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Old 22.01.2012, 00:15
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This is the first time I had ear punch. So this is freshly punched earring hole. To take it off not properly can cause injury and high risk of infection.
Is an ear punch the same thing as a normal ear piercing? I am confused. Ear punch sounds much more violent...
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Old 22.01.2012, 00:18
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As I said, the Manor staff tried, but she can't take it off. How do you think I can and I should do it better?
Easy. Pointer finger behind the ear, thumb in front, rest of the hand grabs the earring from below. With extreme suddenness, pull downwards. Problem solved.
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Old 22.01.2012, 00:20
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Easy. Pointer finger behind the ear, thumb in front, rest of the hand grabs the earring from below. With extreme suddenness, pull downwards. Problem solved.
Didn't realize you had an earing (or more), dude! (despite having met you)

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Well you weren't really clear if you had already tried to get them out yourself and I didn't understand that "weren't able to" means that they couldn't actually get then out or that they were not allowed to take them out for you. There is a subtle difference.

Anyway, I find it easier to remove my own earring rather than someone else and maybe she just wasn't really trying. Did the manager try as well? If she really did squeeze them in too tight and even you can't get them out, I wouldn't wait to go to a tattoo place. You probably need to go to a doctor.

I hope they don't hurt at least. Keep cleaning them every night with alcohol until you see a doctor.
At least, she tried to take it off. I'm not sure whether they are really allowed to do it. Since Manor made the mistake, I think it's their responsibility to fix it. I can't see the point that I should try to do it by myself and take the responsibility of potential consequence.

The manager didn't try. He just tried to send me away. In his words, I should be happy with these free earring, shouldn't go to disturb them. They can't take it out and not able to pay for the fee of Tatoo shop neither.

Thank you for your concern. I do cleaning and disinfection everyday.

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Is an ear punch the same thing as a normal ear piercing? I am confused. Ear punch sounds much more violent...
Sorry. I don't know.

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Old 22.01.2012, 00:36
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At least, she tried to take it off. I'm not sure whether they are really allowed to do it. Since Manor made the mistake, I think it's their responsibility to fix it. I can't see the point that I should try to do it by myself and take the responsibility of potential consequence.

The manager didn't try. He just tried to send me away. In his words, I should be happy with these free earring, shouldn't go to disturb them. They can't take it out and not able to pay for the fee of Tatoo shop neither.

Thank you for your concern. I do cleaning and disinfection everyday.
I am sorry, but what consequences are you asking about? This is a teeny tiny hole in your ear, not a big ring across your chest.

Wash your hands, hold the front part of the earring with one hand and the butterfly in the back of your ear with the other hand.

Pull hard from both side. It will come off. When done, disinfect the lobe, the new earring and put it in.

That's all! I had 3 piercing in each lobes and one in my belly button. Not much consequences in changing them...
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Easy. Pointer finger behind the ear, thumb in front, rest of the hand grabs the earring from below. With extreme suddenness, pull downwards. Problem solved.
It seems you can do great job to train this staff in Manor. Then she will not how to fix the problem of next mistake.
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Old 22.01.2012, 00:36
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Re: Manor. Could you be more disappointing?

Sorry you had a bad experience there tutuzhu. Without making too sweeping of a generalization, it seems rather common here for people to get the brush-off when making a claim against bad service. What they are used to is customers tucking their tails and wandering off; there's a good chance if you raise a stink there they might make some more effort. Will they pay to have your earring work done at a tattoo parlor?- probably not (not without getting all lawyer-y on their butts), but you might get something, a gift voucher, who knows- but something to shut you up!

You have to decide if it's worth the stress though. Duck into a tattoo-piercing shop and see what they say can be done. Perhaps it should come out, heal, and be redone, or maybe they can fix it with gold.

And word of caution to avoid future heartache: never buy berries at Manor- and check all expiration dates. They like to sell berries that go moldy as you walk out the door, meat that expires the same day (with no discount), and dry goods that are weeks past their expiration date. All for a premium price over Coop and Migros (who, to be honest, aren't much better in the berry department!).
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Sorry you had a bad experience there tutuzhu. Without making too sweeping of a generalization, it seems rather common here for people to get the brush-off when making a claim against bad service. What they are used to is customers tucking their tails and wandering off; there's a good chance if you raise a stink there they might make some more effort. Will they pay to have your earring work done at a tattoo parlor?- probably not (not without getting all lawyer-y on their butts), but you might get something, a gift voucher, who knows- but something to shut you up!

