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Re: how to be a hippy in zurich??

To put it simply, Switzerland isn't the country for being in the full "alternative/sustainable/below the radar" living. The laws here, especially on health insurance make sure this can't be done without a regular income. Being a "traveller" will arouse so much suspicion you'll never feel comfortable. The Yenisch, aka Swiss Gypsies are the only example out there of recognized travellers and they have a tough time. You can find squats in various towns but there is no "scene", no crowd and you'll face hostility from all over, as you'll be taken for scroungers. Switzerland just doesn't have enough free land for establishing alternative communities, and farms are dying here by the dozen every year.

So why not try and get your boyfriend to move to you?
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Get a VW van ,old guitar ,dress like that and sing "Kum Ba Yah my Lord Good old days
Last time I was in a VW van (in upstate NY), I spilled my beer ion my lap, on the way to night skiing at Jiminy Peak (only time we could go, and it was close).

Every time I sat on the chairlift, my butt froze! (literally)

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Re: how to be a hippy in zurich??

wow, obviously a contentious issue! and a useful way to get a sense of mixed outlooks...
some great tips - will follow them up.
and see what comes of it all

thankyou!
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Re: how to be a hippy in zurich??

Some good information and varied opinions here. I think it is possible but only as a capitalist hippy, everyone requires money regardless of location, it is how you make that money or goods to trade that changes with your location. Sucessful people, regardless of lifestyle orientation adapt to location, adapting to the location sometimes causes problems (see complaints corner!!), so it may be more difficult here but possible with creativity and luck. What is not mentioned here is the "farmer's markets" or any fresh food markets are normally more expensive by a large factor. So if you were to make a product to sell the Swiss will happily pay a premimum for home/house made goods, ie 250grm of jam for Chf8??? is not that uncommon. Food for thought?
www.tierwelt.ch is a farmer's magazine, definately not hippy but there are sometimes ads for help required, maybe you could cut a deal with someone in exchange for a patch of garden and a roof over your head.
Keep us cynical people here updated on your progress.
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Re: how to be a hippy in zurich??

A-Bulletin is the magazine for the alternative here . Its a magazine that comes out every month or so and contains alot of help for the alternative lifestyle. It has accommodation offers,jobs etc. But its in German.
http://bernetblog.ch/2008/02/20/a-bu...-blaetterwald/
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hello -
its my second thread in this forum, but im aiming for more specific answers this time!

...my boyfriend lives in zurich and im thinking of moving there (or close) from england.

what i have read and researched so far all seems to be aimed at executive, proffessional, affluent, urban crowd...
obviously thats a big part of switzerland, but is there room for alternative?
where do i find it?

could i live more sustainably / rurally / land-based? a cabin / caravan?
is it at all possible to slip under the wire in matters of authority?
how to generate income through creative self-employment?
where is the crowd who already do? performers? travellers? co-ops?
any earth-based projects / party scenes... you get the idea...

desperatley seeking subculture!
...or do you think im barking up the wrong country altogether?

xx
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Re: how to be a hippy in zurich??

Out of interest what does the boyfriend do? Would he be comfortable with you being a hippy in ZH?
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Re: how to be a hippy in zurich??

In the 90s the green hippy culture thrived in Switzerland and the surrounding European countries.The conservative nature of consumerism destroyed that idea.I am old enough to have seen that the hippy culture was actually one of the most productive generations in American and European society.Their ideas formed the basis of equality and technical innovation for the masses.
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In the 90s the green hippy culture thrived in Switzerland and the surrounding European countries.The conservative nature of consumerism destroyed that idea.I am old enough to have seen that the hippy culture was actually one of the most productive generations in American and European society.Their ideas formed the basis of equality and technical innovation for the masses.
In the 1890s for sure. :P

And let's not forget that it was a Swiss who invented LSD.
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In the 1890s for sure. :P

