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Old 27.09.2011, 11:49
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

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The term "gay" is indeed used in such a way pretty globally these days - thanks in no small part to the internet. I came across this usage myself most often within games (mmorpgs) or gamer forums, sometimes masked as "ghey" () so the naughty word filters are less likely to catch it.
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The term "gay" is indeed used in such a way pretty globally these days - thanks in no small part to the internet. I came across this usage myself most often within games (mmorpgs) or gamer forums, sometimes masked as "ghey" () so the naughty word filters are less likely to catch it.
My grandmother was still using the word "gay" in its traditional meaning "Can you put the gay tablecloth on seeing as Mrs So-ad-so from down the road is coming for coffee."

Gay as in pretty, colourful and cheerful.

My cousin used to almost wet himself trying not to laugh.
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:02
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The term "gay" is indeed used in such a way pretty globally these days - thanks in no small part to the internet. I came across this usage myself most often within games (mmorpgs) or gamer forums, sometimes masked as "ghey" () so the naughty word filters are less likely to catch it.

I guess almost all insultive words and terms would have origins in persecuting a certain group of people, until the term is used so much, it loses it's connection to the demographic it was initially used to attack.
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

I'm not sure that most people using the term 'gay' to mean 'rubbish' or 'bad' really equate it with homosexual people. In the same way that people from the 20's probably didn't associate 'gay' with homosexuals, but rather to mean happy and jolly.

I know growing up in the UK (Midlands) in the 90s, I and all of my friends would use the term 'gay' freely, to mean 'boring' or 'rubbish', without a second thought given to homosexuals, in fact I'm sure we probably as 7-12 year olds didn't have a clue what a gay person was! Does that make using it right? Not really, but I certainly wouldn't think that anyone should get offended by it, language evolves.

Is there such an outcry for example about people using the term "that's a bit of a bummer" or "i'm bummed out about" for our American friends? I'm sure that has evolved in the same pejoritive way as 'gay' has, and if anything, I would think would be more offensive. I would certainly say I found something 'a bummer' if it depressed me, without thinking about it as a derogatory term for a man who has sex with another man.
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:13
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

I think we just went OT. ( Once the gamers arrive it's free-for-all)

@kamarate, so what's the background of your BF dressing like a girl?
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:15
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

...but if you think about it, the current generation of language corruption is all downhill, and meant to take the previous generation with it.
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:19
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...but if you think about it, the current generation of language corruption is all downhill, and meant to take the previous generation with it.
That's what the romans said.... who uses latin nowadays?
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That's what the romans said.... who uses latin nowadays?
The Romans, more or less?
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:22
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...but if you think about it, the current generation of language corruption is all downhill, and meant to take the previous generation with it.
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:24
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That's what the romans said.... who uses latin nowadays?
...the Pope and pedophile priests?
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:26
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...the Pope and pedophile priests?
.. I rest my case....
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:31
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

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Is there such an outcry for example about people using the term "that's a bit of a bummer" or "i'm bummed out about" for our American friends? I'm sure that has evolved in the same pejoritive way as 'gay' has, and if anything, I would think would be more offensive. I would certainly say I found something 'a bummer' if it depressed me, without thinking about it as a derogatory term for a man who has sex with another man.
I've never heard "bummer" to be a term referring to someone who engages in anal sex - never mind some supposed reference to sex between two males - until now. Unless you're saying it started that way in some other English-speaking area of the world and somehow you think someone is supposed to be offended that Americans use it to mean something entirely different...?

That would be a bit like Americans being offended at someone calling a cigarette a fag or something.
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:39
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

Urban dictionary:

bum

1. A homeless person.
2. British/Australian equivalent of "butt".
3. To ****someone up the ****.

A bum bummed me up the bum.
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:43
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

This is kind of OT, but in Polish there is a word which was used by gay haters in the past.
This very word was embraced by the gay community who started to use it as a neutral or even positive word. Now on Polish gay forums this is actually de rigeur to use this word. I think it was a very clever ploy because the word has a positive spin now.
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This is kind of OT, but in Polish there is a word which was used by gay haters in the past.
This very word was embraced by the gay community who started to use it as a neutral or even positive word. Now on Polish gay forums this is actually de rigeur to use this word. I think it was a very clever ploy because the word has a positive spin now.
Same with the N-word in the States.
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:46
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This is kind of OT, but in Polish there is a word which was used by gay haters in the past.
This very word was embraced by the gay community who started to use it as a neutral or even positive word. Now on Polish gay forums this is actually de rigeur to use this word. I think it was a very clever ploy because the word has a positive spin now.
Didn't words like "gay", "fag", and "queer" evolve in the same way?
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:48
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Same with the N-word in the States.
Well, I'm not sure because I would never use the n-word. It can't be used by "outsiders", right?
The Polish word I've been referring to has almost lost its negative connotations, which is very fortunate. I can use it freely talking to my gay friends.
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Well, I'm not sure because I would never use the n-word. It can't be used by "outsiders", right?
Nope. Certainly not when there's black people around, heh. I sometimes fist-bump my fellow honkeys and go "wassup n***a!" No racism, it just sounds cool, let me borrow it! Not hurting anyone.
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The Polish word I've been referring to has almost lost its negative connotations, which is very fortunate. I can use it freely talking to my gay friends.
Yeah, that's a whole step further.
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

How did we get from homosexuals to Polish negros (?).

On topic - for a change - I am not at all surprised that a 20 year old is not that tolerant. I think that late teens are more prone for racism, sexism, any form of political or religious extremism or homophobia. It's natural that you aren't so settled with yourself yet and easier influenced by others.

On a related note - i remember that one guy in high school made a lot of homophobic comments. So often that I wondered why he is so obsessed with the topic. During his first year at university did he have his coming out.
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