You have to decide if it's worth the stress though. Duck into a tattoo-piercing shop and see what they say can be done. Perhaps it should come out, heal, and be redone, or maybe they can fix it with gold.

And word of caution to avoid future heartache: never buy berries at Manor- and check all expiration dates. They like to sell berries that go moldy as you walk out the door, meat that expires the same day (with no discount), and dry goods that are weeks past their expiration date. All for a premium price over Coop and Migros (who, to be honest, aren't much better in the berry department!).
Thank you for your concern and notice. I guess I'm not the only one had this kind of bad experience with Manor. It's might be one reason some people in this forum are interested in this topic.

After this experience, I'm not interested to buy anything from Manor, no matter they offer gift voucher or discount.

As I mentioned before, mistake can be accident, but the irreponsibile attitude for mistake has nothing to do with accident. I'm disappointed.
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Old 22.01.2012, 00:55
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At least, she tried to take it off. I'm not sure whether they are really allowed to do it. Since Manor made the mistake, I think it's their responsibility to fix it. I can't see the point that I should try to do it by myself and take the responsibility of potential consequence.

The manager didn't try. He just tried to send me away. In his words, I should be happy with these free earring, shouldn't go to disturb them. They can't take it out and not able to pay for the fee of Tatoo shop neither.

Thank you for your concern. I do cleaning and disinfection everyday.
I do remember when I got my ears pieced (a long, long time ago!) that their was a sort of indent in the earring post near the back end that keep the back stop thing on securely so they don't fall out.

I'm guessing they are the same as back then. I remember that you really have to get your nail in to push the back off and sort of "pop" the backs out. It's not easy. I think it might be more difficult for someone else to take them out for you. I don't think you can screw the out. You really have to "pop" them out.

Before you go to the tattoo shop or the doctor see if you can't get the earrings out yourself.

Sorry you're having problems with something that should have been fun.

Good luck. I hope you get it sorted out.
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Old 22.01.2012, 01:37
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Re: Manor. Could you be more disappointing?

Seem to be an awful lot of newbies around at the moment with "controversial" posts.

Are they all real?
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Old 22.01.2012, 08:31
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Seem to be an awful lot of newbies around at the moment with "controversial" posts.

Are they all real?
Make more seditious rumours like that, and wake up in Siberia... er... sorry, a remote part of Sweden
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Old 22.01.2012, 08:43
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As I said, the Manor staff tried, but she can't take it off. How do you think I can and I should do it better?
You mean you'll be buried with these still in there??
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Old 22.01.2012, 09:15
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Picture of the piercing or that never happened....
I've been told by a very reliable source* that there's a video of Assassin's adventure on youtube.

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At least, she tried to take it off. I'm not sure whether they are really allowed to do it. Since Manor made the mistake, I think it's their responsibility to fix it....
Possibly. If Manor really do have a duty of care, and would be expected to resolve the problem, then go to a tattoo place, get the earing removed, pay the bill, then issue a bill to Manor's head office, with a nice letter explaining why they have to reimburse you. If they fail to pay, then starting the dunning process, and eventually you can argue your case before a magistrate. You don't need a lawyer for this.

If taking an earing out is something you should be able to manage yourself - which on the face of it, seems highly probable (search for "how to remove an earring" on youtube) - then the magistrate is likely to take a dim view, you'd lose and you'd have to pay costs.

On balance, you may not like the way Manor has treated you, but they quite possibly done nothing wrong. They have already rectified their mistake by not charging you for the service. You seem quite young. Maybe it's time to learn that the world doesn't always work as you'd like it to, and you can't always get your own way. Bad things happen. Learn from it. Move on.

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Old 22.01.2012, 09:46
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I've been told by a very reliable source* that there's a video of Assassin's adventure on youtube.

