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Re: What are your village life non-negotiables?

I live in a little village and these are mine.

1) quiet and peaceful
2) village store (volg)
3) sound of cowbells
4) green spaces/farms abound
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Re: What are your village life non-negotiables?

My non-negotiables?

A village where I don't have to live in constant fear of neighbors' dislike of dogs.

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I live in what I thought would be the perfect village:

45 minute commute by train the the ZH HB, 30 minute drive in the wee small hours of the morning. Easy walk to the train and shops - which include the essentials of life: a great bakery (open on Sundays), an outstanding butcher (who is happy to do American style t-bones and ribs), a Volg, a Spar (which is even open over the lunch hour), the Post and a florist. Green spaces abound, fantastic hiking out my doorstep - and cowbells all around.

Oh, and the second lowest taxes in Switzerland.

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Unfortunately, my worries about the muttley crew trump everything else - social norms and Nachbarrecht being what they are in Switzlerand, there isn't a village in the entire country where we could be certain of being able to live a normal life.

So we are searching a bit farther afield - in Michigan.
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Re: What are your village life non-negotiables?

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Very sorry to hear about your muttley crew worries. What specifically has been the problem?
If/when I eventually find a job, we are intending to live in a village setting not too far from Zurich with our two dogs. From browsing the forum, it seems that life for renters with dogs is becoming increasingly difficult. Has this been your experience?
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Re: What are your village life non-negotiables?

I would just like to live somewhere that doesn't have any cranes (the construction type, not the ornithological type ).

Seems these places are hard to find, even villages have them. Building sites everywhere, and yes I know it's a good sign of prosperity but I can't stand the noise, that's why I moved out to the countryside in the first place
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These are exactly what the Fridolin newspaper predicts for the new city of Glarus Nord in the next few years... (PDF)

(I'll believe it when I see it...)
When I heard about the "Gemeinde-Fusion" in the Canton of Glarus, I was absolutely astonished. It is possibly the most radical such program at least in Switzerland. So that the arguments of "Fridolin" are fairly correct.

In the Canton SZ, the "March" region is already fairly urban and already shows such things, while such may be less the case in SZ-mainland
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Old 07.10.2011, 20:26
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It has been said many times that village life within easy reach of bigger towns/cities can be a better lifestyle than living in the city itself, especially for families with kids.

Having said that, there must be some non-negotiables. Such as:
  • Konditorei within walking distance
  • Volg (Coop?) within 5 minutes public transport
  • Kindergarten and Primarschule
What are yours?
Sounds like a lot for a village (a village is less than three hundred people here).

What you want is a town.

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Sounds like a lot for a village (a village is less than three hundred people here).

What you want is a town.

Tom
Ticino a canton of Switzerland. By federal law, all places of less than 10'000 people are villages, all with more than 10'000 are "cities". There are places of less than 10'000 inhabitants who however already before 1848 had "Stadt-Recht" (city-rights) and so legally ARE cities.
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Sounds like a lot for a village (a village is less than three hundred people here).

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By federal law, all places of less than 10'000 people are villages, all with more than 10'000 are "cities".
Mmmhh. Interesting. Because more than 300 seems too little for the cut off for a village, whereas 10,000 really is a town (and indeed much more than 2000 would be a town for me).

Here we are 1,200 and I consider that to be a big village.
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Brilliant! Whoever wrote that article would do well to take a trip outside Glarus once in a while and maybe visit a real city every now and then (Weesen or Schmerikon don't count...)
Well, I read the article from top to bottom and my guess is that the writer is in Zurich at least once per week, and of course dreams about having a bit of it in his place. In view of the considerable runway of "Mollis-Airport" (did not find the data right now) they might "open up" and approach Mr O'Leary of Ryanair who might be ready to use the place as "Zürich-Süd"

Basically, the analysis is that areas like North-Glarus and Schwyz-March and others ARE on their way to become "satellite cities" of Zürich, Basel-Mülhausen, Bern etc . Those Glarner have reacted preventively by reorganising their structures, well ahead of things to come in the future.

