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Old 08.11.2011, 16:06
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I just realised you put you're 190kg so something like this..? http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/...nk-Food-2.jpg/

Sitting on people or their things would do some serious damage, for no reason!
Muscle weighs more than fat, and I think we met at Odile's, I am tall.

I am not wasting any more time on this, you are welcome to your opinions, and you say you behave correctly, so you have nothing to fear.
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Old 08.11.2011, 16:10
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Re: Bags on seats

/me considers travelling the rails of West Suisse with a large spike in a bag...
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The same goes for bags on seats, I sit on them. Why should I have to ask politely for something I have paid for and they have not? If the passengers want to behave like robber barons I will continue to sit on them, and I weigh 190 Kg! Believe me they usually move very quickly to reclaim their luxury handbag or briefcase.

Funnily enough older people do not find the need to claim 2 seats for the price of one.
When it happened to me I felt bad for the lady who sat half on my case for 45mins. I would love to have moved it for her but she would not budge. Now I know there is a good chance she did it on purpose. hmmm...
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Old 08.11.2011, 16:12
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Re: Bags on seats

Fair enough, I have nothing else to say - just think you'd get positive results if you were polite instead. I know people can be rude on the train sometimes. I've had a bunch of old Swiss German pensioners on their hikes push me and my baby out the way even though I was just about to get off the train, had teenagers do the same getting on the train. I've had to ask many times if people could move so I could sit in the special seat with my pushchair. The train can be a real hassle - especially when no one offers to help you on or off with a pushchair, up 3 high steps and bags of shopping, but being rude would never be an option.
For me, the world doesn't work by doing things like that.
Anyway, have a nice day, hope you re-consider next time...
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Old 08.11.2011, 16:16
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I just attempt to slowly sit down on top of their bags, they soon move them out of the way.

One day I was catching a fairly full train, with very few spare seats, a lady was sitting in a window seat with her legs spread across the other seat. I just sat down on her knees. She was furious, and spitting fire told me that polite people ask if the seat was free before they sit down. I told her to piss off, the seat WAS free, which made her even more furious.
i was on the train where across from me was a woman with her shoes off and her feet on the opposite seat. the conductor came and first asked if she knew the woman in the same 4-seat pod, and when she answered 'no' the conductor gave her a stern and lengthy telling off about not putting feet on seats and how it was not very comfortable for the other passengers. i was quite shocked by how stern she was

in another case, i saw two women who did the same thing occupying 4 seats slobbed out with their bags everywhere and their fat smelly legs on the seats. i was going to take a photo of this horrific scene, but was concerned that my camera would be damaged by this.
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Old 08.11.2011, 16:22
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Another train peeve: people who "pretend" to be asleep across both seats, with their head covered (I can't see you so I don't have to move) on busy early morning commuter trains.
surely this is a perfect opportunity to fart on their head!
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Re: Bags on seats

i guess if we find 3 people, we can form a SBB enforcement group. go on a train and even if the train is half empty, we locate someone occupying 3/4 seats for themselves and insist sitting in that 'pod'. if they move, we follow them.
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Old 08.11.2011, 16:28
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their fat smelly legs on the seats.
You do know that people sometimes put their fat smelly arses on those seats too, don't you?
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Old 08.11.2011, 16:34
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Re: Bags on seats

What I find amazing is the number of complaints about this entire subject.

Personally I find that yes people will do their best to keep seats near them unoccupied however I hardly ever experience a case of not being able to sit in the seat when I ask.

All it normally requires is a simple "schöne noch frei?" and all you have to do is ask.
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Old 08.11.2011, 16:37
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It's called communication, folks. Just ask a person if the seat is free and usually they will say yes, move their bags and you get your seat.
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Communication?? Actually, when I just ask a person whether the seat is free I very frequently will get disdain, or even a kind of diatribe that, given my not yet good swiss German, I *luckily* can not fully understand (this later case especially if asking the place next to where two others travel together).

Additionally, there must be a kind of SBB-endemic virus that attacks people that occupies the seat with a bag, since *too many* fall deeply asleep from the very second they sit down to the moment they need to get out.

