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29.10.2011, 23:45
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30.10.2011, 00:27
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So move to London...
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30.10.2011, 01:09
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | 1 Englishmen are gentlemen (they wait for women to enter a room first and so on) even under beer effect. Swiss men ignore any kind of politeness (they just mind their way others around would transparent) even though they just under Rivella effect. | | | | | -
gentlemen all over the world wait for women to enter a room first (what people do YOU have contact with ? ) | Quote: | |  | | | 2 English people have real humor (not like the swiss: "Italy? Ahahah, mafia!" ... thinking "Ok... and where is the fun?") and have fun in life (they joke and laugh without thinking this would make them less efficient in work or any other social situation). Swiss do not laugh (simply because they do not get jokes, besides not being able of creating one). | | | | | -
again, what people are you in contact with ? | Quote: | |  | | | 3 Though full of foreigners from all around the world, you'll never see any political campaign on posters picturing these strangers as black figures with just very bad intentions. The opposite, English people are even more polite when you look disoriented. From the other side, the swiss one, SVP is the 1 political party of the country... | | | | | -
the SVP only got 27% of the votes this time, and as Switzerland has proportional politicial systems, this does not mean as much as you apparently think | Quote: | |  | | | 4 English people have style, man and women keep updated with fashion though in a personalized way. Elegance and taste, creativity and perfect cut are daily bread for them. They do not wear outdoor clothes unless they go outdoor for outdoor activities. Swiss women feel sexy only in leggins and Louis Vuitton bag or outdoor clothes (even when they go the opera, I saw it personally). Swiss men feel sexy with... do they ever feel sexy??? Maybe that's way they just take anything from the closet with the light off. | | | | | -
sexy ????? | Quote: | |  | | | 5 London offers a huge range of art, exhibitions, museums, nightlife and the English can still be quite modest about it. In Zurich is almost embarrassing how poor is all mentioned before (last year Zurich was rated the 3rd most boring city of Europe, first was Brussels), still the Swiss are so proud of it like it would be the worldwide capital of fun. | | | | | -
As much as I like Zurich, I never would assume that "the Swiss" were proud of Zurich  Such a statement reveals your knowledge about this place ,..................... beside the point that all relevant sources point to places ranging from München over Geneva to Paris and London | Quote: | |  | | | 6 London is huge and with the Olympic Games construction places traffic is even bigger. Still the English can manage and ORGANIZE everything to affect the least possible daily life. Zurich is very small (to be considered a town, not certainly a city) and the traffic is to compare to the rush hours of NY. Should I mention all the construction places for months and months with no Olympic Games coming soon? | | | | | -
Make your mind up. Zurich population wise is as large as a few burroughs of Westminster combined. There is NO difference between "city" and "town" really so that you rather stop making something out of what is nothing. Measured by per capita per square kilometer, Zurich is comparable to Inner London. And if you mention NY, where is the replacement for the WTC Manhattan | Quote: | |  | | | 7 English people are fun, have an healthy concept of privacy and do not judge just according to bank accounts: this means that when they get to know you they do not immediately ask you what kind of job you do, where and then if it's prestigious they keep talking to you, like some Swiss. If they bump into you they do not ignore they almost ripped a shoulder away from you and keep walking like you were just an annoying obstacle on their busy way. The English stop and say "sorry", but smiling and caring if you are still one piece. This happens even if London is 100 times busier and crowded as Zurich. | | | | | > who here does judge according to bank account ?
> who does immediately ask what kind of job you do ?
> who do you bump into into ? people like you ?
> Never heard "äxgüsi" ?
> London 100 times busier ???? No, this is simply wrong. I know London definitely. It is just ONE time busier and a lot LESS crowded as Zurich. So you might start to stop talking complete rubbish | Quote: | |  | | | 9 English are international. Swiss are mountain focused. | | | | | A) "English" are NOT international at all
B) "Swiss" cannot be "mountain focused" as 80% live in areas below 850 meters above sealevel
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30.10.2011, 01:13
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | I love the OP. "Thanks" and "rep" for this line alone: | | | | |
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30.10.2011, 01:32
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gentlemen all over the world wait for women to enter a room first (what people do you have contact with ? )
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again, what people are you in contact with ?
