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Re: (Potential) Life In Geneva....Yay or Nay?

I have another suggestion. I may not live in Geneva, but my home city is also the home of many international organizations---and it has also been accused of being boring. But there's always the option of driving or taking the train to New York on the weekends. According to Google, Zurich is closer to Geneva than New York is to D.C. You might want to consider the option of taking periodic short trips to Zurich if you think Geneva is too boring.
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I have another suggestion. I may not live in Geneva, but my home city is also the home of many international organizations---and it has also been accused of being boring. But there's always the option of driving or taking the train to New York on the weekends. According to Google, Zurich is closer to Geneva than New York is to D.C. You might want to consider the option of taking periodic short trips to Zurich if you think Geneva is too boring.
I don't think that is really an option. Zurich is too far away and if you don't know people there what would be the point? From geneva you can get a TGV to Paris in 3 hours.
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Re: (Potential) Life In Geneva....Yay or Nay?

Lived in Geneva for 9 months, I like it, it is clean and safe compared to where I am from, and there is fun to be had.. not the same as London or NY but its a small place in comparison.. The summer in particular was probably the best summer I have had in years.. weather and the fete..

I have a small child and I find it family friendly and loads of fun for her.. I can't speak for a single..

Sorry if it goes against the grain for a constructive response..
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Re: (Potential) Life In Geneva....Yay or Nay?

everyone says it's boring
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I have another suggestion. I may not live in Geneva, but my home city is also the home of many international organizations---and it has also been accused of being boring.
Derwood Maryland is close enough to DC for a single 20something to have fun (speaking from experience).
I wouldn't put Geneva in the same sphere, by a long shot.

Go somewhere exciting. Work hard, play hard.
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Old 24.09.2011, 23:50
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Go somewhere exciting. Work hard, play hard.
where do you suggest?
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Old 25.09.2011, 04:09
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Derwood Maryland is close enough to DC for a single 20something to have fun (speaking from experience).
I wouldn't put Geneva in the same sphere, by a long shot.

Go somewhere exciting. Work hard, play hard.
I wasn't saying that I considered it boring, but others might---particularly others who are used to the night life in New York. For example, the New York subway system runs 24/7, but the Washington Metro doesn't. Even when I was younger, I wasn't the type to go to nightclubs and party until dawn, but for those who do, New York and other cities are better than D.C.

I can't say how good or bad Geneva is, but if the OP has a great job opportunity there and the ONLY thing bad about it is that Geneva is "boring", I think he should take the job unless he is confident he can get something better in London, Paris, or Berlin. (I don't think anybody ever accuses those cities of being boring.)
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I don't think that is really an option. Zurich is too far away and if you don't know people there what would be the point? From geneva you can get a TGV to Paris in 3 hours.
On paper, it looked like Zurich was an easy drive from Geneva, but that's only on paper. Your suggestion of taking the train to Paris is better than mine of driving to Zurich.
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where do you suggest?
Live in Lausanne and commute to Geneva by train for work?
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How is the city for a single male in his early 20s?
Soul destroying.
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On paper, it looked like Zurich was an easy drive from Geneva, but that's only on paper. Your suggestion of taking the train to Paris is better than mine of driving to Zurich.
It's not a bad drive. Autoroute all the way. The only hassles are roadworks and heavy traffic during the holiday season - the A1 is a major artery for all the Dutch and Germans heading south and with only two lanes it can get choked.

Personally, if I didn't need the car in Zurich I'd take the train. Journey time is about the same and the service is frequent..
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Soul destroying.

Haha, this is what I would be anticipating. Well, I don't have fluency in the local language and the Expat population there seems to mainly consist of older people than myself, many with families and French cross-border commuters (sorry if this is totally incorrect...it's just the impression I get).

I personally found Zurich to be a rather sterile place to live in, as well as being difficult to integrate and have much in the way of any fulfilling social life.
I'm getting the opinion that Geneva is even worse in these regards, based on what I've been hearing...


May I ask you if your comment comes from your personal experiences??
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Haha, this is what I would be anticipating. Well, I don't have fluency in the local language and the Expat population there seems to mainly consist of older people than myself, many with families and French cross-border commuters (sorry if this is totally incorrect...it's just the impression I get).

I personally found Zurich to be a rather sterile place to live in, as well as being difficult to integrate and have much in the way of any fulfilling social life.
I'm getting the opinion that Geneva is even worse in these regards, based on what I've been hearing...


