Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Daily life  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 30.10.2011, 18:37
Wollishofener's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Glattbrugg
Posts: 18,978
Groaned at 332 Times in 257 Posts
Thanked 11,715 Times in 6,858 Posts
Wollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

some answers to your verbal attacks may be required

> “Swiss ones by the sound of it” = fairly obvious indeed, and shows your deductive abilities !

But it also reveals that you also in Switzerland can have bad company ! The O.P. might reconsider his/her company

> “and that makes total sense” ??? What does make total sense ? Do you mean my explanation of reality or do you mean the strange assumption that a 26,6% party might be “number 1” ? To be unprecise is not humour, only dullness

> “the Swiss are proud of Zurich” shows that the O.P. apparently believes that “the Swiss” love Zurich and Basel and Bern and Geneva, while nothing could be farther from reality. You might at least include a tiny bit of reality into statements, I mean both the O.P. and you

> who here does judge according to bank account ? > who does immediately ask what kind of job you do ? > who do you bump into into ? people like you ?

> Never heard "äxgüsi" ? Swiss people only interested in these things ? I never met and/or meet people asking me about my bank-account and nobody would answer such a question, and nobody asks you first of all about what job you have. And DU&SIE has nothing to do with your income.

> if you do not hear the “äxgüsi” permanently, you might consult your doctor in regard to your hearing abilities

Last edited by Guest; 30.10.2011 at 21:17. Reason: Removed strange formatting to make post vaguely intelligible, although I can't do anything about the SOH bypass, nor the totally ingrained Swissness that results in EVERYTHING being taken literally.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Wollishofener for this useful post:
  #42  
Old 30.10.2011, 18:48
Wollishofener's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Glattbrugg
Posts: 18,978
Groaned at 332 Times in 257 Posts
Thanked 11,715 Times in 6,858 Posts
Wollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
I guess the real question is, "How many places in Switzerland are there, where you can NOT see a mountain?"

Obviously excluding those where you are inside, away from windows, in groves of trees, hedge mazes, caves, etc.

Top of a mountain, with clouds below you, on lake in fog, dead of night, legally blind,...
Please define what a mountain IS And please define whether you mean top optimal weather conditions or just average conditions
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 30.10.2011, 18:55
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

I always discount sweeping generalizations.

I also find that if the BBC and ITV have a measure of truth in them, the English haven't cornered stylishness anymore than the Swiss have.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 30.10.2011, 19:11
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Don't get me wrong - I just love London, chose the UK to spend most of my life in and loved it- and just cannot keep away for long - and yet, as a Swiss, I know there is good and bad everywhere. There are plenty of really rude men in the UK and London too. My daughter travelled on the train from Surrey to Waterloo during two pregnancies - and none of the suited 'gentlemen' looking like the ones in the books- got up to give her their seat.

Now I've married a true British Gentleman- but they are not that easily available, sorry.

Some of the men I know in CH are true gentlemen too - and I agree with you - they are quite rare here too.

As a Swiss who left aged 19 to go to UK and stayed- I've never ever visited Zurich - but plan to do so soon. However- I don't think I'd try to compare Zurich with London - that would just be silly.
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #45  
Old 30.10.2011, 19:49
ximix's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: UK (formerly Zurich)
Posts: 2,098
Groaned at 22 Times in 21 Posts
Thanked 2,315 Times in 1,179 Posts
ximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
I grew up in London, worked in the City, in the West End and in Westminster. I love the place to bits. Every time I notice my homesickness creeping up I go to my home city. But, and this is a big but, after a week or so of not-so-clean hotel rooms, dilapidated buildings and streets, overcrowded stations, expensive rail tickets, packed underground trains and buses, bad food, scruffy people, dirty pubs, stinking traffic,etc., when I set my foot on Kloten's earth I again heave a big sigh of relief.

London is acceptable if you are prepared to spend a lot of money on quality comforts of all kinds (hotels, restaurants,taxis) and if you are content to get your breath of fresh air in the company of swans and ducks.

