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Deep Purple 17.09.2008 00:11

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No more Christmas trees, or Santa Claus with Reindeer in England? No more Hallowe'en parties? No more Diwali fireworks in Leicester?

What a depressing thought... :msnsad:
I perhaps didn't word my reply accurately enough. What I would not like to see is complete uniformity everywhere. I am certainly not suggesting scrapping the celebrations, just maintaining the national and regional distinctiveness.

Rod

Guest 17.09.2008 00:19

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Originally Posted by Deep Purple (Post 314727)
maintaining the national and regional distinctiveness.

That's the bit I disagree with!

Culture is always in a state of flux - just think of food: What are the ingredients in Irish Stew? In fish and chips? In a typical Italian pizza? All of these distinctive foods contain ingredients that are not indigenous to their respective nations. Or music - the pop music for which Britain is most famous, for example - derived from black American jazz and blues, interpreted by spotty Scousers and Mancs and made into something quite special.

Festivals are no different: What would an English Christmas be without a Christmas tree? Without turkey and cranberry sauce? Without the Queen's speech on the telly? Without Santa Claus and Rudolf and Slade? None of these things would exist if Christmas had been kept 'pure', far from foreign influences.

Easter is the same: Mix a bit of indigenous pagan fertility ritual with a dollop of Semitic sacrifice, and everyone gets a chocolate egg and a couple of days off work! Brilliant!

Purity is death. Mix it up and have more fun!

(I would respond more intelligently, because it's actually something I really believe in, but it's bed time, so it'll have to wait... sorry!)

flow23 17.09.2008 01:03

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theres is some truth in it, of course. but the amazement that swiss do not celebrate halloween and if, that the suprise goes on its not like in florida or california, texas, idaho or ireland.

like if id be living in uk i had to accept that on boxing day you get the gifts and would not be surprised its not on xmas eve as its a uk custom. all this adapting is boring. in the end its like the summary like in most threads: different culture here, adjust.

Guest 17.09.2008 06:19

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Originally Posted by flow23 (Post 314733)
like if id be living in uk i had to accept that on boxing day you get the gifts and would not be surprised its not on xmas eve as its a uk custom. all this adapting is boring. in the end its like the summary like in most threads: different culture here, adjust.

Why should one give up everything one enjoys just because the locals don't enjoy it, too? Why can't one introduce the locals to the fun and excitement that one enjoys back home?

If Americans want to celebrate Hallowe'en in Switzerland, then let them! And if Swiss people want to join in, then all the better!

I've never heard anyone complain when Chinese people want to celebrate their New Year wherever they happen to be living in the world.

Perhaps it is just American festivals that earn our disapproval?

As usual... :rolleyes:

flow23 17.09.2008 09:24

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Why should one give up everything one enjoys just because the locals don't enjoy it, too? Why can't one introduce the locals to the fun and excitement that one enjoys back home?

If Americans want to celebrate Hallowe'en in Switzerland, then let them! And if Swiss people want to join in, then all the better!

I've never heard anyone complain when Chinese people want to celebrate their New Year wherever they happen to be living in the world.

Perhaps it is just American festivals that earn our disapproval?

As usual... :rolleyes:

nono. misunderstanding! please do so, as much diverse as posible, feel happy doing so! i just want to say that one should no be surprised or rant if not such thing is going on here. i am happy if you are but please leave me alone with trick or treat-crap, shaving foam in my post box and the request to decorate my flat with candle lit pumpkins n stuff which some people asked me about why i am not doing that, expats and locals...thats all. i dont want to celebrate things i have nothing in common with. e.g. people coming from the nothern part of germany living in munich and getting dressed on oktoberfest as the bavarians do, but do speak heavy nothern accent and with no idea about bavaria at all. superimposed fun...

Starbug 17.09.2008 09:38

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There's a tradition in the area where I live, that people make bonfires on Hallowe'en and then burn things they no longer want, it can be something small like a photograph or something bigger like a chair. Whatever it is, it has to be something that is holding you back, or is a thorn in your side and getting rid of it is symbolic of starting new. Then everyone sits backs by the fire, eats and drinks and there are games for the kids (apple dunking, treasure hunt). It isn't quite a traditional idea of Hallowe'en with costumes but it's a good way of getting together with friends and planning for the new year.

herc82 17.09.2008 09:51

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Halloween in Switzerland can be fun, but it's a bit like Fasnacht (carneval) in Zurich - it does not have a meaning to it, no connection... but always a good excuse to go drinking all night!

Guest 17.09.2008 09:52

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Originally Posted by Deep Purple (Post 314727)
just maintaining the national and regional distinctiveness.

Round by my Mum and Dad in the UK, Hallowe'en has now become the realm of the local yoof, dressed up in hoodies and acting like little b*stards. The police hate hallowe'en because it means a 5 million percent increase in phone calls reporting damage to property, theft, attacks on rival little b*stards, and general disruption.

Little kids dressed up as pumpkins, witches and fairies wouldn't be allowed out by their parents for fear of coming face to face with fighting hoodies.