May I ask you if your comment comes from your personal experiences??
A lot of younger people work at the UN and other international organisations. For social activity in Geneva, you should check out another website which may not be mentioned on this forum.
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May I ask you if your comment comes from your personal experiences??
Well from limited personal experience... i.e. a handful of weekend visits... the place feels more cold than it actually is in the winter... and is prohibitively expensive for socialising and housing... this will lead to you being cold, skint and with a social circle that doesn't go beyond people from work and expats... I hear good things about Lausanne but no personal experience... maybe you should go that way...
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I liked it because of it's proximity to the French Alps and lots of outdoorsy stuff to do. I've never been a party animal but even so I found it quiet. I lived there for 3 years and spent 12 weekends actually in Geneva (and thought that was 11 too many).

If you can find anything to do on a Sunday in November, let me know as I am still curious.

Some of the of 20-somethings in my office said there was a bit of nightlife but you had to work hard to find it.
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I've always thought that's the legacy Calvin's left to the city, I mean, working very hard without leaving time to have any fun whatsoever. The city is fairly nice though, and if you have a family and a more relaxed lifestlye there are probably plenty of things to do apart from taking a train or grabbing the car to have fun in Lausanne
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I liked it because of it's proximity to the French Alps and lots of outdoorsy stuff to do. I've never been a party animal but even so I found it quiet. I lived there for 3 years and spent 12 weekends actually in Geneva (and thought that was 11 too many).

If you can find anything to do on a Sunday in November, let me know as I am still curious.

Some of the of 20-somethings in my office said there was a bit of nightlife but you had to work hard to find it.

You are right, the best thing about Geneva nowadays is the fact that you can get away from it so quickly. That was not always so - when I came here for the first time in 1960 the town was much livelier. There were plenty of pubs and cheap restaurants/tea rooms in town and and in the Wednesday Club you could spend a whole evening with English speaking people and the drinks were very cheap.

Most of the old traditional pubs, tearooms and restaurants in the centre are gone because they couldn't afford the rent any more and have been replaced by banks, jewellers, watch shops and both cheap and high-priced fashion shops that you can find anywhere in the world, a depressing sight.

For English speaking people the social life takes place in each others’ homes,in the various religious communities that organise charity bazaars, book sales etc.,in the clubs e.g. the American International Club, there may be others.

I worked for an international organization until retirement and you could sometimes forget that you were in a foreign country because most people you came in contact with were also foreigners.


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Re: (Potential) Life In Geneva....Yay or Nay?

From personal experience: Yay. I have lived there in my early to late 20-somethings (not so long ago). The social contacts are not limited to a certain age group as you might think now. As I remember, especially as a younger person, you'd get into contact with other foreigners - in the beginning these were mostly UN interns in my case. And from there on the social circle expanded to co-workers (often neighbouring France), fellow Swiss-Germans, Romands, friends of friends, co-students...all depending how you seize the opportunities. We found things to do. Attending language class will put you in contact with a group of people as well. Xpats and UN staff or interns intend to leave after short to mid-term... but I doubt that it's only because of boredom. Some contracts simply don't get renewed or they shift to other professional interests.

To spend only a weekend in the city might not help you much in your decision...Geneva has always been a place to me, which grows on you slowly by time...and one doesn't really like in the beginning. Culture and gastronomy offer some variety - to access some other circles than English speaking ones it is however necessary to start learning French. What renders the region more attractive is definitely the connection to the alps (French and Swiss), the lakeside and the airport as a hub to various European cities. I think transport facilities have improved by now, so I don't see a major inconvenience for the move. Looking back, I'd have been more picky about the neighbourhood to live in - probably live in Plainpalais or Seujet.

I think you asked about activities and cultural venues:
Concerts (Aréna, Paléo, Chat Noir), Soccer (Stade de Genève), Ice Hockey, Cinema, Theatre/Stand-up Comedy, Opera, Fêtes de Genève, Pubs, some Clubs and Dance, in Summertime Festivals, Paragliding, Wakeboarding, Swimming, Running, Sailing, in Wintertime Ski resorts, Escalade, Restaurants, Shops, other sports from outdoor to indoor and I was also a happy customer of Fnac.
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Re: (Potential) Life In Geneva....Yay or Nay?

I moved to Geneva from London last December, and I don't find it boring at all. Yes, I miss the London live music scene, and theatre, and eating out isn't as good...

But for nightlife, socialising etc? Plenty to do if you're fairly outgoing and willing to make the effort to start with.

I'm single and late 20's/early 30's (not committing to an actual age ) and I go out a lot - bars, clubs etc. Though it is more expensive than London, but you soon get used to that

I'd say I probably go out more here than I did in London! Though admittedly part of that would be that a large part of my circle in London were married or otherwise settled, whereas I have a lot more single friends here.

Anyway, I think there's plenty to do if you have a sense of adventure - and definitely take up some sports if you want to socialise outside of the expat community - I've met some really cool swiss people through sports clubs.

(and there is another website for expats as well... )
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