Possibly. If Manor really do have a duty of care, and would be expected to resolve the problem, then go to a tattoo place, get the earing removed, pay the bill, then issue a bill to Manor's head office, with a nice letter explaining why they have to reimburse you. If they fail to pay, then starting the dunning process, and eventually you can argue your case before a magistrate. You don't need a lawyer for this.

If taking an earing out is something you should be able to manage yourself - which on the face of it, seems highly probable (search for "how to remove an earring" on youtube) - then the magistrate is likely to take a dim view, you'd lose and you'd have to pay costs.

On balance, you may not like the way Manor has treated you, but they quite possibly done nothing wrong. They have already rectified their mistake by not charging you for the service. You seem quite young. Maybe it's time to learn that the world doesn't always work as you'd like it to, and you can't always get your own way. Bad things happen. Learn from it. Move on.

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Long time ago, I used to work in a bar and one of our barman had a bet with a couple of customers. Basically, the couple was going to have a piercing (on a nipple for her) and a tattoo (for him).

My then coworker lost his bet and had to get his penis pierce. After a good amount of alcohol, he crossed the street to the piercing place and got the job done.

I saw the result, can confirm the story. he used to show it to everybody! (before someone think something else...)
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Old 22.01.2012, 11:08
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Thank you for your concern. I do cleaning and disinfection everyday.

How will you go to work? As you said, you can't leave it in if you work around MRI equipment.

You need a mirror where you look behind your ear. Then you will know what you need to pull at to remove this foreign object. If you haven't got one, get someone to help you. I think the trouble is not being able to see what you are doing.
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Old 22.01.2012, 11:32
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I've been told by a very reliable source* that there's a video of Assassin's adventure on youtube.

Possibly. If Manor really do have a duty of care, and would be expected to resolve the problem, then go to a tattoo place, get the earing removed, pay the bill, then issue a bill to Manor's head office, with a nice letter explaining why they have to reimburse you. If they fail to pay, then starting the dunning process, and eventually you can argue your case before a magistrate. You don't need a lawyer for this.

It sounds reasonable. I can't help to assume you had similar experience or you used to work in Manor or some shops else. No offend.

If taking an earing out is something you should be able to manage yourself - which on the face of it, seems highly probable (search for "how to remove an earring" on youtube) - then the magistrate is likely to take a dim view, you'd lose and you'd have to pay costs.

It's not just take earring off as usual. It was just punched within 24 hours, which means that it was not healed, not even close to. For example, if you need to remove the band-aid which covers a bleeding hand, is different from the procedure to remove the band-aid from the good hand. I hope you can understand the difference now.

On balance, you may not like the way Manor has treated you, but they quite possibly done nothing wrong. They have already rectified their mistake by not charging you for the service. You seem quite young. Maybe it's time to learn that the world doesn't always work as you'd like it to, and you can't always get your own way. Bad things happen. Learn from it. Move on.

Send me away and push the responsibility to me is not enough to solve the problem. It's nice that they tried to solve the problem. I appreciate that. But trying to solve the problem but failed, does it mean that it's not their mistake anymore?
I agree that world has its rule. I respect it. If you mean that Manor's attitude to solve problem is intrinsic rule of the world, I'm not able to agree. In this logic, everyone can escape from the consequence of mistake after trying to solve the problem.



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Old 22.01.2012, 11:32
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This is the first time I had ear punch. So this is freshly punched earring hole. To take it off not properly can cause injury and high risk of infection.
This is easy.

1. Get on a shetland pony
2. Ride through woods
3. Pony takes off in a gallop
4. Takes you through low hanging branches
5. Earring gets caught and pulled off
6. Shetland pony runs out of steam
7. Problem solved.

This is much easier than getting the fire department involved.
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Re: Manor. Could you be more disappointing?

More seriously speaking, I never heard that you get gold earrings when you first had your ear pierced. That's the way they did it in the olden days, when my mom was young. Nowadays they have these little machines (like when they mark cow ears) and they shoot this thing through your earlobe. It is always stainless steel and you're not supposed to take it out for a certain period of time to prevent infections.

So I would be more worried about the Manor staff that 1) didn't inform you and 2) fumbled around on a new piercing, probably with unwashed hands.
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As you work with an MRI I'm guessing you work with a bunch of doctors and nurses. Maybe ask one of them to help you?
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