And let's not forget that it was a Swiss who invented LSD.
Drugs are the only thing associated with the word hippy,but the movement in the 1960s included civil rights,solar energy,womens liberation,pollution concerns and so on.The freedom of expression was also born out of the so called hippy movement.The very computer that we communicate with is also a hippy innovation.I just wish people would give them their fair share of credit.
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Drugs are the only thing associated with the word hippy,but the movement in the 1960s included civil rights,solar energy,womens liberation,pollution concerns and so on.The freedom of expression was also born out of the so called hippy movement.The very computer that we communicate with is also a hippy innovation.I just wish people would give them their fair share of credit.
What a load of rubbish! It's the rise of the geeks and their love of open communication, sharing resources and their capacity to master new technologies that bought forth the information age that we live in now. It certainly wasn't anything the hippy generation used, including the use of the soundbite and marketing and love of non-scientific solutions that got us here.

It's not because "openness" is a common value between the two that the first home computers came about, and the internet even less.
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What a load of rubbish! It's the rise of the geeks and their love of open communication, sharing resources and their capacity to master new technologies that bought forth the information age that we live in now. It certainly wasn't anything the hippy generation used, including the use of the soundbite and marketing and love of non-scientific solutions that got us here.

It's not because "openness" is a common value between the two that the first home computers came about, and the internet even less.
You obiviously are oblivious to the fact of Steve jobs or Paul Allen.Both ex hippies.If your talking science most of it comes from exhippies including
modern day physics.Carl sagen described himself to the end as a hippy.
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Re: how to be a hippy in zurich??

Ive seen a farm in Dübendorf (next to Zurich) that has workers mostly from eastern europe and they put them upin cabins on their land. Thoughihave no idea what they are earning or the permit situation it does l
Ook like they are working rather hard for long hours, not sure if they are still here in the winter and or if they are able to grow their own on the land. Probably the same situation as is in England, they are over here not scared to work hard and doing the work that the locals dont want to do.

Would be quite easy though to just go off and live in the woods as the Swiss only walk on the tracks built up by the city

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Drugs are the only thing associated with the word hippy,but the movement in the 1960s included civil rights,solar energy,womens liberation,pollution concerns and so on.The freedom of expression was also born out of the so called hippy movement.The very computer that we communicate with is also a hippy innovation.I just wish people would give them their fair share of credit.
Of course they are not. I just found it interesting that LSD was invented by a Swiss. Don't be so serious.

Anyway, you didn't say anything about my other comment. But I'll elaborate. It's interesting to read the history of the hippy movement. It was influenced by "fin de siecle" Europe, especially Germany. There was a small hub of "pre-hippy activity" in Ascona with Herman Hesse and friends in the early 1900s.
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Of course they are not. I just found it interesting that LSD was invented by a Swiss. Don't be so serious.

Anyway, you didn't say anything about my other comment. But I'll elaborate. It's interesting to read the history of the hippy movement. It was influenced by "fin de siecle" Europe, especially Germany. There was a small hub of "pre-hippy activity" in Ascona with Herman Hesse and friends in the early 1900s.
You are absolutely correct and astute.I picked up on the humor but was elaborating on the common assumptions when people say the word hippy.
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There was a small hub of "pre-hippy activity" in Ascona with Herman Hesse and friends in the early 1900s.
Ummm, Hesse lived in Montagnola (near Lugano) from 1920 until his death in '62, only spending a few months near Locarno in 1919. Before that, he lived up north.

Oh, and he's buried three plots over from my in-laws.

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Ummm, Hesse lived in Montagnola (near Lugano) from 1920 until his death in '62, only spending a few months near Locarno in 1919. Before that, he lived up north.

Oh, and he's buried three plots over from my in-laws.

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And? He certainly hung out in Ascona in early 1900s with other counter-culture artist and intellectuals.

In the early 1900s Ascona was a hub of the turn of the counter culture movement. Of course, it was only a small part of the movement as most this counter culture was going on in Germany.

This it the type of village that the OP is looking for. Too bad she's 100 years too late:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Verità

Anyway... I'm trying to link the hippy life & Switzerland.

It all comes back to CH really: lobotomies, LSD, Velveeta! Who says the Swiss are not creative???
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Great info and understanding of counter culture miniMia.
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