You might have a look at the Ticino/Graubünden/Glarus communities in the Zürich-area, and then look what goes on "overthere" and you will see the full picture
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Re: What are your village life non-negotiables?

I've started a new thread on Glarus Nord... it's worth a whole one of its own, no?
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Re: What are your village life non-negotiables?

only problem with my village is too many tourists in the summer.

Some of the tourists are real townies.
One time my dog was running around in my garden & barking; some tourists wanted to call the police to rescue him. They thought he was trapped & barking to get out - they did not seem to grasp the concept of a private fenced-in garden.
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By federal law, all places of less than 10'000 people are villages, all with more than 10'000 are "cities".
Umm, so what's a town?

To me, 300-20K is a town, but again, that's TiChinese.

Tom
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Umm, so what's a town?

To me, 300-20K is a town, but again, that's TiChinese.

Tom

In German language, town+city is the SAME, it also is the same in French (ville), and the law I mentioned is Federal and so also applies in the Ticino.

I remember the definition we got from our English teacher at LTC London, who said that a place with a Cathedral is a City, one with just normal churches (referring to England)
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I remember the definition we got from our English teacher at LTC London, who said that a place with a Cathedral is a City, one with just normal churches (referring to England)
Oft-quoted, but not strictly correct. Derby, for example, had a cathedral (formerly All Saint's Church) from 1927, but was awarded city status only in 1977. Conversely some cities, e.g. Plymouth, and Birmingham for a while, do not have a cathedral.
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Oft-quoted, but not strictly correct. Derby, for example, had a cathedral (formerly All Saint's Church) from 1927, but was awarded city status only in 1977. Conversely some cities, e.g. Plymouth, and Birmingham for a while, do not have a cathedral.
No rules without exceptions Well, you have to see the problem our good Mr King had. Many of us, a class of NON-English-speakers, asked him about the difference between town and City, as there was none in all "our" languages. As a rough idea, I found his definition always useful. I however have never seen Birmingham but DID visit Plymouth which is a rather special case, to put it most mildly
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Re: What are your village life non-negotiables?

In the United Kingdom, a town may become a city by:

  • being the seat of a bishop;
  • being granted a Royal Charter;
  • custom.
Switzerland, however, is not the United Kingdom.
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My non-negotiables?

A village where I don't have to live in constant fear of neighbors' dislike of dogs.

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I live in what I thought would be the perfect village:

45 minute commute by train the the ZH HB, 30 minute drive in the wee small hours of the morning. Easy walk to the train and shops - which include the essentials of life: a great bakery (open on Sundays), an outstanding butcher (who is happy to do American style t-bones and ribs), a Volg, a Spar (which is even open over the lunch hour), the Post and a florist. Green spaces abound, fantastic hiking out my doorstep - and cowbells all around.

Oh, and the second lowest taxes in Switzerland.

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Unfortunately, my worries about the muttley crew trump everything else - social norms and Nachbarrecht being what they are in Switzlerand, there isn't a village in the entire country where we could be certain of being able to live a normal life.

So we are searching a bit farther afield - in Michigan.
was very to hear of the problems you had with the dog. to be honest, i wasn't sure of what to do when i moved in to this small village. so far, i've just kept to myself and the only person, i've spoken to at all is the woman who owns the local spar.
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Sounds like a lot for a village (a village is less than three hundred people here).

What you want is a town.

Tom
In Aargau, at least these specifications seem to be well correlated with villages with populations in the region of 1500 - 4000. Poulations larger than 4000 definitely do not feel like villages anymore, but the amenities are a lot better. Towns with population between 6000 and 10000 are 'Kleinstadte'.
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Re: What are your village life non-negotiables?

If there's no pub and no grub (or shop to buy it) it's not even a village.
If there's no transport you are out in the sticks, without a bike, someting even worse... best not to mention it.
And if, on top of all that, you have a thousand or more neighbours, all flushing their toilets and running their washing machines and mowing their lawns and giving you lectures, you are REALLY living in the wrong place, no matter what you want to call it!
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In German language, town+city is the SAME
So does that mean that the use of Ort and Stadt is inter changable?
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