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Old 31.10.2011, 10:59
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

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The make-up was the best thing about it, to be honest. And his legs in those heels and fishnets... Mmmm...
Kamarete swings both ways??????
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

I think men should embrace cross-dressing more.
I don't swing both ways but I appreciate a man expressing his feminine side.
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

You must be married to a Swiss guy

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Old 31.10.2011, 11:25
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You must be married to a Swiss guy
No, my husband is Polish.
Anyway, in the Polish edition of X-Factor we had a contestant, who challenged the patriarchal/traditional/Catholic ways of my home country by wearing quite controversial outfits complete with make-up and jewellery. He still gets a lot of hate mail from what I hear. He is an embodiment of androgyny and I find it quite fascinating.

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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

LMFAO! Yes, we had the same thing in the US....... 6 months later he admitted he was gay.



FYI, Swiss men have the highest % of make-up use in the world according to 20Minutes, which is why I thought your man was Swiss.


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No, my husband is Polish.
Anyway, in the Polish edition of X-Factor we had a contestant, who challenged the patriarchal/traditional/Catholic ways of my home country by wearing quite controversial outfits complete with make-up and jewellery. He still gets a lot of hate mail from what I hear. He is an embodiment of androgyny and I find it quite fascinating.

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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

Hi Kamarate,

sorry about your negative experiences

As others mentioned, the situation in the German part of Switzerland is better especially in Zürich. I also think that it's because the Swiss German carachter, they probably don't approve or tolerate "different" people, they just ignore them like they ignore almost anybody else.

I sometimes crossdress, with some friends we go out clubbing around Zürich dressed up in drag queen style. None of us is gay, it's something we do for fun, to be the "queen" of the night.
We have a positive experience. People are friendly, interested and like to have fun with us and very often want to take pictures with us.

Most of the club managers are very keen to have us in their clubs, because the customers are amused We get often free drinks and free entry to the clubs or discounts in exchange for some entertainment for their patrons

Women are very friendly, and men....well all the macho homophobes suddendly are not so homophobes anymore. From men we get curiosity, compliments and some (well quite a lot of them...) ask you if you'd like to go to the restrooms with them (of course when their friends don't see them...) Every night that we go out we leave a trail of destruction and broken hearts behind us

Some men are clearly hostile, but they never bother us, you just see from their faces and from their body language that they are uncomfortable, but that's it. I've never seen any hostility in women.

If you and your bf feel like going out in Zürich with a crazy bunch of freaky trannies just send me a private message.

Of course my invitation goes also to the ladies (the ladies, not the gentlemen) who appreciate the feminine side of us you are welcome for a date.

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I remember when a Tranny was something you could listen to gay tunes on.
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I think men should embrace cross-dressing more.
I don't swing both ways but I appreciate a man expressing his feminine side.
Why is it that when men wear women's clothing it's "cross dressing" but when women wear men's clothing it's called "saving money?"
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Why is it that when men wear women's clothing it's "cross dressing" but when women wear men's clothing it's called "saving money?"
If my husband wanted to start borrowing from my wardrobe to save money he'd have to drop about half his body mass to fit into it. Likewise, if I wanted to help myself to his stuff I'd have to eat about 4000 calories a day for 6 months first...
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Why is it that when men wear women's clothing it's "cross dressing" but when women wear men's clothing it's called "saving money?"
I thought that's called "making money" (read: business suit).

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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

could we hurry up and make it to page 10 so I don't have to scroll past Adam Lambert's overly made-up face every time???
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

There should be more Donovans.
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

Is the discussion really about genders and homophobia.. or is it about making a very personal statement in a rather conservative society ?

I keep wondering what is he trying to say, what reaction is he looking for ?

Imagine one moment that it was a woman who dressed up in a very revealing way with fishnets and heals etc, wouldn't she get a reaction too ?
There would be a response to her attire without the cross-gender issue even coming to mind.

Society is was it is and it's not about to change.
Perhaps the real question has nothing to do with homophobia, but with an individual's right (or not) to self expression ?
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Is the discussion really about genders and homophobia.. or is it about making a very personal statement in a rather conservative society ?
No its not. Thats the point I was trying to make. Even in a tolerant society like San Francisco you would stick out and make your self a target. Personal statements are great. But if people dont know what statement youre trying to get across then they jump to conclusions (as is human nature) and assume youre a flamer.

Blame who ever or what ever you want. But thats the way life is.
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There should be more Donovans.
wow, im impressed about texas. yes, the silence is what matters, so true!
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Re: Is homophobia still an issue in Switzerland?

No.

Not in the Airline Business.
Cabin crew, ground staff, back office, anywhere - no problem.

(Caveat: I'm not actually gay)
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