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Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed

So I am a huge fan of EF and I like the threads about things that are expensive and all that, but I thought it would be interesting to find out what misconceptions you have about coming here. In short, what things were you told or read about that simply weren't true when you finally got here?

I was told that it was very hard to find peanut butter and that if I found it it would be expensive. Not true, 3.50 chf and you can even get it at gas station Migrolinos.

These are supposed to be personal misconceptions because they may not be the same experience for everyone.

Example: I was told I cannot get a credit card on an L permit, but I received 2 from Credit Suisse. While this was a misconception for me, it might be truth to someone else.
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Old 17.09.2011, 13:31
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The shop at my small hamlet sells fabulous and proper brown sugar, hurray.
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Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed

I thought the Winters in Zurich would be colder and harsher...
I thought everything would be more expensive, but not as expensive as it is.
I thought cheese and bread would be better.
I thought my working days would be shorter and more relaxed.
I thought the lake would be colder...
I thought wrong...
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Old 17.09.2011, 13:51
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Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed

I thought CH was all Chalets and farms, was surprised to find cities
I thought people in the street would be so friendly and outgoing, definitely was so wrong
I though it would be so ethical, neutral and fair, all i found was cartels, xenophobic and corrupt.
I thought working here would be more chilled out, relaxed and more creative, definitely it's the opposite.
I thought i would have a better life style than i had back home, definitely CH was degrading of my life style / career
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Old 17.09.2011, 13:53
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Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed

Relaxed working days as a preconception? In the land of trains and banks and clocks and banks? Why?
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Relaxed working days as a preconception? In the land of trains and banks and clocks and banks? Why?
Silly me, having spent time in France and the Netherlands on a lazy 35 hour week, I thought Switzerland was in Europe with respect to work ethic/hours/sodding around all day getting paid well.
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Old 17.09.2011, 14:01
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Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed

I thought

-parking on the street (and I don't mean in the bigger cities) was free
-full-time English teaching posts (EFL) existed
- going to the cinema didn't cost so much
- long-distance trains within the country didn't cost this much, or at least there would be long distance buses at a good price
- just the thought of doing laundy wouldn't cause panic attacks
- at least Mcdonals would be cheap
- people in Zurich didn't smoke this much and everywhere!!!
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"you can only have one dog" (rofl)

"no credit card company will let you carry a balance" (lies)

"you have to carry cash because you can't use your bank card for Point of Sale transactions" (I'm still laughing at that one)

"Trams are so convenient so you don't need a car" (we can debate this one again)

"you won't find creamy peanut butter" (rather that they don't sell it at Migros)

"it's rude to take a bottle of water/soda/juice with you to a meeting" (maybe it is, but I stopped caring)

"nobody wears tennis shoes unless they're going to the gym" (hahaha)
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I thought people in the street would be so friendly and outgoing, definitely was so wrong
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in small villages people in the street are friendly and outgoing but in the cities, just as in cities elsewhere, people go along their own affairs

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I though it would be so ethical, neutral and fair, all i found was cartels, xenophobic and corrupt
> cartels ? exist everywhere. The relative exception in Europe is Germany which in 1949 under the dictate of General Julius Clay, the commander of the Western Zones, introduced a decent anti-cartel leglisation
> neutral ? I think you misunderstood the term. The country/nation is and has to be neutral, but NOT the people
> xenophobic ? just the 10 to 25% as elsewhere

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I thought working here would be more chilled out, relaxed and more creative, definitely it's the opposite
> why should working here be chilled out and relaxed ?? there is absolutely no reason for this. Quite to the contrary, the customers of both the export industry and of inbound tourism expect Switzerland to preform supremely which means a considerable pressure
> creative ? yes and no. on one side, it is obvious that the sense for innovation and creativeness suffers if you have problems to fufil the demands of your customers. At the other hand, Switzerland is on the records with a considerable number of innovations and Swiss industry shows quite some creativeness all the time

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I thought i would have a better life style than i had back home, definitely CH was degrading of my life style / career
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In such considerations, you quite obvious were not aware of and so never considered why so many Swiss either short-term or long-term go abroad to improve their lives (careers) ..... and you apparently have never realised why most Swiss people going abroad for either business or tourism so eagerly try to bring life-style back home ! I mean, if I compare what was the boring and dreary lifestyle of the Zurich of the 1950ies and 60ies with what it is today, I can only marvel about the tremendous progress achieved. True, in the 1960ies and 70ies, ZHers went to Geneva to experience "le savoir vivre" and a "Légčre lifestyle" and to experience liberal freedoms in those times far from standard overhere

*** so that there are two conclusions
A) you simply overestimated the career-chances in Switzerland in general and in Geneva in particular ... and did not see that Swiss went abroad and/or emigrated in order to get ahead
B) that lifestyle does not depend on money but on "cultural values". To give you an example. The Godfather of my brother was a highly successful businessman and a millionaire. My Godfather was not rich, but in his long years of an international career had acted as a semi-diplomat in WWII in Budapest and had lead an interesting life. The, to use the words of the reverend at the burial in Geneva, "la personlité éxtrčmement riche de Mr Ch.... S..." not only as long as he lived but since then and always was and is a source of inspiration for me. And his style was unique
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Old 18.09.2011, 05:39
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Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed

I moved to Switzerland thinking I would work again... did not know it was mission impossible.
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in small villages people in the street are friendly and outgoing but in the cities, just as in cities elsewhere, people go along their own affairs

> xenophobic ? just the 10 to 25% as elsewhere
...it's about misconceptions he had about Switzerland...it's irrelevant about "elsewhere"....

my misconceptions
- I never thought that bosses would/could scream at you at work...
- I thought that "customer is king" would also apply here, at least not getting yelled, "sighed" or "roll-eyed" at in restaurants and stores
- people would have more common sense...
- that people here would be more happy/satisfied since it's one of the richest countries in the world
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I thought CH was all Chalets and farms, was surprised to find cities
I thought people in the street would be so friendly and outgoing, definitely was so wrong
I though it would be so ethical, neutral and fair, all i found was cartels, xenophobic and corrupt.
I thought working here would be more chilled out, relaxed and more creative, definitely it's the opposite.
I thought i would have a better life style than i had back home, definitely CH was degrading of my life style / career
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I was told that it was very hard to find peanut butter and that if I found it it would be expensive. Not true, 3.50 chf and you can even get it at gas station Migrolinos.
Peanut butter has been easily available since the 'fifties, but it cannot be compared to the stuff you get in the USA.
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Peanut butter has been easily available since the 'fifties, but it cannot be compared to the stuff you get in the USA.
My guess: There are hundreds of Swiss expatriates in the US moaning in a forum that they thought peanut butter would be better there and that they miss the good undefeatable best ever COOP peanut butter.
Just a guess.
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Re: Personal Swiss Misconceptions Revealed

i thought that the choice of crisps would be as wide as in the uk - i obviously didnt know this country's obsession with paprika

i thought the chocolates would be better

i could never imagine that cheese would be SO good

(hmmm...i just realise that all my thoughts are food related )
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My guess: There are hundreds of Swiss expatriates in the US moaning in a forum that they thought peanut butter would be better there and that they miss the good undefeatable best ever COOP peanut butter.
Just a guess.
Maybe. And they may complain about the lack of real brown sugar too. Taste always is a matter of taste.
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...what things were you told nor read about that simply weren't true when you finally got here? ...
I wasn't told or read about this, but simply presumed that ...

As there are lots of cows, I thought the beef steak would be cheap.

As there are lots of dairy farms, all the dairy products would be available, but I can't find the Clotted cream for my scone!!
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