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Old 17.11.2011, 13:39
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Re: Swiss love foreigners

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"...the lovers French..."

I'm not sure about that. Anyone here?
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Old 17.11.2011, 13:48
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Swiss youth are much, much more international than some sheltered/clueless expats give them credit for.
How has this not become a thread about Swiss men exploiting foreign women who only want a visa?
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Old 17.11.2011, 14:29
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Re: Swiss love foreigners

.........also because Foreigners love Swiss too
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Old 17.11.2011, 14:31
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.........also because Foreigners love Swiss too
Haha, wish you were right.
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Old 17.11.2011, 18:16
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Haha, wish you were right.
I dunno, I love my Swiss man plenty and many of my friends and family are in awe of his Swiss-ness.

I spent a spring working at one of the larger hotels in Daytona, there was a group of Swiss guys who came for Bike Week... all the girls were very "ga-ga" (swooning and drooling) over their accents, looks and style.

Of course, it is possible (likely) that gals in more cosmopolitan areas would be less impressed but for our sleepy sea-side town, even with it's frequent tourism, it's not very common to see Swiss for some reason. Germans yes, "especially" for Bike Week, Swiss, for some reason, not so much.


Going back a bit, I feel like perhaps you were offended by what I said / didn't say in my previous post in this thread. I dunno (or care) how much inbreeding actually happens here among humans, I just wanted to point out that if there is, it's hardly exclusive to Switzerland anyhow, at least from a historical stand point.
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Old 17.11.2011, 18:32
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I dunno, I love my Swiss man plenty and many of my friends and family are in awe of his Swiss-ness.

I spent a spring working at one of the larger hotels in Daytona, there was a group of Swiss guys who came for Bike Week... all the girls were very "ga-ga" (swooning and drooling) over their accents, looks and style.
This is quite possibly plausible, I have female friends here who often remark that the Swiss men are attractive and dress well. They are very attracted to Swiss men. They tell me their issue is spending 5mins with them is very boring, let alone a a whole date, week or god forbid life time!

I am sure there a some good ones though
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Old 17.11.2011, 18:47
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Maybe when the Swiss finally figure out what their partners are saying to them after a couple of years of marriage, you'll understand why the divorce rate is one of the highest in the world.
tss tss, do you mean to say that the Swiss are perfect ?
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Old 17.11.2011, 20:25
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Italian-speakers marry Italians.
My wife is an Italian speaking Swiss, but I am NOT Italian!

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P.S. Technically, we are both Swiss-German, though neither of us speak it!
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Old 17.11.2011, 21:01
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Just an observation from living in small village land.

In addition to the residents of the nearby home (who are severely handicapped), I personally know several, and am aware of other families, with at least one member of the household with special needs.

It is no accident that the Swiss themselves have a saying, along the lines of:
"The closer to the mountains, the more stupid the people"

According to the statistics I found CH has 14% of the populations considered "disabled" which is slightly below the EU average of 16%. I did find stats per country in EU but not per region of CH.
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What you forget is that Switzerland is a small country, but is part of a heavily populated continent, with whom there has been a lot of mobility for a very long time. For example, since 1900, there have never been less than 5% of foreigners in Switzerland (which is higher than what many european countries have now) and only between 1935 and 1955 the percentage of foreigners was lower than 7.5%.From 1900 to 1920 the percentage was higher than 10% (15% in 1915) and since about 1965 the percentage has never been lower than 15%.
You're right but figures for Switzerland are skewed due to lower and slower naturalization rates than in countries like France. If Switzerland had a quicker naturalization policy the stats would drop five or ten points. It would still be high, though.
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Old 17.11.2011, 23:59
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Re: Swiss love foreigners

If people in Germany or France marry people from a 200 km radius it will be compatriates. If people from the population centres of Switzerland do the same it will inevitably include "foreigners"
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You're right but figures for Switzerland are skewed due to lower and slower naturalization rates than in countries like France. If Switzerland had a quicker naturalization policy the stats would drop five or ten points. It would still be high, though.
I'm not sure why % of foreigners came up in this discussion. I think I lost the plot.

But before the changes in the law (either in the 80s or 90s, can't remember) a foreign woman married to a Swiss man automatically became a Swiss citizen, IIRC. And of course France's process wasn't always so easy either. These things change over time.
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Re: Swiss love foreigners

Swiss love foreigners-are you really sure about that?
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Hello,

I wanted to share a quote from a very interesting economist article I just found:

"... the intriguing marriage patterns of the Swiss. The country has one of the highest rates of international marriage in the world (surpassed only by Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and Cyprus). But the Swiss “marry out” in particular ways. The German-speaking Swiss marry largely neighbouring Germans; the Francophone Swiss marry the French; Italian-speakers marry Italians. It is the same with Belgians: Flemish-speakers tend to marry Dutch partners, Walloons marry French people. Language, it appears, remains a persistent barrier to international marriage in Europe and the spread of English as a second language does not seem to have changed that."
Swiss love foreigners-are you really sure about that?


I guess that the impression that Swiss citizens tend to keep to themselves is not totally true

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Re: Swiss love foreigners

far away from home
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that's ok, you're a salesman after all.
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Old 25.11.2011, 17:25
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Re: Swiss love foreigners

From a cross-section of my male colleagues:

Swiss man + Swiss woman = 4 with 5 kids
Swiss man + Thai Women = 3 with 8 kids
Swiss man + Indonesian Woman = 1 with 1 kid
Swiss man + Taiwanese Woman = 1 with 2 kids
Swiss man single/gay/bi- = 3 with 0 kids

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We are all have international airline background and travel/travelled worldwide regularly.
In a 5* Hotel bar on a hot summer's night in an exotic destination, we are all much more attractive and interesting to talk to - inhibitions go quickly.
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Old 25.11.2011, 17:45
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Re: Swiss love foreigners

Dont have enough perspective, but the few Suisse we lnow seem to mind their own business, and dont welcome foreigners... Maybe they feel invaded... Even their campaign reflects no voting rights To immigrants...
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Old 25.11.2011, 18:14
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Re: Swiss love foreigners

Personally, I've lived here for 6 years, and my girlfriend for 5 years. We both "hate the swiss" because of our living arrangements - noisy, uncaring neighbours who bang about all the time, and have a huge sense of entitlement to the washing machine.

But, in a country, with average 20% non-swiss residents, and 40% in the Geneva region, I must logically reach a conclusion that I am dealing not necessarily with Swiss people. It doesn't make sense that, just because I am living in Switzerland, I am dealing with the Swiss.

I worked in an international environment, and the Swiss people I dealt with were - without exception, in my experience - polite, reserved, logical but welcoming in their own way which, as a foreigner, I need to be open and meet in the spirit it is intended. Not wanted to start a new discussion about the noise-habit neighbours in this rabbit-hutch situation in this town ( Geneva ) I think most Swiss people are nice.

I think you meet a-holes from every nationality, and I think I am just unlucky with my neighbours ...
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Young, educated and well-travelled Swiss are much more likely to have a foreign gf than our slightly more local peers. The only friend I have who's never had a foreign gf is a car mechanic in the village I grew up in.
Swiss youth are much, much more international than some sheltered/clueless expats give them credit for.
That is why there are so many freely available Swiss girls ; I had wondered why
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Maybe this is why the Swiss marry foreigners...
Love this shirt... I guess Swiss feel a little invaded too. There are cities where Swiss people is a minority, and their anti- immigration voting right campaigns shows how concerned they are about control and real risks...but I understand them, as if you see many other countries, they are loosing control!
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