the Zürchers in many subtle ways.

<> as you in profile do not name your origin it is not possible to guess where you grew up
<> Geneva is Savoyard, Zürich is Alemannic, so that I cannot quite see what may be shocking about differences
<> culture in Switzerland IS and HAS TO BE cantonal and not centralist ---- this is even a basic doctrine here
<> the Basler are of course different (Süd-Badisch) ;)

Wollishofener 19.09.2011 02:36

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
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Originally Posted by OSueco (Post 1343610)
once again...misconceptions about Switzerland before people came here, why is it relevant how it is in other countries??? :confused: it has nothing to do with the topic...I understand that it's hard to hear for "swiss" :rolleyes:

Stop please. Most Swiss live in areas less than 40 kilometers from the next borders. Most Swiss are out of families partially of "foreign" origin. In many Swiss Cantons prime attractions are outside Switzerland. In Schaffhausen, THE castle (ruin) is the Hohentwiel http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...l_sideview.jpg
, and prime mountains are Hohenhöven, Hohenkrähen and Hohenstoffel. And a favourite wine of my Grandfather in Schaffhausen (SH/CH) was Spätburgunder Weissherbst from north of the Bodensee. In Geneva, the mountain of Geneva is the Salève


http://images.gadmin.st.s3.amazonaws...hne/bahn-1.jpg

http://www.myswitzerland.com/de/reis...nt-saleve.html

and look at the MATTERHORN /MonteCervino. While east and west and north of this mountain are on Swiss territory, the south-side is Italian.

Konstanz and Kreuzlingen are growing together as it should be. So that Kreuzlingers in Konstanz do not feal abroad and neither do Konstanzers in Kreuzlingen as both only had/have to cross a border.

So, as a conclusion, your weird attempt to separate Switzerland from its surroundings is defintely REJECTED :mad::(

ullainga 19.09.2011 07:58

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Wolli please - this is a topic about what we incorrectly thought about Switzerland before moving here. We have already realized that this was not correct, therefore there is really no need to point out why and how stupid we all really were, thinking what we thought.

Guest 19.09.2011 09:08

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
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Originally Posted by ullainga (Post 1343948)
Wolli please - this is a topic about what we incorrectly thought about Switzerland before moving here. We have already realized that this was not correct, therefore there is really no need to point out why and how stupid we all really were, thinking what we thought.

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...8224504159.jpg

:D

Scrum-half 19.09.2011 12:56

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Originally Posted by jerallie (Post 1342348)
...what things were you told nor read about that simply weren't true when you finally got here? ...

I wasn't told or read about this, but simply presumed that ...

As there are lots of cows, I thought the beef steak would be cheap.

As there are lots of dairy farms, all the dairy products would be available, but I can't find the Clotted cream for my scone!!

Guest 19.09.2011 13:14

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wollishofener (Post 1343896)
but, if somebody goes to a country
- without reading the available information
- without looking at the most obious basic facts of live
- without any sense for reaities
you know as what the person will be described as ???? :p

Adventurous.

Now, do yourself a favour and put this thread on Ignore before you make a greater fool of yourself than you've done already. ;)

SWISSG 19.09.2011 13:15

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Originally Posted by jerallie (Post 1342682)
I thought:

*You could at least park at big retailers for free
*Cheese would be cheaper (It is fabulous though)
*Easier and cheaper to ship things here (Damn Post handling charge)
*Dryers would dry clothes in the same amount of time as the US
*Fish would be harder to find and really bad (Not the case, although it is expensive)
*There would be brand name outlet stores (/they have them in Italy, Gemany and France)
*Marshmallows would be cheap and everywhere
*Halloween would be celebrated
*Less opportunity to swim at public pools


I thought the dryer thing was my problem.

st2lemans 19.09.2011 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jerallie (Post 1342682)
I thought:

*You could at least park at big retailers for free

You can (in Ticino)

Quote:

*There would be brand name outlet stores (/they have them in Italy, Gemany and France)
There are (in Ticino)

Quote:

*Halloween would be celebrated
It is (in Ticino)

Face it, you moved to the wrong part of the country! :D

Tom

jerallie 19.09.2011 17:10

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I thought that:

There would be graffiti on everything and everywhere

The kitchen sinks could fit more than 3 dishes at once

The freezer in the fridge could fit more than a box of glace

I would be stopped at the motorway border every time I cross. (Still have never been stopped)

adrianlondon 19.09.2011 17:19

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I don't see any Swiss posting their misconceptions.