Narturally there are more museums, theatres, concerts and so on in London than in Zürich - there are also 15/16/17 times more residents.
Unless I'm being incredibly naive (anything's possible) then in my humble opinion and experience, "bad food, scruffy people" are in evidence a-plenty in Switzerland too and, in fact, exist everywhere. Or, did I miss something? Epic fail if so!
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank ximix for this useful post:
  #46  
Old 30.10.2011, 20:50
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Zurich 1 - London 39
http://www.businessweek.com/interact...worldwide.html

Zurich for me thanks.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
This user groans at for this post:
  #47  
Old 30.10.2011, 21:21
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
i always discount sweeping generalizations.
..........
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 30.10.2011, 22:55
adrianlondon's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 9,131
Groaned at 170 Times in 153 Posts
Thanked 25,643 Times in 6,892 Posts
adrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
Please define what a mountain IS
Big thing. Often covered in snow. They're created here on EF from molehills.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank adrianlondon for this useful post:
  #49  
Old 30.10.2011, 23:11
Wollishofener's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Glattbrugg
Posts: 18,978
Groaned at 332 Times in 257 Posts
Thanked 11,715 Times in 6,858 Posts
Wollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond reputeWollishofener has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
Big thing. Often covered in snow. They're created here on EF from molehills.
Alright. This means that most people in places like Schaffhausen, Winterthur, Zürich, Basel, Olten, Solothurn, Biel, Yverdon etc usually do not see any mountains
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 31.10.2011, 01:18
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
Alright. This means that most people in places like Schaffhausen, Winterthur, Zürich, Basel, Olten, Solothurn, Biel, Yverdon etc usually do not see any mountains
Every day, Wolli, every day they go online:

Quote:
View Post
Big thing. Often covered in snow. They're created here on EF from molehills.
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 31.10.2011, 03:51
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Zug
Posts: 60
Groaned at 5 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts
AVANZA has slipped a little
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
You've based your comments about two countries on one city in each respective country.

Next you'll be telling us that all Scotsmen wear kilts and Jimmy-hats and always say "och-aye the noo".

Cheers,
Nick
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank AVANZA for this useful post:
  #52  
Old 31.10.2011, 12:46
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Zurich
Posts: 87
Groaned at 5 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 48 Times in 17 Posts
DRJC is considered knowledgeableDRJC is considered knowledgeableDRJC is considered knowledgeable
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

I can see where the OP is comming from, but I have to take issue with them on the subject of Swiss ladies and their dress sense.

I find that the female Swiss dress sense is vastly better than the average British lass and that the clothes available in Switzerland are a vastly better cut than in the UK. Zurich serves up some very lovely top totty, London serves up as many swamp monkeys as it does Chelsea totty.

Swiss blokes are definately weird though. Under the age of 40 they seem to fall into 2 catagories. T-shirt/fitted shirt wearing gym monkeys designed to show off the muscles and a studied "I wish I was a Mountie" far away pose or backwards baseball cap wearing New Kids on the Block rejects.

Gotta give it up to Swiss transport though, beats the hell out Britain there!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank DRJC for this useful post:
  #53  
Old 31.10.2011, 13:30
krlock3's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Zürich
Posts: 3,123
Groaned at 48 Times in 35 Posts
Thanked 2,431 Times in 1,156 Posts
krlock3 has a reputation beyond reputekrlock3 has a reputation beyond reputekrlock3 has a reputation beyond reputekrlock3 has a reputation beyond reputekrlock3 has a reputation beyond reputekrlock3 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

As part of a very unscientific study, I would say that those who thanked the OP should consider moving back to the UK, and those who groaned him should consider staying here.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank krlock3 for this useful post:
This user groans at krlock3 for this post:
  #54  
Old 31.10.2011, 13:30
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Zurich Unterland
Posts: 3,315
Groaned at 145 Times in 99 Posts
Thanked 4,850 Times in 1,930 Posts
smoky has a reputation beyond reputesmoky has a reputation beyond reputesmoky has a reputation beyond reputesmoky has a reputation beyond reputesmoky has a reputation beyond reputesmoky has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post

1 Englishmen are gentlemen (they wait for women to enter a room first and so on) even under beer effect. Swiss men ignore any kind of politeness (they just mind their way others around would transparent) even though they just under Rivella effect.

2 English people have real humor (not like the swiss: "Italy? Ahahah, mafia!" ... thinking "Ok... and where is the fun?") and have fun in life (they joke and laugh without thinking this would make them less efficient in work or any other social situation). Swiss do not laugh (simply because they do not get jokes, besides not being able of creating one).

3 Though full of foreigners from all around the world, you'll never see any political campaign on posters picturing these strangers as black figures with just very bad intentions. The opposite, English people are even more polite when you look disoriented. From the other side, the swiss one, SVP is the 1 political party of the country...





