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Old 22.01.2012, 12:57
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More seriously speaking, I never heard that you get gold earrings when you first had your ear pierced. That's the way they did it in the olden days, when my mom was young. Nowadays they have these little machines (like when they mark cow ears) and they shoot this thing through your earlobe. It is always stainless steel and you're not supposed to take it out for a certain period of time to prevent infections.

So I would be more worried about the Manor staff that 1) didn't inform you and 2) fumbled around on a new piercing, probably with unwashed hands.
Absolutely. The shops like Manor use 'guns' with a special sterilized pointy earring that is actually doing the piercing. This way no needle is involved and it's 'safer' for the staff to use.

Normally you keep these earring for 2-3 weeks, cleaning the area with disinfectant twice a day. You then remove them (yourself!!!) and replace them with whatever earring you want.

I've got 3 holes on each side in my ears, all done thanks to this technique. This is the way things are done in Switezerland.

I guess Manor's mistake was not warning you they were not equipped to pierce your ears with golden earrings.
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Absolutely. The shops like Manor use 'guns' with a special sterilized pointy earring that is actually doing the piercing. This way no needle is involved and it's 'safer' for the staff to use.

Normally you keep these earring for 2-3 weeks, cleaning the area with disinfectant twice a day. You then remove them (yourself!!!) and replace them with whatever earring you want.

I've got 3 holes on each side in my ears, all done thanks to this technique. This is the way things are done in Switezerland.

I guess Manor's mistake was not warning you they were not equipped to pierce your ears with golden earrings.
They have golden earring for ear punch. And ordered the golden one from them.

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Absolutely. The shops like Manor use 'guns' with a special sterilized pointy earring that is actually doing the piercing. This way no needle is involved and it's 'safer' for the staff to use.

Normally you keep these earring for 2-3 weeks, cleaning the area with disinfectant twice a day. You then remove them (yourself!!!) and replace them with whatever earring you want.

I've got 3 holes on each side in my ears, all done thanks to this technique. This is the way things are done in Switezerland.

I guess Manor's mistake was not warning you they were not equipped to pierce your ears with golden earrings.
I can't wear stainless earring.

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Old 22.01.2012, 13:10
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They have golden earring for ear punch. And ordered the golden one from them.
It's not really gold, just the colour.

But they do sell golden earring to wear after the 'medical' ones (that's how they are called).
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Old 22.01.2012, 13:11
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They have golden earring for ear punch. And ordered the golden one from them.
So they had a choice of what kind of earring they would use to shoot in?

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I can't wear stainless earring.
Yes, I think we got that. I'm just wondering if you have a real choice for a material when they shoot them.
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So they had a choice of what kind of earring they would use to shoot in?

Yes, I think we got that. I'm just wondering if you have a real choice for a material when they shoot them.
I think you are right that gold is probably not used for the shooting earrings. I'll bet the sales person probably just thought the OP wanted gold color or they might be gold plated.
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Maybe a language problem.

In English 'golden' means gold coloured, NOT gold.

In French 'doré' means gold coloured. Gold earrings would be 'en or + carat', like 'en or 18 carat'. Gold plated would be 'plaqué or +carat', like 'plaqué or 18C'. BTW 9 Carat gold is not a legal gold standard in CH (as it is in the UK), or even 14C (as it is in Turkey). Usually it is either 18C or 22C in CH. I imagine that perhaps gold is too soft for the shooting guns.
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In English 'golden' means gold coloured, NOT gold.

In French 'doré' means gold coloured. Gold earrings would be 'en or + carat', like 'en or 18 carat'. Gold plated would be 'plaqué or +carat', like 'plaqué or 18C'. BTW 9 Carat gold is not a legal gold standard in CH (as it is in the UK), or even 14C (as it is in Turkey). Usually it is either 18C or 22C in CH. I imagine that perhaps gold is too soft for the shooting guns.
Yes.OP what exactly did you ask for? Did you speak English or German with them?
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Re: Manor. Could you be more disappointing?

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In English 'golden' means gold coloured, NOT gold.

In French 'doré' means gold coloured. Gold earrings would be 'en or + carat', like 'en or 18 carat'. Gold plated would be 'plaqué or +carat', like 'plaqué or 18C'. BTW 9 Carat gold is not a legal gold standard in CH (as it is in the UK), or even 14C (as it is in Turkey). Usually it is either 18C or 22C in CH. I imagine that perhaps gold is too soft for the shooting guns.
I went with Swiss friend. The communication had no problem. It is not color issue. They have stainless steel earring with the golden color. And for 18K gold jewelery, is not pure gold, all gold jewelery I bought before is not magnetic.
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Re: Manor. Could you be more disappointing?

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In English 'golden' means gold coloured, NOT gold.

In French 'doré' means gold coloured. Gold earrings would be 'en or + carat', like 'en or 18 carat'. Gold plated would be 'plaqué or +carat', like 'plaqué or 18C'. BTW 9 Carat gold is not a legal gold standard in CH (as it is in the UK), or even 14C (as it is in Turkey). Usually it is either 18C or 22C in CH. I imagine that perhaps gold is too soft for the shooting guns.
I don't think I saw that number.... 18 is pretty much the standard of the lower number available. In Canada, it is 10 carat.
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I've got 2 bracelets bought in turkey 14C gold - so I thought it was the norm there.

