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Old 27.09.2011, 12:23
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c'mon, the guy who unleashed this thread was the guy you shoved around.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "unleashed"? I thought I was the one that unleashed the thread...

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I think we just went OT. ( Once the gamers arrive it's free-for-all)

@kamarate, so what's the background of your BF dressing like a girl?
He just likes dressing up...
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:26
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How did we get from homosexuals to Polish negros (?).

On topic - for a change - I am not at all surprised that a 20 year old is not that tolerant. I think that late teens are more prone for racism, sexism, any form of political or religious extremism or homophobia. It's natural that you aren't so settled with yourself yet and easier influenced by others.

On a related note - i remember that one guy in high school made a lot of homophobic comments. So often that I wondered why he is so obsessed with the topic. During his first year at university did he have his coming out.

I do think that's a funny age for many, in many parts of the world as usually that's a time when we're expected to start behaving differently to what we have been.

Time to act like an adult, time to get serious about a job or studies at university.

Time to start being who we are... and some folks either don't quite know yet or are not comfortable with what they feel about themselves for some reason.

So, they lash out, particularly at others who exhibit traits they feel uncomfortable with or are unsure about within.
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Old 27.09.2011, 12:26
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "unleashed"? I thought I was the one that unleashed the thread...



He just likes dressing up...
time for a new bf , I guess...

on an unrelated note..


Haaaaveee you met ouchboy???
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I've never heard "bummer" to be a term referring to someone who engages in anal sex - never mind some supposed reference to sex between two males - until now. Unless you're saying it started that way in some other English-speaking area of the world and somehow you think someone is supposed to be offended that Americans use it to mean something entirely different...?

That would be a bit like Americans being offended at someone calling a cigarette a fag or something.
I bummed a fag once. Put me off smoking forever.
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Old 27.09.2011, 13:55
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He just likes messing up...
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Old 27.09.2011, 14:11
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This is kind of OT, but in Polish there is a word which was used by gay haters in the past.
This very word was embraced by the gay community who started to use it as a neutral or even positive word. Now on Polish gay forums this is actually de rigeur to use this word. I think it was a very clever ploy because the word has a positive spin now.
I've always been curious how the Russian equivilant of "gay" is "light blue".
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Old 27.09.2011, 14:33
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I've always been curious how the Russian equivilant of "gay" is "light blue".
I have found a believable explanation.
I think in Slavic languages blue is a colour of happiness.
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Old 27.09.2011, 16:46
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I bummed a fag once. Put me off smoking forever.
To me that would mean scavving a cigarette, though. I told my boyfriend he has to be careful using that one.

Especially when wearing a dress and heels.
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Old 27.09.2011, 16:47
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To me that would mean scavving a cigarette, though. I told my boyfriend he has to be careful using that one.

Especially when wearing a dress and heels.
I was at a conference in the US onec and told someone I was going outside to smoke a fag. One guy nearly choked on his beer, thought I as going out to shoot a homosexual.
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Old 27.09.2011, 16:52
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I was at a conference in the US onec and told someone I was going outside to smoke a fag. One guy nearly choked on his beer, thought I as going out to shoot a homosexual.

In actual fact the same guy came to work for us shortly afterwards and turned out to tbe the biggest screaming queen you could imagine.


OK, that last part is an exaggeration.
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Old 27.09.2011, 16:54
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In actual fact the same guy came to work for us shortly afterwards and turned out to tbe the biggest screaming queen you could imagine.


OK, that last part is an exaggeration.
I dunno, I have a pretty big imagination....
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Idiots exist everywhere.
Oh Stop being a faggot!
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Old 30.10.2011, 10:33
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

And so it happened again last night. My OH went out dressed as (in his own words) a "slutty, axe-wielding zombie drag queen". He was insulted on 3 separate occasions for "being gay" (I won't count the people who insulted him just because he was wearing a costume - don't get me started on how people in this country don't appreciate fancy dress for the awesomeness it is!). He had a can thrown at him and he said he was genuinely scared at one point because he thought he was going to be attacked.