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the svp only got 27% of the votes this time, and as switzerland has proportional politicial systems, this does not mean as much as you apparently think
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sexy ?????
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as much as i like zurich, i never would assume that "the swiss" were proud of zurich such a statement reveals your knowledge about this place ,..................... Beside the point that all relevant sources point to places ranging from münchen over geneva to paris and london
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make your mind up. Zurich population wise is as large as a few burroughs of westminster combined. There is no difference between "city" and "town" really so that you rather stop making something out of what is nothing. Measured by per capita per square kilometer, zurich is comparable to inner london. And if you mention ny, where is the replacement for the wtc manhattan 
> who here does judge according to bank account ?
> who does immediately ask what kind of job you do ?
> who do you bump into into ? People like you ?
> never heard "äxgüsi" ?
> london 100 times busier ???? No, this is simply wrong. I know london definitely. It is just one time busier and a lot less crowded as zurich. So you might start to stop talking complete rubbish 
a) "english" are not international at all
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30.10.2011, 02:28
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | I can imagine some Swiss thinking Zurich 10 - London 0:
1. English women expect courtesies which are too passe. | | | | | WHAT?! Imagine, anyone, anywhere expecting courtesy for any reason...
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30.10.2011, 07:08
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Another point: The OP is confusing London with English. The two words do not go together | The following 4 users would like to thank MarkL2005 for this useful post: | | 
30.10.2011, 07:30
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Much as I hate generalising (all Swiss are etc etc etc...) the OP has really hit a few nails head on albeit with tongue firmly in cheek. It's also beautifully written (even though it's clear she/he is not a native English speaker)
I really can't believe the groans for this post....... I guess you would have to be quite "Swiss" to take this so seriously and take such offence.
Thanks OP for making me smile.
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30.10.2011, 07:31
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | After quite enough time spent in both cities, I smashed on the amazing truth that not all world is like Switzerland (fact which I almost forget when I spent too much time in this country):
1 Englishmen are gentlemen (they wait for women to enter a room first and so on) even under beer effect. Swiss men ignore any kind of politeness (they just mind their way others around would transparent) even though they just under Rivella effect.
2 English people have real humor (not like the swiss: "Italy? Ahahah, mafia!" ... thinking "Ok... and where is the fun?") and have fun in life (they joke and laugh without thinking this would make them less efficient in work or any other social situation). Swiss do not laugh (simply because they do not get jokes, besides not being able of creating one).
3 Though full of foreigners from all around the world, you'll never see any political campaign on posters picturing these strangers as black figures with just very bad intentions. The opposite, English people are even more polite when you look disoriented. From the other side, the swiss one, SVP is the 1 political party of the country...
4 English people have style, man and women keep updated with fashion though in a personalized way. Elegance and taste, creativity and perfect cut are daily bread for them. They do not wear outdoor clothes unless they go outdoor for outdoor activities. Swiss women feel sexy only in leggins and Louis Vuitton bag or outdoor clothes (even when they go the opera, I saw it personally). Swiss men feel sexy with... do they ever feel sexy??? Maybe that's way they just take anything from the closet with the light off.
5 London offers a huge range of art, exhibitions, museums, nightlife and the English can still be quite modest about it. In Zurich is almost embarrassing how poor is all mentioned before (last year Zurich was rated the 3rd most boring city of Europe, first was Brussels), still the Swiss are so proud of it like it would be the worldwide capital of fun.
6 London is huge and with the Olympic Games construction places traffic is even bigger. Still the English can manage and ORGANIZE everything to affect the least possible daily life. Zurich is very small (to be considered a town, not certainly a city) and the traffic is to compare to the rush hours of NY. Should I mention all the construction places for months and months with no Olympic Games coming soon?
7 English people are fun, have an healthy concept of privacy and do not judge just according to bank accounts: this means that when they get to know you they do not immediately ask you what kind of job you do, where and then if it's prestigious they keep talking to you, like some Swiss. If they bump into you they do not ignore they almost ripped a shoulder away from you and keep walking like you were just an annoying obstacle on their busy way. The English stop and say "sorry", but smiling and caring if you are still one piece. This happens even if London is 100 times busier and crowded as Zurich.