This thread title annoys me ;)

prof. taratonga 19.09.2011 17:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ullainga (Post 1343948)
there is really no need to point out why and how stupid we all really were, thinking what we thought.

There is, I feel much better now.

AbFab 19.09.2011 17:54

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I took Wolli's advice and inspected my Swiss family thoroughly before even contemplating coming here to live.

However, what I was not prepared for was "political roadworks". That is streets and roads closed to traffic for not only months, but at times years. So long that they must appear maps, let alone Google earth. With little, if any, difference to show for it when it's all over...

rcp27 19.09.2011 19:24

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Although I was reasonably well informed before I came here, I had expected to be able to do shopping on a Sunday, and that I wouldn't be infuriated by endless bells.

DrRoss 20.09.2011 10:23

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Swiss neutrality and impartiality ..... hah! Just try working with them

OSueco 20.09.2011 12:18

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wollishofener (Post 1343898)
Stop please. Most Swiss live in areas less than 40 kilometers from the next borders. Most Swiss are out of families partially of "foreign" origin. In many Swiss Cantons prime attractions are outside Switzerland. In Schaffhausen, THE castle (ruin) is the Hohentwiel http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...l_sideview.jpg
, and prime mountains are Hohenhöven, Hohenkrähen and Hohenstoffel. And a favourite wine of my Grandfather in Schaffhausen (SH/CH) was Spätburgunder Weissherbst from north of the Bodensee. In Geneva, the mountain of Geneva is the Salève


http://images.gadmin.st.s3.amazonaws...hne/bahn-1.jpg

http://www.myswitzerland.com/de/reis...nt-saleve.html

and look at the MATTERHORN /MonteCervino. While east and west and north of this mountain are on Swiss territory, the south-side is Italian.

Konstanz and Kreuzlingen are growing together as it should be. So that Kreuzlingers in Konstanz do not feal abroad and neither do Konstanzers in Kreuzlingen as both only had/have to cross a border.

So, as a conclusion, your weird attempt to separate Switzerland from its surroundings is defintely REJECTED :mad::(

I have no idea what you're "ranting" about...:confused:
anybody?

runningdeer 20.09.2011 13:06

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That Switzerland was safe--back when it was safe:msngrin:, was attacked in broad daylight in a very respectable part of the city with 1 week of setting foot in CH

That Switzerland was clean--all the graffiti made the city extremely dirty looking even if the street cleaning machine just passed

Ardneham 20.09.2011 13:48

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I thought the residents of Switzerland did not make Organ Donations or
stand last in the Index of Transplants?

Siorys 23.09.2011 20:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Greybeard (Post 1343802)
I hope I don't sound too wolliish when I try to make some things clear:

- It's not Ikea (etc.) but the pressure by the Greens that causes the parking fees. Stores and malls are forced to introduce fees in order to make customers use public transporation, which, in view of the location of those big stores, will never work.

- It's a funny Swiss German peculiarity that "Glace" is pronounced as if it were spelled "glacé." The opposite applies to the French word "panaché," which is pronounced like "panache" when used in Swiss German. Languages never are logical.

- I spent about a year and a half in an unnamed mediterranean country (hint: starts with "G-" and ends with "-reece"). After a lot of very practical experience with their look-through toilet paper (read: crap under my fingernails) I realized that I prefer Swiss toilet paper anytime. Same in the USA, by the way: They traveled to the moon decades ago, but they still can't make a toilet paper that doesn't need being folded eight times. Now that's what I call wasteful.


Hahaha!! I liked the bit about the crap under your fingernails! Come to think of it, we just use more paper which is probably equally wasteful.

(I sometimes get a feeling from your posts that you are annoyed and/or insulted :msncrazy:... I hope it is not the case and you are just being sarcastic.)

As far as parking in big stores goes, I think it's not the customer who should pay the state for the parking but the shop. Like you never charge your house guests for nibbling on the peanuts in the bowl. It's proper hospitality and politeness. It's really absurd to pay 200 CHF for stuff in IKEA (or Migros or Coop) and still pay 2 CHF for parking. If I were a big retailer I would include the cost of the parking in the prices and only allow people to park for free if they have spent let's say more than 15 Francs (just to avoid people from neighboring lots to park on my lot). It's important to make your customer feel welcome and feel that he's being rewarded by a brand that he trusts, especially in the European culture where every Rappe has a purpose (see "Take care of the penny and the pound will take care of itself").

Nevertheless I am sure that the money you pay is spent for a good purpose. The Swiss have convinced me about this from the first day.

