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smackerjack 07.10.2007 21:49

In the Clink
 
Has anyone have any idea what life is like in a Swiss Jail?

Mikey 07.10.2007 21:58

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Originally Posted by smackerjack (Post 113363)
Has anyone have any idea what life is like in a Swiss Jail?

There has to be more to this question .............. what have you been caught doing :D

smackerjack 07.10.2007 22:04

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I,m looking for a cheap stay in Switzerland:rolleyes: With perhaps some good entertainments thrown in, sky, playstation etc and also maybe possibilities for a degree course

Mikey 07.10.2007 22:11

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Originally Posted by smackerjack (Post 113368)
I,m looking for a cheap stay in Switzerland:rolleyes: With perhaps some good entertainments thrown in, sky, playstation etc and also maybe possibilities for a degree course

With the lack of cheap accomodation in Zürich that might be a shrewd move.

I did hear that for some crimes you are actually allowed to work during the day and then return to prison at night. Maybe you can find out which crime best suits your needs.

smackerjack 07.10.2007 22:27

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Originally Posted by Mikey (Post 113369)
With the lack of cheap accomodation in Zürich that might be a shrewd move.

[I did hear that for some crimes you are actually allowed to work during the day and then return to prison at night. Maybe you can find out which crime best suits your needs.]

I was thinking of making off with a large consignment of chocolate (cremetta):msntongue: or perhaps some low fat paprika crisps!

telandy 07.10.2007 22:31

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They are offering me 24 days in lieu of a CHF2400 fine for speeding. I have been wondering myself. Statistics say that they are full of non Swissies! I will probably end up paying the fine!!

smackerjack 07.10.2007 22:37

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Originally Posted by telandy (Post 113377)
[They are offering me 24 days in lieu of a CHF2400 fine for speeding. I have been wondering myself. Statistics say that they are full of non Swissies! I will probably end up paying the fine!!]



Oh......go on!!! Do the time don't pay the fine. Imagine the tales that you will have to tell and you can answer my question

gooner 07.10.2007 22:59

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does doing the time count as a conviction?

Shorrick Mk2 07.10.2007 23:01

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Originally Posted by gooner (Post 113384)
does doing the time count as a conviction?

I think it does - you are convicted anyhow, it's the sentence that's different.

Shorrick Mk2 07.10.2007 23:04

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Originally Posted by telandy (Post 113377)
They are offering me 24 days in lieu of a CHF2400 fine for speeding. I have been wondering myself. Statistics say that they are full of non Swissies! I will probably end up paying the fine!!

If I may, most of them are not really the kind of non-Swissies you'd like to meet....

I am being told our local jail in Geneva is far from a five star hotel, since the number of inmates is almost 3x the design number. So probably you are going to have to share that Playstation...

Polorise 08.10.2007 07:29

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alternatively, you can pop across the border into Austria, get up to mischief there & head off to thei 5 * prison

combining a holiday in a top rated venue with keeping your card clean in Switzerland, whilst satisfying your desire to go to pokey... :)

(also read the comments at the foot, some of these guys should be in EF)

NicM 08.10.2007 08:25

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that is amazing, i wonder how the rehabilitation rates compare to other similar countries? that is a much better idea then throwing kids who made extraordinarily silly mistakes into a cage; this just breeds contempt where there was only ignorance before.

on a lighter note, it looks a darn sight better then some of places i have stayed in.


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Originally Posted by Polorise (Post 113436)
alternatively, you can pop across the border into Austria, get up to mischief there & head off to thei 5 * prison

combining a holiday in a top rated venue with keeping your card clean in Switzerland, whilst satisfying your desire to go to pokey... :)

(also read the comments at the foot, some of these guys should be in EF)


Nathu 08.10.2007 12:28

Re: In the Clink
 
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Originally Posted by Mikey (Post 113369)
With the lack of cheap accomodation in Zürich that might be a shrewd move.

I did hear that for some crimes you are actually allowed to work during the day and then return to prison at night. Maybe you can find out which crime best suits your needs.

If it bothers you that many appartments have only three regular moving dates per year, keep in mind that with the new Swiss penal law, prison sentences under six months are a rarity now (smaller offenses are now punished with fines).

About half of the cantons allow work outside prison under certain circumstances when more than half of the penalty time has passed.

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Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 113388)
If I may, most of them are not really the kind of non-Swissies you'd like to meet....

I am being told our local jail in Geneva is far from a five star hotel, since the number of inmates is almost 3x the design number. So probably you are going to have to share that Playstation...

According to this article (German) the capacity of Swiss prisons is mostly in use with a high average of 93%. Four out of five inmates are foreign.

Champ-Dollon is the tip of the iceberg, running at outrageous 180% of its intended capacity. Regrettably it has been like this for eight years now because of incompetent politicians and a different mentality of judges in Geneva (more inmates in remand).

Brianb_ie 08.10.2007 12:38

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Originally Posted by telandy (Post 113377)
They are offering me 24 days in lieu of a CHF2400 fine for speeding. I have been wondering myself. Statistics say that they are full of non Swissies! I will probably end up paying the fine!!

Hi Telandy

Are you sure thats correct? Normally they say that doing the days in Jail does not exempt you from paying the fine. At least this is what was said on a tram fine i'd seen before. Would be harsh to do 24 days in jail and come home to a 2400 fine :)

Blonaybear 08.10.2007 13:11

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Originally Posted by smackerjack (Post 113368)
I,m looking for a cheap stay in Switzerland:rolleyes: With perhaps some good entertainments thrown in, sky, playstation etc and also maybe possibilities for a degree course

You can study for a degree while in prison. I know of a case where a prisoner studied for a degree with assistance from a local university, including regular visits from a professor, and he duly obtained a degree.

DeadLast 08.10.2007 13:27

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Originally Posted by Shorrick Mk2 (Post 113388)
So probably you are going to have to share that Playstation...

I'm reminded of scenes from Stir Crazy...

Colonelboris 08.10.2007 13:44

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There was that chap who spent his time studying for a doctorate in neuroscience, who then successfully used his knowledge at an appeals court to show he couldn't have caused the brain injury to the person that got him in prison in the first place.


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