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Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Yeah, I know, unbelievable that the friendly, docile, curious, big-eyed Swiss cows could be anything other than lovable, right? I've done a fair few miles of hiking through Swiss farmland, and over many years have never been frightened of them. Of course I keep my distance and don't surprise them and all that, but as far as I've seen, the worst you're likely to get is a curious lick of the arm if you let them get too close.

Now, a couple of weeks ago I had a completely different experience. The well-marked footpath went right across a field of cows, and as soon as they saw me approaching the fence, two of them turned to watch me intently and looked pretty intimidating. For clarification, no they weren't mothers with young calves. They didn't have big milking udders and no horns. I had to go in, keeping fairly close to the fence, and one in particular started going ape, running in circles and kicking the back legs. I made a hasty run for it and they came right on after me down the hill, sounding like a stampede. I only just made it to the far side and jumped over the electric fence, and they were pretty close behind me, still snorting and staring. I couldn't help thinking that they could have just run right over me and I would have been toast.

So anyway I got my breath back and wrote it off as a one-off, maybe those particular cows were badly kept or overstressed or something. But merely two weeks later, I get another fairly similar (but not quite as life-threatening) experience. Two times in two weeks??? What's going on? And then I read this other thread about the dangers of cows, although that was apparently mothers protecting calves which neither of my cases were.

So what is this? Is it something to do with this time of year? Is it something to do with the time of day (both of these were around sunset time)? Is it something to do with this area (both in AR canton)? Some recent influx of psychoactive cow feed? Anyone else had anything similar?
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Old 27.09.2011, 22:50
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Thought it was a thread about my ex....
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Some races of cows (do you say race for animals?) are known for their aggressivity. The vallaisanes, the ones fighting to become the queen of the alps each year, are naturally aggressive and those fights are canalized and controled in a ritual way as far as possible but the cows do look for a fight naturally.
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Sorry, can't resist this one .

Hmm, cannot get the youtube embed to work, so direct link

http://youtu.be/FQMbXvn2RNI
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Old 28.09.2011, 13:54
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Sometimes they can be aggressive, hard to tell what exactly was the issue there. However, having just completed civil service on an alpine dairy farm I can tell you that there is one thing you should definitely NEVER EVER do around cows - and that is run away from them! Stare them down, show who's boss and if necessary even show a bit of aggression yourself, otherwise you have them chasing you like you described and then it really is not fun anymore. They probably wouldn't intend to actually run you down but the clumsy things often cant stop in time either, especially downhill...
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Old 28.09.2011, 14:00
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

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Aggressive Swiss cows? Only in Zürich on a Saturday night, or so I've heard.


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Not just Swiss cows, my Mum was quite badly injured by a herd of cows in Hampshire. She had the dog with her, but on the lead. She thinks the animals were instinctively protecting their calves, evn though the dog was not threatening or excitable.
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Could you post a pic of what you look like please?!

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So what is this? Is it something to do with this time of year? Is it something to do with the time of day (both of these were around sunset time)? Is it something to do with this area (both in AR canton)? Some recent influx of psychoactive cow feed? Anyone else had anything similar?
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

My family and I were watching a calf being born, from a fence when the farmer told us to be very cautious with Swiss cows, apparently because they have such a close man - cow existence, their herders, milkers etc begin to smell like and are recognised by the herd as one of their own...Another reason they have this big bells on to warn you that you better get out of their way if your amongst or threaten the heard...

On a lighter note Swiss cows are very aggressive, a pint over the head and a slap round the face just for an a** squeeze is well out of order, if that was Essex I would have been bought a pint and pulled
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So what is this? Is it something to do with this time of year? Is it something to do with the time of day (both of these were around sunset time)? Is it something to do with this area (both in AR canton)? Some recent influx of psychoactive cow feed? Anyone else had anything similar?
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

You should have made some music for them.

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Old 28.09.2011, 14:56
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Never saw an aggressive cow in all my farming years. Playful yes, Aggressive? It's nonsense.

If you get worried smack them on the nose with a stick.
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Old 28.09.2011, 15:01
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Raised on a farm - 100 cows - occassionally you'll get one who'll be dangerous & unpredictable - my brother was nearly killed by one - our sheepdog saw the cow trying to gore him and latched onto the cow's nose with every bit of strength the dog had.
Needless to say we've always loved sheepdogs.
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

About eight weeks ago, I drove along a country road in the Little Traverse Bay area of Michigan. There was very little traffic, maybe one car every other minute, so the road in front of us was empty to the horizon (you know those absolutely straight American roads that go uphill and downhill until they disappear in the mist miles ahead), and the next car was about half a mile behind us.

There was a herd of about 30 cows in a meadow on the left side of the road, peacefully grazing some 150 yards from the curb. As our car approached them, of course without the slightest risk of getting close to them without breaking the fence, they all of a sudden began stampeding towards the road. They reached the fence right next to our car and pulled a sharp left, still fully chrarging, followed the car along the fence for another 50 yards or so and then slowed down. In the rear view mirror, I could see them resuming their grazing as if nothing had happened.

No idea what made them do that. It was a stunt of about half a minute without any obvious reason.

I could say I've never experienced such things anywhere else and then take it for a harbinger of the things to happen around December 2012 (ha ha), but similar things did happen to me in the 'sixties in Appenzell Ausserrhoden too. Yes, that's "canton AR" in the OP. Sometimes, walking the dog on the numerous side roads was a little adventure in that, when the dog was on the leash, sometimes whole herds of cows came charging after us. It never happened with the dog running free or without her, but that may have been a matter of coincidence, since there were not very many such incidents anyway.
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Old 28.09.2011, 15:38
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There was a herd of about 30 cows in a meadow on the left side of the road, peacefully grazing some 150 yards from the curb. As our car approached them, of course without the slightest risk of getting close to them without breaking the fence, they all of a sudden began stampeding towards the road. They reached the fence right next to our car and pulled a sharp left, still fully chrarging, followed the car along the fence for another 50 yards or so and then slowed down. In the rear view mirror, I could see them resuming their grazing as if nothing had happened.
They weren't Gary Larson cows were they?


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Old 28.09.2011, 15:52
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Raised on a farm - 100 cows - occassionally you'll get one who'll be dangerous & unpredictable - my brother was nearly killed by one - our sheepdog saw the cow trying to gore him and latched onto the cow's nose with every bit of strength the dog had.
Needless to say we've always loved sheepdogs.
How old was your brother? If a child then what do you expect and if an adult ... where was his stick?
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Old 28.09.2011, 15:57
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How old was your brother? If a child then what do you expect and if an adult ... where was his stick?
He was about 5 at the time - what do you mean "what do you expect ?" Did you miss the bit about being raised on a farm ? He (my brother) was used to handling animals and the animals were used to being handled by him. If you've any experience with cattle you know that they can run faster than you and are vastly more powerful than you are - a stick won't cut it against an enraged cow or bull.
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Re: Aggressive cows in Switzerland?

Maybe a stick is a good idea if you are experienced and know how the cows might react...
But if you haven't any idea and are just out for a walk...
Happened me when I was young too-scaryyyy! Not Swiss cows though.
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Very good grynch, very good. Now run along, nursey has some sweeties for you.
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