Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Daily life  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 26.10.2011, 16:46
Chemmie's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,144
Groaned at 33 Times in 29 Posts
Thanked 4,951 Times in 2,233 Posts
Chemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Quote:
There is no English/French tension in France or any other country I'm aware of. It's largely a myth propagated by UK tabloids and a few brits who can't cope with not being understood when they just speak English loudly and with a faux-French accent.

As in almost any foreign country, locals' attitudes to you will be based mainly on who you are and how you interact with them, rather than what country you're from. If there is a stereotypical English attitude that annoys people (and I'm not aware of one) and you display that attitude then maybe you could perceive an anti-English stance, but in my experience both Swiss and French people, in all areas, are quite happy to welcome you as a person, rather than as an English person, as long as you behave decently towards them too.

Although in answer to your original question - Basel, of course.
Definitely English-French tension in Canada, but no one really cares because Canadians are generally easy going. But most of Canada you will find everything in English and French. Everyone must learn french at school. However in Quebec, this is commonly not the case, as far as some Quebecois going out of their way not to 'understand' english.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 26.10.2011, 17:09
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: I left!
Posts: 58
Groaned at 83 Times in 30 Posts
Thanked 28 Times in 16 Posts
Nielsinzurich is considered unworthyNielsinzurich is considered unworthyNielsinzurich is considered unworthyNielsinzurich is considered unworthy
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Switzerland is very unfriendly in general and if you do not speak German (or French) in particular. If you have a job BEFORE you move you might find it okay but even then it will easily take 3-6 months before someone will rent you a house etc. You only move to Geneva if you work for international institutions like the UN otherwise do not bother. For the Zurich-Basel part if you are a banker you are unlucky, they do not need foreign bankers now, same in Basel in the pharma industry. only if they really need you you might get a job, or if you are uneducated there are plenty of lousy jobs the Swiss don't do themselves of course. But they only give these to people who for sure will do it for many years and that they can control. So if you have a diploma do not even bother. If I was you I would not move to Switzerland before you are sure to have a job
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 26.10.2011, 17:30
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Morgins
Posts: 79
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 38 Times in 26 Posts
skichick has earned the respect of manyskichick has earned the respect of manyskichick has earned the respect of many
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

I think Basel is better than either Geneva or Zurich for an English person. It has changed dramatically in the last 10 years since I arrived. Still will be difficult to rent a place long term without a job. There are sub-lets available though where you can share a flat, that gets you over the issue with not getting a landlord to rent to you directly. Try advertising on the EF to see if anyone knows someone with a spare room for rent.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank skichick for this useful post:
  #24  
Old 26.10.2011, 18:09
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Zürich
Posts: 206
Groaned at 11 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 255 Times in 109 Posts
ukal123 has an excellent reputationukal123 has an excellent reputationukal123 has an excellent reputationukal123 has an excellent reputation
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

My personal opinion is that you might find more expats and foreigners in Geneva but that the Zurich locals will be happier to speak to you in English...
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 26.10.2011, 18:10
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Quote:
View Post
Switzerland is very unfriendly in general
I see this poster is now banned, and I'm not surprised. Where does he get these ideas from?
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 26.10.2011, 18:12
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Quote:
View Post
Definitely English-French tension in Canada,
Er, no. There may be Anglo/Quebecois tension, but I'm sure the limited numbers of French and English people are quite happy there.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 26.10.2011, 18:19
Chemmie's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,144
Groaned at 33 Times in 29 Posts
Thanked 4,951 Times in 2,233 Posts
Chemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Quote:
Er, no. There may be Anglo/Quebecois tension, but I'm sure the limited numbers of French and English people are quite happy there.