No, no, no, it is not about communication, come on. I am very happy about this new set of rules!
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I just attempt to slowly sit down on top of their bags, they soon move them out of the way.

One day I was catching a fairly full train, with very few spare seats, a lady was sitting in a window seat with her legs spread across the other seat. I just sat down on her knees. She was furious, and spitting fire told me that polite people ask if the seat was free before they sit down. I told her to piss off, the seat WAS free, which made her even more furious.



`You are Funny" . I use a walking stick sometimes because of a knee injury. No one hardly ever offers me a seat on the train. When I see bags and ect on the seat I just start to push off their stuff with my walking stick. They quickly start to move their stuff. The thing that really annoys me is the People who constantly on the steps with their stuff. They never move out of the way, so my walking stick is also handy to help get them out of the way. Question? Do people get fined for sitting on the steps on the train if they get caught?. They really are a nuisance when you are trying to get off the train in a hurry. Cheers
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Old 08.11.2011, 17:03
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What I find amazing is the number of complaints about this entire subject.

Personally I find that yes people will do their best to keep seats near them unoccupied however I hardly ever experience a case of not being able to sit in the seat when I ask.

All it normally requires is a simple "schöne noch frei?" and all you have to do is ask.
You are right, except the Swiss German part. I think what you mean is, "Isch eine no frei?" That's "Is one still free?" What you wrote is "Pretty one free?", which doesn't make much sense, but if you just mumble it, you'll get through with it.

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You are right, except the Swiss German part. I think what to mean is, "Isch eine no frei?" That's "Is one still free?" What you wrote is "Pretty one free?", which doesn't make much sense, but if you just mumble it, you'll get through with it.
He was referring to the lady in the seat..... not the seat her LV handbag was on.
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Re: Bags on seats

Oops I always get the "ö" and "o" muddled meaning it should have been "schon noch frei" (meaning: "been released yet") The other is also correct I think in swiss

I ask it that way nearly all the time and it passes immediately alternatively I just sit down anyway and dont bother asking which is the benefit of being 191cms high
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Re: Bags on seats

After four years commuting the same commute on the train twice daily, I'm all for legalizing punching people. At the very least we should be allowed to push a big cream cake in their faces.

Bags on seats and the well loved "platform train door crowding" ........ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. One day recently a young girl took up all four seats for herself on a packed morning train - two for bags and two for herself because she had her legs up on the opposite seat. I wouldn't mind but the blocks of four seats after her were also mostly taken up by two people who used all four for their belongings. It was crazy. Half the carriage seating wasn't taken by people with tickets, yet the train was full and the standing areas were mobbed because of these f*****s who didn't lift a finger.
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Oops I always get the "ö" and "o" muddled meaning it should have been "schon noch frei" (meaning: "been released yet") The other is also correct I think in swiss
No, that version would be, "Isch doo no frei?", which means, "Is (this one) here still free?"

"Schon noch frei?" isn't real Swiss German but wrong Standard German, meaning "Already still free?", which, again, doesn't make much sense, neither in English nor in German, although, as mentioned above, it may easily go through as slur. You'll be fine with it, provided those people comply.

The reason why I pointed it out is not pedantry (for once!), but an attempt to prevent wrong sentences being spread on EF. The "I read it on the Internet, so it must be true" kind of thing, you know.
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Old 08.11.2011, 17:54
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Re: Bags on seats

Come on people, lets reduce the aggression and start an EF "isch da frei" thread. Take pics of the selfish refuse's and mumble "es isch für der Blick weisch"
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Come on people, lets reduce the aggression and start an EF "isch da frei" thread. Take pics of the selfish refuse's and mumble "es isch für der Blick weisch"
what?xxxxx
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Old 08.11.2011, 18:00
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I thought I knew what I meant but now I'm not so sure

Well I thought we could start a picture thread of the selfish ones and just tell them we were doing it for the Blick. Sort of thing.
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All it normally requires is a simple "schöne noch frei?" and all you have to do is ask.
Actually, the tram in Zurich is the first place ever I had that question answered with a vile 'Ist Besetzt!!!'. By her bag that is. The only thing I could do was laugh and say 'Deine mutti ist sicher stolz auf dir' (your mommy must be proud of you )
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