On the brighter side, the shops make a fortune selling cheap orange and black plastic tat. :rolleyes:

Hallowe'en in Switzerland seems to be a bit of a non-event. In 8 years I've never had so much as a witch ring on our doorbell.

On the brighter side, the shops make a fortune selling cheap orange and black plastic tat. :rolleyes:

Some national distinctiveness is the same the world over... :D

Rustygraben 17.09.2008 09:54

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It is one thing to introduce a number of traditions from other countries and celebrate them to enrich one's own culture and another to import a festival that has succumbed to commercial exploitation. Halloween nowadays has almost completely lost its original meaning and is now only an excuse for wholesalers to flog tons of unripe pumpkins and cheap costumes.

BHBT 17.09.2008 09:56

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Hallowe'en in Switzerland seems to be a bit of a non-event. In 8 years I've never had so much as a witch ring on our doorbell.
I wish....I once had dishwashing detergent squirted on my house when I wasn't home at Hallowe'en....in sleepy old Hombrechtikon :eek:

Little b*stards....

Barbra.

Guest 17.09.2008 09:59

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If Americans want to celebrate Hallowe'en in Switzerland, then let them! And if Swiss people want to join in, then all the better!
That's the other bit that has always confused me. Hallowe'en is a pagan festival and I'm always surprised at how popular it is in the US given that Christianity seems to be such a big thing over there. :confused:

The All Saints day which is the Christian festival on the same day is supposed to be a day of fasting so scoffing sweets and goodies collected from neighbours seems a bit against the grain...

Guess it's just one of those quirks to make things fit into society like celebrating Christmas at the wrong time of the year... :)

Sada 17.09.2008 10:08

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Originally Posted by BHBT (Post 314839)
I wish....I once had dishwashing detergent squirted on my house when I wasn't home at Hallowe'en....in sleepy old Hombrechtikon :eek:

Little b*stards....

Barbra.

What Hombrechtikon!!! :) that is the place I earned my first salary, working with horses there, you probably know the place !!! This brings back lovely memories !!! :)

barryinc 17.09.2008 10:08

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That's the other bit that has always confused me. Hallowe'en is a pagan festival and I'm always surprised at how popular it is in the US given that Christianity seems to be such a big thing over there. :confused:

The All Saints day which is the Christian festival on the same day is supposed to be a day of fasting so scoffing sweets and goodies collected from neighbours seems a bit against the grain...

Guess it's just one of those quirks to make things fit into society like celebrating Christmas at the wrong time of the year... :)
Yeah the christians(churches) in the U.S. have there kids a fall party and have games and talk about how Halloween was good and has been taken over by evil. I love Halloween evil or good been both:msntongue:

barryinc 17.09.2008 10:10

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Originally Posted by J.L-P (Post 314647)
Here is the link for the ghost walk: http://www.ghostwalk.ch/

Have you been? we should go

Uncle Max 17.09.2008 19:53

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Originally Posted by flow23 (Post 314816)
superimposed fun...

Keepin' it real, Flow :cool:

Apparently, 23% of Americans are Evangelical, yet Vampire stories are the most favoured books loaned from libraries in the Bible Belt. Weird lot...

Jim2007 17.09.2008 22:07

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Perhaps it is just American festivals that earn our disapproval?
As usual... :rolleyes:
Yes, but Halloweeen in actually an Irish party, although we don't do it in the same was as the American do......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

Jim

kuku-gaga 29.10.2009 20:26

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Folks, anyone plans something for this Halloween?

I have this:
http://www.frightcatalog.com/i/360x360/1104150.jpg

And would like to join with some others who would love go scaring people around Niederdorf, Bahnhofstrasse and so on.

As soon as darkness comes down, that means from 19:00.

I do not know how long I will survive in this suit but for some time I am sure able to wreck havoc.

Unfortunately I cannot really go inside of crowded places, especially if there is a smoke, in this suit, I will die.

Hehe

SemperEadem 13.10.2010 15:02

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Star Trek ensign and some beer. Boom. That's what's up.

Wollishofener 13.10.2010 21:41

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Originally Posted by eejit (Post 122377)
I don't think there's anything traditional here on the 31st. The local kids have picked up on the trick-or-treat possibilities in the last few years although they're not very innovative with the tricks. Shaving foam in the letter box is their limit.

Last Halloween my youngest daughter and her friends got dressed up as witches and I chaperoned them at a discreet distance while they did their treating. All the folks who answered the door seemed to understand what was going on and were friendly and generous enough, given that it's something alien to them.

The pre-teens don't make much effort and for them it's just another way to goof off. They are just about old enough to have taken part in the annual Zürich "Schulsilvester" (trans: school New Year's Eve) when it was traditional to run riot, let off fireworks, shaving foam, etcetera, in the early hours of the last school day of the year.

Disclaimer: I'm an English native and my knowledge of real Halloween extends to Wikipedia reference-linkBobbing_for_apples and Jamie Lee Curtis

Halloween has no tradition in Zurich. The teachers however used Halloween to replace "Schulsylvester" when the government abolished the Schulsylvester.


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