I don't get it. I really, really don't. Maybe it's just neuch? We spent a large part of the evening with a gay couple who said they never had this problem in Spain. They could walk down the street holding hands and never worried. Here, it's a different story.

My poor boyfriend, he was so excited about wearing a costume. After all the trouble last night, he turned round to me and said "I'm sorry, but I think this is the last time I'm going to dress as a woman in public". I told him I was ok with that. Oh well, at least he won first prize in a fancy dress contest.
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Old 30.10.2011, 10:38
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I don't get it. I really, really don't. Maybe it's just neuch?
Probably so. I think is is easier being visible as a gay person in larger cities, although this does not mean it will not happen. In my language school toilets, SBB train toilets and such places, one can find homophobic graffiti, often in German.
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???? So wait, your Hubby dresses like this and now your complaining about the reaction?

I think this educational video sums it up.




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And so it happened again last night. My OH went out dressed as (in his own words) a "slutty, axe-wielding zombie drag queen". He was insulted on 3 separate occasions for "being gay" (I won't count the people who insulted him just because he was wearing a costume - don't get me started on how people in this country don't appreciate fancy dress for the awesomeness it is!). He had a can thrown at him and he said he was genuinely scared at one point because he thought he was going to be attacked.

I don't get it. I really, really don't. Maybe it's just neuch? We spent a large part of the evening with a gay couple who said they never had this problem in Spain. They could walk down the street holding hands and never worried. Here, it's a different story.

My poor boyfriend, he was so excited about wearing a costume. After all the trouble last night, he turned round to me and said "I'm sorry, but I think this is the last time I'm going to dress as a woman in public". I told him I was ok with that. Oh well, at least he won first prize in a fancy dress contest.
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Old 30.10.2011, 10:46
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???? So wait, your Hubby dresses like this and now your complaining about the reaction?
I just wish these guys could understand what a costume is and stop being such raging homophobes. I told him he could dress as a woman for December 31st as we'll be in England!
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I don't get it. I really, really don't. Maybe it's just neuch? We spent a large part of the evening with a gay couple who said they never had this problem in Spain. They could walk down the street holding hands and never worried. Here, it's a different story.
Yes, here in Barcelona I see so many gays and lesbians going around freely showing their love and affection. I love it. To be in a place where people can be themselves is refreshing.

Once I met a very very old men couple holding hands in the metro and I found it to be the sweetiest thing!
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Old 30.10.2011, 10:53
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

Yikes, should I worry about freaks raging on the little kids wearing costumes for a halloween party tonight (as I assume this was dressing up for a halloween costume contest)? Seriously, if someone tries to rain on their joy in wearing costumes, I might wind up in jail...which wouldn't be optimal.
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

There is a difference between being openly gay and holding hands with your partner, and being dressed in drag, although neither should attract violence or discrimination.

I think the two subjects shouldn't be confused, that's all. The gay men I know probably wouldn't be seen dead wearing a drag costume and most prefer to dress in a fastidiously smart way and take longer to get ready than I do (but that's another story).

I've seen lots of gay couples in and around Zurich both out during the day and so far have never seen any negativity towards them.
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Old 30.10.2011, 10:59
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Yikes, should I worry about freaks raging on the little kids wearing costumes for a halloween party tonight (as I assume this was dressing up for a halloween costume contest)? Seriously, if someone tries to rain on their joy in wearing costumes, I might wind up in jail...which wouldn't be optimal.
I wouldn't worry, I think people understand the idea of Halloween for kids, but they don't get the idea of fancy dress for adults.

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Maybe the people who were aggressive towards your boyfriend weren't homophobic, they were just picking on him because he looked weird (also not good but maybe also not a homophobic attack either).
I agree with the sentiment of your post for sure, but the insults he got were "disgusting effing f*g" etc.
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