9 English are international. Swiss are mountain focused.

10 English are human beings and in case of default they laugh about it and go on. Swiss are like my laptop: they keep turning off because of invincible virus. And behind their eye pupils everything is silent, just a buzzing noise in the back gives some vital signs...maybe!
1...................."Waiting for a woman to enter a room first" is an ancient custom from barbaric days when a woman was thrown into a room first, in case there were enemies inside, in which case she would get the first spear thrust ..... and the man would be warned, and be prepared for a battle!

I have a secret laugh whenever I see a man attempting to hold a door open, from the indoors, with arm outstretched with no counter-balance enabling the woman to squeeze thru the gap before the door closes. It really is a dumb mis-understood practice!

The man should walk thru the door and THEN hold it open for her - a much more gentlemanly manouvre!

Being rude would mean he walks thru the door and lets it swing shut in her face.

.......................

2...............The Swiss do laugh, when they find something funny enough to laugh at.
Unfortunately/fortunately .. their humour is different - much like most countries in the world. I find Irish joke books rather childish, ditto with the South African "van der Merwe" jokes.
For instance, I know, the Swiss will not laugh at "Hitler" jokes.
If one takes the time to make actual friends here, one learns their sense of humour.

........................



3...............Fortunately, again, the Swiss have fairly good governance, because when one political party gets TOO extreme ... they lose their votes, and this keeps a good balance, generally. That could possibly be why everyone seems to want to come live or work here?

........................

9.............. Ha ha ha .... I have english friends who complain about not finding "real" fish and chips here, or in Italy, or France, or Spain .... or their mushy peas .... or bangers, or any "decent" or "real" food. Being international means you take on the culture of the lands you visit or live in ... and learn to eat their food ......huh?
My Swiss friends ate nothing but traditional South African food when visiting South Africa ... and enjoyed it, and now attempt to make their own Boerewors, and buy white maize, eat pumpkins, sweet potatoes, and cabbage, instead of feeding it to their sheep.

The Alps are a tremendous tourist attraction - much like the tourist traps in other countries. Are the english entranced and obsessed by their Big Ben and Castles etc? Cape Town has Table Mountain, just because it is there, and tourists come to see and climb it. Tis natural to have natural attractive landscapes. Nothing to complain about....

...................................

10.......Sometimes, most times, it could be considered rather shallow to just laugh and walk away from a conversation, or question.

Silence could mean they do not understand you? Or what you are complaining about?

One thing I have noticed here is that when the Swiss WORK they concentrate on their work. Leisure time is for laughing and joking.

...............................

One ought to, when in another country, attempt to socialise and learn to understand the culture you have chosen to live and work amongst - it makes life so much more comfortable.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank smoky for this useful post:
  #55  
Old 31.10.2011, 14:13
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Lenzburg
Posts: 75
Groaned at 26 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 61 Times in 17 Posts
CoderMark has no particular reputation at present
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

From somebody who has lived and worked in both places...

I generally find Swiss people more polite, (except for smokers on railway stations... ).

Unless you happen to live in the 'nicer' parts of London, accomodation for many people is abysmal in London.

Both cities are expensive, but in Zurich you still have far more of your salary left in real terms after the necessities are deducted.

Style? - ho hum... whatever that is, last time I was in central London it looked like a fat-chavs convention.... at least in Zurich you don't get mugged if you're wearing a decent cut suit, and the women I have seen here generally dress well and appropriately too, and not like a bunch of primark-clad slappers on a hen-night in England.

The city centre does not seem to be filled with fighting gangs of drunks at night.

Long live Swiss 'Qualitat'
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank CoderMark for this useful post:
  #56  
Old 31.10.2011, 14:23
Sry Sry is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: switzerland
Posts: 44
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Sry has no particular reputation at present
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
After quite enough time spent in both cities, I smashed on the amazing truth that not all world is like Switzerland (fact which I almost forget when I spent too much time in this country):

1 Englishmen are gentlemen (they wait for women to enter a room first and so on) even under beer effect. Swiss men ignore any kind of politeness (they just mind their way others around would transparent) even though they just under Rivella effect.

2 English people have real humor (not like the swiss: "Italy? Ahahah, mafia!" ... thinking "Ok... and where is the fun?") and have fun in life (they joke and laugh without thinking this would make them less efficient in work or any other social situation). Swiss do not laugh (simply because they do not get jokes, besides not being able of creating one).

3 Though full of foreigners from all around the world, you'll never see any political campaign on posters picturing these strangers as black figures with just very bad intentions. The opposite, English people are even more polite when you look disoriented. From the other side, the swiss one, SVP is the 1 political party of the country...