8 English can flirt and pretty good. Swiss can stay stiff but not in a good sense.
9 English are international. Swiss are mountain focused.
10 English are human beings and in case of default they laugh about it and go on. Swiss are like my laptop: they keep turning off because of invincible virus. And behind their eye pupils everything is silent, just a buzzing noise in the back gives some vital signs...maybe! | | | | | I'm joining the groan crowd on this bus.
Everything you mentioned just made me appreciate the Swiss more.
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30.10.2011, 07:37
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | I'm joining the groan crowd on this bus.
| | | | | Since when did groaning mean "I disagree" - argue your case if you disagree. Its a good and interesting post I thought
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30.10.2011, 08:02
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err? and which bar would that be??? | Quote: | |  | | | I think i will be banned but i do not know about london but i love zurich night.
and why? I am latin and here you go to a bar you do nothing and you have 3 or 4 beautiful girls to lay down. Crazy. | | | | | | This user would like to thank cricketer for this useful post: | | 
30.10.2011, 09:42
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My first thought when I read the OP was "at least Zurich doesn't have Chavs." When I fly into London on a Friday night, I am guaranteed to see unseemly behaviour on the trip home. Last time it was two mid-20s chavs swinging from the bars in the train.
But anyway, I find people's experience of Zurich is usually related to the stage of life they are at. I've got a wife and kids and we love it here. Even my wife who wasn't so keen at the beginning enjoys Zurich and it's environs now. It's great for days out because a train ride takes you to any number of great places. It's good for kids. I've also had 4 sets of extremely nice Swiss people as neighbours.
(And I am YET to see someone pissing in a street in broad daylight on a Saturday afternoon here.)
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30.10.2011, 09:45
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30.10.2011, 10:13
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I grew up in London, worked in the City, in the West End and in Westminster. I love the place to bits. Every time I notice my homesickness creeping up I go to my home city. But, and this is a big but, after a week or so of not-so-clean hotel rooms, dilapidated buildings and streets, overcrowded stations, expensive rail tickets, packed underground trains and buses, bad food, scruffy people, dirty pubs, stinking traffic,etc., when I set my foot on Kloten's earth I again heave a big sigh of relief.
London is acceptable if you are prepared to spend a lot of money on quality comforts of all kinds (hotels, restaurants,taxis) and if you are content to get your breath of fresh air in the company of swans and ducks.
Narturally there are more museums, theatres, concerts and so on in London than in Zürich - there are also 15/16/17 times more residents.
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30.10.2011, 13:09
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I went on the Heathrow express to central London for a fairly pricey return ticket only to find that the onward connections werent working. I spent best part of 3 hours travelling on the underground to attend a 30 min meeting. Throughout this 3 hour ordeal I was squashed in with hundreds of commuters. I couldnt wait to get out of London.
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | After quite enough time spent in both cities, I smashed on the amazing truth that not all world is like Switzerland (fact which I almost forget when I spent too much time in this country):
1 Englishmen are gentlemen (they wait for women to enter a room first and so on) even under beer effect. Swiss men ignore any kind of politeness (they just mind their way others around would transparent) even though they just under Rivella effect.
2 English people have real humor (not like the swiss: "Italy? Ahahah, mafia!" ... thinking "Ok... and where is the fun?") and have fun in life (they joke and laugh without thinking this would make them less efficient in work or any other social situation). Swiss do not laugh (simply because they do not get jokes, besides not being able of creating one).
3 Though full of foreigners from all around the world, you'll never see any political campaign on posters picturing these strangers as black figures with just very bad intentions. The opposite, English people are even more polite when you look disoriented. From the other side, the swiss one, SVP is the 1 political party of the country...
4 English people have style, man and women keep updated with fashion though in a personalized way. Elegance and taste, creativity and perfect cut are daily bread for them. They do not wear outdoor clothes unless they go outdoor for outdoor activities. Swiss women feel sexy only in leggins and Louis Vuitton bag or outdoor clothes (even when they go the opera, I saw it personally). Swiss men feel sexy with... do they ever feel sexy??? Maybe that's way they just take anything from the closet with the light off.
5 London offers a huge range of art, exhibitions, museums, nightlife and the English can still be quite modest about it. In Zurich is almost embarrassing how poor is all mentioned before (last year Zurich was rated the 3rd most boring city of Europe, first was Brussels), still the Swiss are so proud of it like it would be the worldwide capital of fun.
