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Re: I've been EURO'd!

@TitanTurbo now that the others have confirmed that you will be entitled to unemployment benefits in CH, you are covered for the next 18 months. Since you have children you will be entitled to 80% of your last gross salary. There is, however a max limit to what you can get on a monthly basis. Many years ago it used to be CHF8000 pm, may be its more now. Enough time to find another job. Good luck.
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Old 27.09.2011, 17:56
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@TitanTurbo now that the others have confirmed that you will be entitled to unemployment benefits in CH, you are covered for the next 18 months. Since you have children you will be entitled to 80% of your last gross salary. There is, however a max limit to what you can get on a monthly basis. Many years ago it used to be CHF8000 pm, may be its more now. Enough time to find another job. Good luck.
Good point. When I was looking in 2008/2009 you were insured up to a maximum of I think 120k, so 96k gross income at 80%. They do take deductions from this including tax, so your net income whilst on RAV will be lower than the 8k as mentioned by Nyonais.
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Re: I've been EURO'd!

Good luck. Have you already received your EU-B permit for 5 years? Perhaps time for a "buy @TT a drink night"?
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Old 27.09.2011, 18:19
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I believe it is now called "Portable Document U1" and you can get that by completing he following form and sending it to HMRC:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/2005/ca3916.pdf

The best advice though is to go and talk to the local RAV office as soon as possible and arrange an appointment (with someone who speaks English if necessary).

Good luck on the job hunt!
Thanks for the link. Someone else had already sent it to me but it's always good to get confirmation you have the right form!

I'll visit the RAV office tomorrow if possible.
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Good luck. Have you already received your EU-B permit for 5 years? Perhaps time for a "buy @TT a drink night"?
Yes, got my B permit, so that's one thing I think I don't need to worry about immediately.
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Old 27.09.2011, 18:39
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Good point. When I was looking in 2008/2009 you were insured up to a maximum of I think 120k,
I think today's maximum amount is 128 K.
I wanted to share it with OP for the the calculations.
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Old 27.09.2011, 19:34
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Re: I've been EURO'd!

TT10, read through this thread: unemployment regulations [RAV etc. as I am made redundant on 30.03.2011]. It should contain the info you need about unemployment benefits. The crucial point is to start looking for a new job now, and document your search.

Again, good luck!!!
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Re: I've been EURO'd!

I am so sorry to hear about this bit of "news". Have you got room to sublet the flat? That might help a bit. I think staying in CH will give you a better chance of another job with the sector you in.

Good luck and if you do come out on Thursday night, I will buy you a drink!
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Re: I've been EURO'd!

Sorry about your loss of job.

I assume you have worked long enough in UK to qualify for unemployment benefits. Contact HMRC and apply for an E301 Form ASAP. You won't see a single rappen here, before RAV has that form, and when I was in the same situation 2 years ago, it took 2 months before I had it, as HMRC had such a huge backlog. I dont expect them to be faster today, considering the current economic climate.

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Re: I've been EURO'd!

TitanTurbo10, if things come to worse with flat moving and such and you are willing to travel to the @ss of the world, you can crash in my couch

But hopefully everything will be sorted out!

*crossed fingers*
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Re: I've been EURO'd!

Yes, I have the form E301 and I am about to fill it in. I have my P45, and P60 from last year, but can't find my final payslip. But according to the form the P45 can substitute for a lack of final payslip or missing P60s. I aim to get in in the post by tomorrow.

Just updated my CV, not that it was that out-of-date, but I had a patent and a couple publications to add. I usually tweak it for each application.

Thanks Helm! I think I will go with the advice given earlier, to move in and then immediately give my 3 months notice and start looking for someone to take it over. I've had a number of offers of accommodation and they are truly appreciated!

No Viadukt for me this Thursday. I already had plans but I'm sure I'll be there next week. Or maybe I'll show up late....I won't feel too bad showing up a little late on Friday!

EDIT: I have form CA3916 that I fill in to apply for form E301.
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Thanks Helm! I think I will go with the advice given earlier, to move in and then immediately give my 3 months notice and start looking for someone to take it over. I've had a number of offers of accommodation and they are truly appreciated!
No Viadukt for me this Thursday. I already had plans but I'm sure I'll be there next week. Or maybe I'll show up late....I won't feel too bad showing up a little late on Friday!
well, I will see you next week then! btw. have you joined the MV? It is only a small amount and it is worth the money and you can do it online. I have yet to use their services but after reading all the threads here, even with all our wisdoms put together, it is still good to have them on your side.