4 English people have style, man and women keep updated with fashion though in a personalized way. Elegance and taste, creativity and perfect cut are daily bread for them. They do not wear outdoor clothes unless they go outdoor for outdoor activities. Swiss women feel sexy only in leggins and Louis Vuitton bag or outdoor clothes (even when they go the opera, I saw it personally). Swiss men feel sexy with... do they ever feel sexy??? Maybe that's way they just take anything from the closet with the light off.

5 London offers a huge range of art, exhibitions, museums, nightlife and the English can still be quite modest about it. In Zurich is almost embarrassing how poor is all mentioned before (last year Zurich was rated the 3rd most boring city of Europe, first was Brussels), still the Swiss are so proud of it like it would be the worldwide capital of fun.

6 London is huge and with the Olympic Games construction places traffic is even bigger. Still the English can manage and ORGANIZE everything to affect the least possible daily life. Zurich is very small (to be considered a town, not certainly a city) and the traffic is to compare to the rush hours of NY. Should I mention all the construction places for months and months with no Olympic Games coming soon?

7 English people are fun, have an healthy concept of privacy and do not judge just according to bank accounts: this means that when they get to know you they do not immediately ask you what kind of job you do, where and then if it's prestigious they keep talking to you, like some Swiss. If they bump into you they do not ignore they almost ripped a shoulder away from you and keep walking like you were just an annoying obstacle on their busy way. The English stop and say "sorry", but smiling and caring if you are still one piece. This happens even if London is 100 times busier and crowded as Zurich.

8 English can flirt and pretty good. Swiss can stay stiff but not in a good sense.

9 English are international. Swiss are mountain focused.

10 English are human beings and in case of default they laugh about it and go on. Swiss are like my laptop: they keep turning off because of invincible virus. And behind their eye pupils everything is silent, just a buzzing noise in the back gives some vital signs...maybe!
Then I'm not the only one who feels nostalgic about London..... London is one of the greatest places in the whole world) unfortunately we are living here but still we have the english humor and the english forum
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 31.10.2011, 14:28
mirfield's Avatar
Moddy Wellies
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 8,729
Groaned at 53 Times in 47 Posts
Thanked 9,942 Times in 3,654 Posts
mirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
As part of a very unscientific study, I would say that those who thanked the OP should consider moving back to the UK, and those who groaned him should consider staying here.
What about those of us that chuckled to ourselves and thought, "This should be entertaining."?
Reply With Quote
The following 7 users would like to thank mirfield for this useful post:
  #58  
Old 31.10.2011, 14:33
Phil_MCR's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 14,989
Groaned at 295 Times in 199 Posts
Thanked 19,057 Times in 8,019 Posts
Phil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
Then I'm not the only one who feels nostalgic about London..... London is one of the greatest places in the whole world) unfortunately we are living here but still we have the english humor and the english forum
Is London the best city in the world?
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 31.10.2011, 14:50
mirfield's Avatar
Moddy Wellies
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 8,729
Groaned at 53 Times in 47 Posts
Thanked 9,942 Times in 3,654 Posts
mirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

I went to London once. I didn't like it.

It reminded me of Zurich.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank mirfield for this useful post:
  #60  
Old 31.10.2011, 14:51
Captain Greybeard's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sarganserland / NW Lower Penin
Posts: 3,516
Groaned at 43 Times in 37 Posts
Thanked 7,410 Times in 2,314 Posts
Captain Greybeard has a reputation beyond reputeCaptain Greybeard has a reputation beyond reputeCaptain Greybeard has a reputation beyond reputeCaptain Greybeard has a reputation beyond reputeCaptain Greybeard has a reputation beyond reputeCaptain Greybeard has a reputation beyond repute
Re: London 10 - Zurich 0

Quote:
View Post
As part of a very unscientific study, I would say that those who thanked the OP should consider moving back to the UK, and those who groaned him should consider staying here.
So far I've never issued a groan, not even to post(er)s who literally made me throw up. Do you really mean I have to break with this tradition of mine to be allowed to stay in my own country?
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
London City Airport in Top 10 for Business Travel Deep Purple International affairs/politics 20 09.03.2011 17:13
Picasso Exhibition starting 15.10.10 - kunsthaus, Zurich jemalis Travel/day trips/free time 2 29.01.2011 13:15
Driving from London to Zurich tomorrow morning (22/4/10) bruce fielding Transportation/driving 0 21.04.2010 17:31


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 14:25.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0