6 London is huge and with the Olympic Games construction places traffic is even bigger. Still the English can manage and ORGANIZE everything to affect the least possible daily life. Zurich is very small (to be considered a town, not certainly a city) and the traffic is to compare to the rush hours of NY. Should I mention all the construction places for months and months with no Olympic Games coming soon?
7 English people are fun, have an healthy concept of privacy and do not judge just according to bank accounts: this means that when they get to know you they do not immediately ask you what kind of job you do, where and then if it's prestigious they keep talking to you, like some Swiss. If they bump into you they do not ignore they almost ripped a shoulder away from you and keep walking like you were just an annoying obstacle on their busy way. The English stop and say "sorry", but smiling and caring if you are still one piece. This happens even if London is 100 times busier and crowded as Zurich.
8 English can flirt and pretty good. Swiss can stay stiff but not in a good sense.
9 English are international. Swiss are mountain focused.
10 English are human beings and in case of default they laugh about it and go on. Swiss are like my laptop: they keep turning off because of invincible virus. And behind their eye pupils everything is silent, just a buzzing noise in the back gives some vital signs...maybe! | | | | | I think there is a 20:20 flight back to London tonight.... hope you are on it
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30.10.2011, 13:45
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | gentlemen all over the world wait for women to enter a room first (what people do YOU have contact with ? ) | | | | | Swiss ones by the sound of it. | Quote: | |  | | | again, what people are you in contact with ? | | | | | I refer the gentleman to my previous answer. | Quote: | |  | | | the SVP only got 27% of the votes this time, and as Switzerland has proportional politicial systems, this does not mean as much as you apparently think | | | | | Yeah, and that makes total sense. | Quote: | |  | | | sexy ????? | | | | | Thank you so much. | Quote: | |  | | | As much as I like Zurich, I never would assume that "the Swiss" were proud of Zurich Such a statement reveals your knowledge about this place ,..................... beside the point that all relevant sources point to places ranging from München over Geneva to Paris and London | | | | | Again, you're failing to make any sort of coherent point. | Quote: | |  | | | Make your mind up. Zurich population wise is as large as a few burroughs of Westminster combined. There is NO difference between "city" and "town" really so that you rather stop making something out of what is nothing. Measured by per capita per square kilometer, Zurich is comparable to Inner London. And if you mention NY, where is the replacement for the WTC Manhattan  | | | | | Again, you're failing to make any sort of coherent point. | Quote: | |  | | | > who here does judge according to bank account ?
> who does immediately ask what kind of job you do ?
> who do you bump into into ? people like you ?
> Never heard "äxgüsi" ?
> London 100 times busier ???? No, this is simply wrong. I know London definitely. It is just ONE time busier and a lot LESS crowded as Zurich. So you might start to stop talking complete rubbish  | | | | | Swiss people are only interested in these things. They determine if you are on the DU or the SIE list. No Swiss person says Axgusi unless they think that their mummy will find out about it. | Quote: | |  | | | A) "English" are NOT international at all
B) "Swiss" cannot be "mountain focused" as 80% live in areas below 850 meters above sealevel | | | | | Yeah and that makes a lot of sense as well.
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30.10.2011, 15:51
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | Swiss ones by the sound of it.
I refer the gentleman to my previous answer.
Yeah, and that makes total sense.
Thank you so much.
Again, you're failing to make any sort of coherent point.
Again, you're failing to make any sort of coherent point.
Swiss people are only interested in these things. They determine if you are on the DU or the SIE list. No Swiss person says Axgusi unless they think that their mummy will find out about it.
Yeah and that makes a lot of sense as well. | | | | | I guess the real question is, "How many places in Switzerland are there, where you can NOT see a mountain?"
Obviously excluding those where you are inside, away from windows, in groves of trees, hedge mazes, caves, etc.
Top of a mountain, with clouds below you, on lake in fog, dead of night, legally blind,...
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| | Re: London 10 - Zurich 0 | Quote: | |  | | | You've based your comments about two countries on one city in each respective country.
Next you'll be telling us that all Scotsmen wear kilts and Jimmy-hats and always say "och-aye the noo".
Cheers,
Nick | | | | | You mean,.......................... they DON'T???
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