Chin up, don't sit at home brood and I am always happy to buy you a drink + a bagel!
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Old 27.09.2011, 22:59
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Re: I've been EURO'd!

So sorry to hear this.

I think the company just uses the EURO as an excuse. Isn't it tied at around 1.20 to the CHF?

What a shameful company.

I really hope you will find something better.
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I have 2 kids so RAV should be at 80%
Be aware that it's 80% up to a maximum salary of 126000, and that it applies for up to 400 working days. Should still be enough to live on for a while, for most people.

Other interesting points we found when my wife was out of work a year or so back was that any little bits of part-time work are a) not counted as one of the 400, so your maximum time is extended by a day for any day you work and b) made up to the full amount the RAV would have paid if the work is at a lower rate.

This meant that my wife was able to work as a ski instructor (she qualified during her 'gardening leave' period) for perhaps three hours at 30-odd francs an hour, without being penalised for doing so.

Seems to good to be true? Well, they do insist on you applying for lots of jobs, and doing other stuff, like for my wife attending the german lessons (that they paid for). In effect they're your temporary employer during this period, so you have to do what they say, but TBH we thought that was more than reasonable.

Hope it's only temporary for you, like it was for her.

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Re: I've been EURO'd!

Do they speak english at RAV? My berater refuses to speak anything else than english?
any way you are eledgible for the allocation but than again my RAV berater knows less than what i find on the website of the ambt fur arbeit.
Get registrated with them ASAP and start writing application letters NOW you have to proof you have been looking for a job from the day you get to hear that you are losing your jon otherwise you get extra penalty days(unpaid days and that can easily be 30 days)
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Re: I've been EURO'd!

Just a bit of an update......

I will be going ahead and moving into the new apartment. As part of my relocation the company was going to give me an interest free loan for my deposit, and they were still willing to do that. If I need to leave it I will give the 3 months notice and find a tenant. My initial contract is actually 6-months so I can leave at the end of March without having to find a replacement.

In addition, the company have said they would like to retain me on 20%, which should not affect my RAV (apart from RAV paying me 80% of 80%), and will keep my accident insurance up-to-date. It is the company's intention to return me to 100% if they solve the financial problems before I find another job. But I have been looking and have applied for a few jobs already, as well as contacting some of the recruiters I have connections with. I've filled in the form to request the E301 form but haven't contacted RAV yet as I move on Monday and I won't be in Zurich city so I thought it best to wait until I am in the city that will be handling my case.

So things could be worse. I've actually enjoyed looking at jobs and have seen a few that are really interesting. The challenging thing is explaining why I'm looking for a job so soon after starting this one in a cover letter or on-line application form.

Thanks for all your comments and support. It's made the world of difference, especially being somewhere where I know so few people.
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I wish you all the best in your job hunt.
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Good luck with it all. Hope it works out well for you in the end.
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Re: I've been EURO'd!

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Be aware that it's 80% up to a maximum salary of 126000, and that it applies for up to 400 working days. Should still be enough to live on for a while, for most people.

Other interesting points we found when my wife was out of work a year or so back was that any little bits of part-time work are a) not counted as one of the 400, so your maximum time is extended by a day for any day you work and b) made up to the full amount the RAV would have paid if the work is at a lower rate.

This meant that my wife was able to work as a ski instructor (she qualified during her 'gardening leave' period) for perhaps three hours at 30-odd francs an hour, without being penalised for doing so.

Seems to good to be true? Well, they do insist on you applying for lots of jobs, and doing other stuff, like for my wife attending the german lessons (that they paid for). In effect they're your temporary employer during this period, so you have to do what they say, but TBH we thought that was more than reasonable.

Hope it's only temporary for you, like it was for her.

Cheers
Part time work is credited by how much you earn in relation to your salary, if you do 3 days & only earn 1 days money, the RAV will count as 1 day worked. It works the other way as well so the more you earn the better, upto in your case 79,9%, you then get 80% of the difference so 96% of previous earnings.
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Yes, got my B permit, so that's one thing I think I don't need to worry about immediately.
Very very sorry to hear about your fate. Whatever reasons caused it were not your fault ! Wish you all the best in your endevour to find ways through

And I am very sorry to have to say that much of your predicament was caused by the slow decisionmaking of this country here, which would have had the means to do what was necessary much earlier.

I don't know in what area of business you were in but might encourage you to look around in different fields. Examples ? We all know the one who imports English cheeses to Zurich. So why not starting to import English WINES to Zurich ? Why not starting to import English bicycles to Zurich ? Why not starting to import Maltese wines to Zurich ?

I cannot give you a recipe out of disaster but simply try to encourage you to move ON
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