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Re: Loud American Kids on Train...what would you do?

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Oh, now, I'm not above being a cranky old bitch willing to rain on someone's day but, really, is a bunch of kids having fun, talking a bit too loudly on a train, REALLY worth this level of angst. In Switzerland, I think it might be which is one of the reasons I figure, along with the 1950s attitudes towards women, is why I'd prefer to raise my daughter in the US(which whas it's own issues, yes, I'm aware).

bitch about are noisy teens on a train, well, life is really good to be honest.

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Naw, being a teen is not a disease,

You know skateboarding actually is a crime though right?
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Get yourself a bigger set of headphones!
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Old 24.02.2012, 00:06
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I think the Swiss gauge on what is loud is rather low (again, you get used to the silence here rather quickly so it's not an indictment).
Of course, they're the exact opposite in the mountains. At least in my experience. Stop and just try to listen to the small sounds of nature and along comes the boisterous Swiss family. And then the next one...and the next one...
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Old 24.02.2012, 00:44
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I'm interested in how this discussion would have evolved if the OP had said simply 'Loud kids on the train' or 'Loud black kids on the train'. Is their nationality important? Are no other kids loud? Are you under the mistaken impression that non-American (Swiss!) kids can't act like asshats when their parents aren't around? I guess all those swarthy Swiss Italian kids I see smoking dope, beating up public property, harassing the wildlife, and tossing bikes and road construction equipment into the river are actually Americans in disguise!
Shit dope if they got the energy to do all that
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Of course, they're the exact opposite in the mountains. At least in my experience. Stop and just try to listen to the small sounds of nature and along comes the boisterous Swiss family. And then the next one...and the next one...
"Boisterous and Swiss" don't even sound right together...
Try again...

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Old 24.02.2012, 03:32
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After that fabulous performance by Frances McDormand, who could forget Fargo????

Being from the southwest, I can verify that referring to oneself as a gringo or gringa is very commonplace, and usually light-hearted.

For example, I have a motto: Food should not hurt. Hence, I don't care for the jalapeños prevalent in some super spicy foods that originated with our friends from south of the border. I tell my students I am a gringa and they laugh. It is not a slur.

Howdy, crazygringo--from one crazy gringa.

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I stepped into a Starbucks and the American expats were having a get together there along with their children. The children were all over the chairs, noisy, using the place like a daycare center.

They act ignorant and talk loudly to compensate for their lack of culture and empathy for the country they are in.
This has NOTHING to do with being expat American at all. This is boorish behavior in ANY Starbucks or anywhere, and those parents are jackasses.

(Can I say that here?)

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Old 24.02.2012, 07:31
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Try again...
Don't get out much, do you? I'm sorry I threaten your dominant paradigm. That's usually what happens when the accumulated data fails to match your theory.
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Old 24.02.2012, 10:03
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Get yourself a bigger set of headphones!
I am. Those giant Dr Dre Studios will look awesome on my head, just have to find the time for it and the right coulor. Funny thing is it's my teen students who help me choose the proper music gadgets.

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I think the Swiss gauge on what is loud is rather low (again, you get used to the silence here rather quickly so it's not an indictment).
Exactly. If a culture sheeshes people (and I think it is done for controlling, rather than really keeping super quiet, since where I live it ain't), they overcompensate. To let teens bug regular folks during their travels on a train just to overcompensate is silly, me thinks. I am not talking about them being just noisy, I am talking about some of the nutty behavior that I as a commuter witnessed. It works a charm to shut them up if they are out of the world nuisance. They learn there is time and place to compensate for getting adjusted to world around them. Most of the teens I travel with are great, though, they study, sleep, listen to the music, help others etc. By the time they are old enough to commute to school on their own on train, they are past the out of control pubescent behavior, seems like.
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fyi, "gringo" is not a racial slur at all, it simply denotes a "foreigner" (which I am).
It denotes a foreigner in Mexico. You're in Switzerland. If you insist on calling yourself a "foreigner", then the word you are looking for is "Ausländer".
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Old 24.02.2012, 10:41
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It denotes a foreigner in Mexico. You're in Switzerland. If you insist on calling yourself a "foreigner", then the word you are looking for is "Ausländer".
No, here it's "straniero".

