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Old 28.09.2011, 15:28
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Old 29.09.2011, 22:09
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Never saw an aggressive cow in all my farming years. Playful yes, Aggressive? It's nonsense.

If you get worried smack them on the nose with a stick.
"It's nonsense" ? Mighty big words, I didn't realise that you were there at the time. I'm surprised I didn't see you.

And of course I don't carry a stick when I'm walking, and funnily enough there wasn't much time to search around for a suitable stick at the time either.

Interesting advice from tomberli to not run away, I thought that was only for dogs where it triggers their hunting instinct - the friendly vegetarian cows I'm used to don't have a hunting instinct to get triggered! In that moment I was so surprised, because it was so out of character for what I expected, that I just reacted. I really don't like to think about what would have happened if I'd stood up to the snorting, kicking cow and wagged my finger threateningly at it. It probably weighed 8 times what I do. I imagine it just would have come at me, either pushing me into the electric fence or trampling me under its hooves I guess.

So is the collective advice to always carry a stick everywhere I walk now, just in case the cows are again under the spell of the full moon? I don't want to do that and as I said every time until very recently it hasn't been at all necessary. Or are the cows often like that in Appenzellerland?
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So is the collective advice to always carry a stick everywhere I walk now, just in case the cows are again under the spell of the full moon? I don't want to do that and as I said every time until very recently it hasn't been at all necessary. Or are the cows often like that in Appenzellerland?
A stick can't hurt - just waving it above your head may be enough. I've seen a 'herd curiosity instinct' which fits the description of this episode; something triggers in the herd's mind that there is something very both strange and exciting that MUST be investigated. For example, a hot air balloon on the horizon. I've lived 20 years on a dairy farm, and agree that truly aggressive cows are rare but it can happen. For that case, they are generally individual cows. But I haven't spent much time around 'free range cows', as well as the Swiss varieties and their behavior may vary.
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You should have made some music for them.

Somehow, deep inside, I always knew Spurs Supporters were daft cows...

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Now, a couple of weeks ago I had a completely different experience. The well-marked footpath went right across a field of cows, and as soon as they saw me approaching the fence, two of them turned to watch me intently and looked pretty intimidating. For clarification, no they weren't mothers with young calves. They didn't have big milking udders and no horns. I had to go in, keeping fairly close to the fence, and one in particular started going ape, running in circles and kicking the back legs. I made a hasty run for it and they came right on after me down the hill, sounding like a stampede. I only just made it to the far side and jumped over the electric fence, and they were pretty close behind me, still snorting and staring. I couldn't help thinking that they could have just run right over me and I would have been toast.
they were probably foreign cows. also explains why they didn't have udders since they don't intend to work...
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These seems to be chasing kind:
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Like any animal they are highly protective of their young. Generally in my experience they are pretty docile, and a little curious

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Old 08.10.2011, 10:56
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Some races of cows (do you say race for animals?) are known for their aggressivity. The vallaisanes, the ones fighting to become the queen of the alps each year, are naturally aggressive and those fights are canalized and controled in a ritual way as far as possible but the cows do look for a fight naturally.
I was wearing a red football kit near a Vallaisane once, young one kept trying to charge me...Word to the wise, don't wear red if you're gonna be near cows in the alps ...My father in law (Who works with animals) says most are docile, some like to fight (Like the Vallaisanes)...Calves are the big difference maker, if nearby...Protecting young obviously makes them sensitive to any intruder, even a hiker

Your story is unusual, any pics of the cows?...I'm curious, I'm gonna pass the story along to my father in law today
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A stick can't hurt - just waving it above your head may be enough. I've seen a 'herd curiosity instinct' which fits the description of this episode; something triggers in the herd's mind that there is something very both strange and exciting that MUST be investigated. For example, a hot air balloon on the horizon. I've lived 20 years on a dairy farm, and agree that truly aggressive cows are rare but it can happen. For that case, they are generally individual cows. But I haven't spent much time around 'free range cows', as well as the Swiss varieties and their behavior may vary.
I've heard stories about cow curiosity also. A former employee of mine grew up on a farm that raised cattle. He and his dad would occasionally get the golf clubs out and have a little driving practice in the cow pasture. Within 30 minutes, every cow would be huddled behind him and his dad, watching them tee-off downrange. He said they'd usually have to stop when the bolder ones started knocking over the clubs.
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Mother cows can be unpredictably aggressive. I've lived on a farm too and have seen it myself.
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Old 08.10.2011, 11:48
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Interestingly enough I just read a newspaper article that says cows kill people quite frequently, 3 in Germany this year, and some hikers in Austria and Switzerland within the last two years, sometimes they even kill their owners. Here is a link about cows killing people in the US:

http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/...angerous-cows/
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I was wearing a red football kit near a Vallaisane once, young one kept trying to charge me...Word to the wise, don't wear red if you're gonna be near cows in the alps ...
Sorry FCB, cows are red-green color blind.
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?



Please excuse me for finding this thread hilarious as I am from South Africa.
You should not walk in the parks either I'll have you know.
The squirrels there are also dangerous and have been known to attack
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Oh, and we went cow-tipping in Oklahoma when I was in college. Not a story about aggressive cows, but it was still hilarious to see.
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Sorry FCB, cows are red-green color blind.

EXACTLY!!! So wearing a red jacket around them just makes you look like a walking bundle of leafy-fresh grass (with sunglasses)!!! No wonder they get a bit overexcited!
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Oh, and we went cow-tipping in Oklahoma when I was in college. Not a story about aggressive cows, but it was still hilarious to see.
That's not at all hilarious actually but rather stupid and immature. They can fracture ribs and pierce / rupture their internal organs - if you damage he kidney, liver or spleen you probably killed the animal. Hilarious!
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"It's nonsense" ? Mighty big words, I didn't realise that you were there at the time. I'm surprised I didn't see you.

And of course I don't carry a stick when I'm walking, and funnily enough there wasn't much time to search around for a suitable stick at the time either.

Interesting advice from tomberli to not run away, I thought that was only for dogs where it triggers their hunting instinct - the friendly vegetarian cows I'm used to don't have a hunting instinct to get triggered! In that moment I was so surprised, because it was so out of character for what I expected, that I just reacted. I really don't like to think about what would have happened if I'd stood up to the snorting, kicking cow and wagged my finger threateningly at it. It probably weighed 8 times what I do. I imagine it just would have come at me, either pushing me into the electric fence or trampling me under its hooves I guess.

So is the collective advice to always carry a stick everywhere I walk now, just in case the cows are again under the spell of the full moon? I don't want to do that and as I said every time until very recently it hasn't been at all necessary. Or are the cows often like that in Appenzellerland?
Hmm, now I understand all hikers carry those skiing sticks with them while hiking, even in summers.
Its for the cows....
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Yeah, asked my father in law about it...He says instances of aggressive cows are quite rare...It's more likely, he guessed, that you were too close and either stopped or were staring?...He said their reactions can be similar to dogs but can be easily shooed away too if you're loud and demonstrative...Cows are easily spooked apparently

That or there was a calf you didn't see?
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Up in Jura yesterday, there was a sign about "suckler" cows being very protective of their young.
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

So it is not just us ! We experienced similar aggressive reaction from a cow, my husband ended up with a big hematoma on the forearm... But I guess it was our fault, we stared. And tried to touch (I know, crazy... but we are so use to calm and docile savoy cows...).

But I feel a little bit intimidated by them sometimes when I walk my dog close to their fields...
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