Captain Greybeard 23.09.2011 21:25

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Siorys (Post 1351102)
Hahaha!! I liked the bit about the crap under your fingernails! Come to think of it, we just use more paper which is probably equally wasteful.

(I sometimes get a feeling from your posts that you are annoyed and/or insulted :msncrazy:... I hope it is not the case and you are just being sarcastic.)

As far as parking in big stores goes, I think it's not the customer who should pay the state for the parking but the shop. Like you never charge your house guests for nibbling on the peanuts in the bowl. It's proper hospitality and politeness. It's really absurd to pay 200 CHF for stuff in IKEA (or Migros or Coop) and still pay 2 CHF for parking. If I were a big retailer I would include the cost of the parking in the prices and only allow people to park for free if they have spent let's say more than 15 Francs (just to avoid people from neighboring lots to park on my lot). It's important to make your customer feel welcome and feel that he's being rewarded by a brand that he trusts, especially in the European culture where every Rappe has a purpose (see "Take care of the penny and the pound will take care of itself").

Nevertheless I am sure that the money you pay is spent for a good purpose. The Swiss have convinced me about this from the first day.

Toilet paper: Yeah, you needn't tell me that. My American OH uses about a roll every other day even in Switzerland, just because she grew up with the American next-to-nothing paper.

Me, sarcastic? Never. No, now seriously, I just like to make fun of things and people on both sides of the Atlantic.

As for parking fees at big stores -- I think you didn't get the point. Green circles (which is not necessarily the Green Party alone) talk cantonal and local governments into forcing stores to collect parking fees from the car drivers. They want to hurt the drivers at their most sensitive spot, the wallet. They believe they can make them think twice before they use the car for shopping. They believe the possibility of saving a CHF or two is an incentive for automobilist to leave their car at home and go to the mall by train, tram, bus etc..

Which proves that intelligence or knowledge of human nature are not necessarily essential requirements to become a politician.

nickatbasel 23.09.2011 21:31

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Is that Kloten in the Dutch sense of the expression?

Quote:

Originally Posted by meloncollie (Post 1343203)
I stepped off the plane expecting Heidiland.

Instead, I found Kloten.


Wollishofener 24.09.2011 12:29

Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Siorys (Post 1351102)
Hahaha!! I liked the bit about the crap under your fingernails! Come to think of it, we just use more paper which is probably equally wasteful.

(I sometimes get a feeling from your posts that you are annoyed and/or insulted :msncrazy:... I hope it is not the case and you are just being sarcastic.)

As far as parking in big stores goes, I think it's not the customer who should pay the state for the parking but the shop. Like you never charge your house guests for nibbling on the peanuts in the bowl. It's proper hospitality and politeness. It's really absurd to pay 200 CHF for stuff in IKEA (or Migros or Coop) and still pay 2 CHF for parking. If I were a big retailer I would include the cost of the parking in the prices and only allow people to park for free if they have spent let's say more than 15 Francs (just to avoid people from neighboring lots to park on my lot). It's important to make your customer feel welcome and feel that he's being rewarded by a brand that he trusts, especially in the European culture where every Rappe has a purpose (see "Take care of the penny and the pound will take care of itself").

Nevertheless I am sure that the money you pay is spent for a good purpose. The Swiss have convinced me about this from the first day.


What you suggest above will NOT be accepted by the Greens. They will NEVER agree to the parking lot being paid by the shop. They adamantly insist on those who park their cars paying.
--- ADD to this that your recipe would be absolutely unjust to the users of Public Transport.

If we here speak about "the Greens" you have to realize that we not only speak about members of the GP and GLP but also about those many clandestine "Greens" in all the other parties.

Further on realize that also quite many shops in "Zürich-Suburbia" have a majority of customers arriving by Public Transport. And as an example, the Glattzentrum-ShoppingCenter now has a TRAM-station right in its center. Line 12 connects Schwamendingen-Stettbach (almost 10 S-lines) with Glattzentrum, Glattbrugg and the Airport. And in addition to this, Glattzentrum is served by many bus-lines. If you see the big numbers entering the Center that way, you realize that this is an important aspect.

Wollishofener 24.09.2011 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nickatbasel (Post 1351167)
Is that Kloten in the Dutch sense of the expression?

Under pressure from the Netherlands, mostly from KLM (meaning: Königliche Luft-Matratze), Zürich-Airport dropped "Kloten" from its name around 1960 , and the postal address of the Airport is "CH-8058 Zürich-Flughafen" ;)


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