Semantics semantics.....true though, was using the term in reference spoken not the nationality. My bad
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 26.10.2011, 18:47
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At home
Posts: 4,167
Groaned at 208 Times in 133 Posts
Thanked 6,403 Times in 2,719 Posts
Faltrad has a reputation beyond reputeFaltrad has a reputation beyond reputeFaltrad has a reputation beyond reputeFaltrad has a reputation beyond reputeFaltrad has a reputation beyond reputeFaltrad has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Quote:
View Post
Semantics semantics.....true though, was using the term in reference spoken not the nationality. My bad
Well, Canadien français and Canadien anglais is the terminology in Québec. Nothing in the way of using other wordings, but those two stand. I'm curious to hear about semantics from the other side.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 26.10.2011, 19:08
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: 1874 Champéry
Posts: 21
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
swisscelt has earned some respectswisscelt has earned some respect
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

I lived in Geneva for 3 months before moving to Lausanne and then Champéry (Valais). I do speak French, but when I first arrived if was very rusty. The Genevois were not as friendly as the Swiss Germans. I have travelled a lot to Zurich (I work in Lausanne) for work and don't speak a word of German, and always found the Swiss Germans friendly and would always prefer to converse in English rather than French (both professionally and socially). Geneva is small and clicky. In summer it's lovely but in winter it's dead as they all head to the mountains. Zurich is bigger and is the only real city in CH. Geneva is a town. Both are international and have their advantages and disadvantages. I'd happily live in Zurich if I took the time to learn to speak the language, but very happy in my alpine village for now! The key to living in any foreign place is to integrate with the locals and learn their language. If you have the time, can you not visit both Geneva and Zurich and get a feel for what you may like? A lot may rest on job opportunities. I am presuming you will be looking for work. Good Luck!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank swisscelt for this useful post:
  #30  
Old 26.10.2011, 19:09
Chemmie's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,144
Groaned at 33 Times in 29 Posts
Thanked 4,951 Times in 2,233 Posts
Chemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Quote:
View Post
Well, Canadien français and Canadien anglais is the terminology in Québec. Nothing in the way of using other wordings, but those two stand. I'm curious to hear about semantics from the other side.

You are correct, people-wise I think in english (the language) they are referred to as Anglophones and Francophones. But French-Canadian is used very frequently to describe the Francophone people and I'm guessing the English-Canadian is also used commonly (although perhaps not correct in details)
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 26.10.2011, 19:34
Papa Goose's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: was Ägeri now Froggeri
Posts: 3,720
Groaned at 191 Times in 160 Posts
Thanked 4,301 Times in 1,819 Posts
Papa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond reputePapa Goose has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Quote:
I see this poster is now banned....... Where does he get these ideas from?
Probably not far from the place you got this one
Quote:
There is no English/French tension in France
I went to Geneva twice and it's proximity to France brought me out in hives, give me Zurich anytime. If you speak neither language getting by in Zurich will be much easier and the Zurchers seem more welcoming than the Genevans from what I encountered. Does that old chestnut of a job not have a bearing though?
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 26.10.2011, 21:14
Sbrinz's Avatar
RIP
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Murten - Morat
Posts: 11,866
Groaned at 563 Times in 354 Posts
Thanked 11,548 Times in 5,941 Posts
Sbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Is Geneva or Zurich the most welcoming for the English?

Both Zurich & Geneva have housing supply problems, resulting in high rents.

For a foreigner I would recommend Basel every time. The people are no less friendly than either Zurich or Geneva, and as it is so close to the borders it is more international, in my opinion it feels easier to like, it seems to be more easy going.

But it would be better to stay in Britain and learn proper high German first, before you come here, you will then be in a much better position, and not be so isolated.

(I have lived in Geneva, Fribourg and in Bern, and I had a Zurich girl friend for over a year).
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Euro project is one of the best and most visionary ones of the last 100 years Tweener Finance/banking/taxation 48 16.09.2011 02:09
So the most attractive Swiss woman is half English?! Rangatiranui Swiss politics/news 75 13.10.2010 22:41
Americans (or the world) believe the most awesome things. SemperEadem General off-topic 19 30.08.2010 16:08
Can someone please explain to me why the UK is one of the most monitored societies? chemgoddess International affairs/politics 97 25.05.2009 21:59


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 13:48.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0