If the earrings label say '18C' is has to be 18C gold - totally illegal otherwise. BTW, no gold jewellery in Europe is sold as pure 24C, unlike in Asia. 24C gold would be far too soft for a ear piercing gun- and I'm sure so would 18C. It is the amount of gold included in the allow mix which defines the Carat, in Switzerland usually 18C for normal jewellery, and 22C for very expensive pieces.
If the label says 'acier plaqué or 18C' then it is steel, plated with 18C gold. Hope this helps.
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Old 22.01.2012, 15:47
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Yep, this was my thought also.

My other thoughts were far less kind - I had my ears pierced first time at 12yo and it was certainly not an impossible task to remove them myself after the initial healing process begun.

HOWEVER, I remember quite well that if you "fiddle" with them often, trying to take them out (yourself or whomever), you maybe have some problem with swelling which makes it tougher to get a good grip.


Meanwhile, with my very active imagination, I figure it's not uncommon for medical staff with experience in emergency care to have as part of that experience the need to remove the earrings of other people. I imagine someone who is unconscious following some sort of accident has some considerable trouble removing earrings for themselves and so, if they are to have MRI themselves, I suppose the staff (nurse or technician) must remove them...


Finally, for myself, if I were having trouble, I'd much rather ask a friend, medically trained colleague (if I had access), or my mother (if she's available) to help me remove undesired "starter stud" earrings than some random sales clerk from the jewelry counter.
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As you work with an MRI I'm guessing you work with a bunch of doctors and nurses. Maybe ask one of them to help you?
When I went for the MRI with my son they asked me to take my watch off, but I could leave my earrings and bracelet on and was with him in the room while he was being scanned, so I wonder if that should really be a problem for you. As far as I understand, you are not in the very room when an MRI is done (none of the nurses were when I went with my son).
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Re: Manor. Could you be more disappointing?

Save money. Get silver*. It's also not magnetic.

I had to take my gold ring of when having an MRI. The problem is not magnetism - my hand sticking to the side of the machine - rather the induced currents which can cause heating and burns, as anyone who's seen various episodes of House will know.

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Save money. Get silver*. It's also not magnetic.

I had to take my gold ring of when having an MRI. The problem is not magnetism - my hand sticking to the side of the machine - rather the induced currents which can cause heating and burns, as anyone who's seen various episodes of House will know.

* or wood.
Silver in new piercings rises the chance of infections, which is why our mothers/grandmothers had to have gold earrings when they had it done with the hot needle....
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You, I think that the OP had more of a problem with the type of service which she received which is actually not uncommon here. The next time, go to a pharmacy and double check which earrings are being used.
A few summers ago I wanted to buy a swimsuit from my local Manor, my size was not available, I asked the sales assistant if she could get me the swimsuit from another branch, of course I got the standard answer, sorry there is none available (without checking)
a few days later I went to zurich, and lo and behold an entire rack full of the swimsuit in question
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Re: Manor. Could you be more disappointing?

As long as you're not the one HAVING the MRI there is absolutely no issue - the machine won't tear them from your ears.

You say there was no issue with communication - well obviously there was, since you didn't get what you asked for. Get a different friend for the next piercing.
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You, I think that the OP had more of a problem with the type of service which she received which is actually not uncommon here. The next time, go to a pharmacy and double check which earrings are being used.
A few summers ago I wanted to buy a swimsuit from my local Manor, my size was not available, I asked the sales assistant if she could get me the swimsuit from another branch, of course I got the standard answer, sorry there is none available (without checking)
a few days later I went to zurich, and lo and behold an entire rack full of the swimsuit in question
Quite a few people on the forum complain about the service. I have never come across rude or couldn't-care-less sort of attitude in stores in Zug. They even open the door for you and thank you several times, even if you don't buy anything. And the Herren Globus here got us a sweatshirt for my son from the store in Zürich, because they didn't have his size, and gave us a phone call to let us know we could pick it up.

Maybe it is more the small-town-everybody-knows-everybody attitude in Zug, compared to Zürich or any other bigger city.
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Quite a few people on the forum complain about the service. I have never come across rude or couldn't-care-less sort of attitude in stores in Zug. They even open the door for you and thank you several times, even if you don't buy anything. And the Herren Globus here got us a sweatshirt for my son from the store in Zürich, because they didn't have his size, and gave us a phone call to let us know we could pick it up.

Maybe it is more the small-town-everybody-knows-everybody attitude in Zug, compared to Zürich or any other bigger city.

Well, I think its more to do that it is Zug, and not Hinwil!! *lol* And the service at Globus is a million times better than at Manor, they can afford to hire better trained staff.

I did go back to Manor with teh swimming costume and asked to speak to the manager for the ladieswear department to complain, because it is a policy of Manor that they can get items for you from another store. Guess who was the manager?
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Well, I think its more to do that it is Zug, and not Hinwil!! *lol* And the service at Globus is a million times better than at Manor, they can afford to hire better trained staff.

I did go back to Manor with teh swimming costume and asked to speak to the manager for the ladieswear department to complain, because it is a policy of Manor that they can get items for you from another store. Guess who was the manager?
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