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"Boisterous and Swiss" don't even sound right together...
I guarantee that there will be a lot of "boisterous Swiss" up in the next town tonight and tomorrow night!

Tom

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Old 24.02.2012, 11:36
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Re: Loud American Kids on Train...what would you do?

its probably the train in Adliswil i used to get and the muppets on there would swear and god knows what at 8 in the morning before they go to they nice little ZIS school.

I was close to sying shut it, you are making making yourself look foolish and giving the yanks a bad name but - ah what the hell.
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Re: Loud American Kids on Train...what would you do?

If you're older and with someone you can pretend that one of you is deaf. The deaf person can loudly ask what the kids are talking about, the other can loudly reply by repeating what the kids said. Put in some additional personal and degrading comments, that ought to shut 'm up
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It denotes a foreigner in Mexico. You're in Switzerland. If you insist on calling yourself a "foreigner", then the word you are looking for is "Ausländer".
not to put too fine a point on it, but the word's origins are actually Spanish, and are intended only to identify dudes whose native language renders it impossible for them speak the local language fluently. which, if you've ever heard me try to pronounce "hoeren", definitely applies to me.

more importantly, my gringo laptop came ohni umlaut, typing "crazygringo" in German would therefore be a royal PITA.
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I don't know what you would do, but tomorrow morning I don't know if I can take it anymore.
In no order of preference:

- A morning train has hundreds of seats in anything up to 12 coaches. Move.

- Close your eyes & caste your mind back, if you can, to when you were a 15 yr old sack of raging hormones.

- Read any number of articles on the front pages about Syria & get a grip.
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Re: Loud American Kids on Train...what would you do?

Just got stuck on the TILO with a bunch of rowdy Swiss high schoolers on their way home.
Also saw the fat Swiss kid walking home after school stuffing his face out of a huge bag of potato chips (after seeing the fat Swiss kids on the bus)

America may lead the way but you're all following along right behind.

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Just got stuck on the TILO with a bunch of rowdy Swiss high schoolers on their way home.
Also saw the fat Swiss kid walking home after school stuffing his face out of a huge bag of potato chips (after seeing the fat Swiss kids on the bus)

America may lead the way but you're all following along right behind.

Fat kid, nice and not-so-rude to children
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Re: Loud American Kids on Train...what would you do?

How about trying a gentle, "Hey, would you guys mind keeping it down a little?" That should not produce any flaming bags of poo.
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Re: Loud American Kids on Train...what would you do?

Bear in mind that often people who don't behave very well don't know any better. I.e. they may not be aware that they are loud, too loud for some. So they perhaps need to be understanding of you but vice-versa as well. This one cuts both ways.

Often this type of bahaviour is the result of lack of attention. So asking them to quiet down can feed their need for attention and result in more loud behaviour. If you don't feel that you want to speak up then completely ignore them and see what happens. If this does not work then speak up but try to do it with each one when they are alone. Not having the support of their mates allows the message from you to sink in better. Otherwise move to a seat as far away from them as possible.

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Re: Loud American Kids on Train...what would you do?

The problem with asking them to be quiet is that it is likely to be different kids in your carriage each day, so you'll have to ask them often.

I'd recommend some sound isolating earphones. They are so effective that they are dangerous to use when walking around, because you can't really hear anything apart from the podcast or music you are listening to. I've got some mid range Shure earphones, which are expensive, but the Shure SE215 is supposed to isolate sound as well as the rest of their range.

Some people don't like the feel of in ear phones, but the Shures come with a wide range of adaptors to make them comfortable.

There are lots of other makes of sound isolating earphones: http://www.reghardware.com/2009/02/2...ing_earphones/
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