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Old 21.03.2012, 15:44
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Don't forget the issue of humidity, Switzerland is a very dry country. At the height of winter I was waking up with headaches, dry mouth/sinuses, skin rashes etc.. but since getting a humidifier and setting it to 55% all that has dissapeared. Its not something I ever thought about before, coming from a damp country like the UK.
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Old 21.03.2012, 15:51
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Nope. All fine here. Thanks for asking though.
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Old 21.03.2012, 16:10
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Nope. All fine here. Thanks for asking though.
I'm sorry, did we wake you?
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Old 21.03.2012, 16:13
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Switzerland is relatively high above sea level so if you come from a low lying country then it will take some time to adjust.

Also you often have these loud church clocks striking every hour through the night & when it wakes you the sound has already finished so you don't know the cause.
Coming from The Low Country also known as The Netherlands, I have never had an issue sleeping here as it is magically quiet. The church bells are useful too (we got three here in the village and the biggest one is about 100m away, I can read the clock without glasses, that is how close as you can keep your eyes shut, just count, and you know how late it is and that you can dream on

But maybe I am weird, as I also love the chirping of the birds, which generally means that one should be getting out too. I do am one of those people who tends to sleep almost anywhere, reading a book helps, but going for a good swim or run so one is actually tired is another good trick.

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Don't forget the issue of humidity, Switzerland is a very dry country. At the height of winter I was waking up with headaches, dry mouth/sinuses, skin rashes etc.. but since getting a humidifier and setting it to 55% all that has dissapeared. Its not something I ever thought about before, coming from a damp country like the UK.
As mentioned in another thread, I got one of those Boneco humidifiers/airwashers which is indeed nicely set to 55%, but this is more for filtering out pollen from the air, as I love fresh air, but that is incompatible with pollen...



Btw, what is considered 'an expensive mattress'? And isn't it so that expensive does not always means 'good'?
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Old 21.03.2012, 16:30
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I heard singles in general don't sleep all that well.
Well, I'm having a close relationship with my hot-water bottle. It's complicated ..
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I had the same problem when I moved to CH...but it was probably happening because of the big change...
Right now I only sleep bad when I am on the living-room couch, so I guess a good mattress and pillow could also help a great deal.
Never thought of an air humidifier untill now thanks for the tip
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Old 21.03.2012, 16:34
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Sleep poorly? ..... you gotta be joking - I don't trust bankers, so I keep my wedge under the mattress.
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Old 21.03.2012, 16:39
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I find it totally fantastic to sleep here. Of course I live in a small village, but the clock bell striking, the cowbells clinking in the fields and the breeze blowing through the fields and trees is like my own personal sound machine. Even my friends in the city who come from cities in the US say it is super quiet in comparison. Very few horns honking and general city noise. I find it hard to get up....that is my problem. Curse the alarm.
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Alcoholic neighbour, mad weasel running on the roof and insomniac owl in the barn opposite did not help city folks like us! But neighbour has been sectioned, weasel has been chased away by neighbour's dog and my own ultra sound device, we can handle the owl!!
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Old 21.03.2012, 18:08
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Alcoholic neighbour, mad weasel running on the roof and insomniac owl in the barn opposite did not help city folks like us! But neighbour has been sectioned, weasel has been chased away by neighbour's dog and my own ultra sound device, we can handle the owl!!
So you're "Billy No Mates" again now...? That's sad. Maybe we could start a sympathy collection for you.
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Time does seem to go faster here in Switzerland, maybe it has something to do with the water supply having 20 times the trace levels of cocain than other cities...
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I haven't slept much in the last 3 years.

Mostly because I'm constantly on edge due to the neighbor - I find I often end up staying awake all night so I can prove that any noise made wasn't us.

Recent billet doux in the mail box:

Curious incident of the (farm) dog in the nighttime? Must be my fault - because I am the only dog owner in Switzerland.

Midnight catterwauling below his balcony? Must be my fault - because I have dogs his cats feel compelled to posture and fight amongst themselves.

Birds singing in the early morning? Must be my fault - because I have dogs his cats are hesitant to cross my garden to kill the birds next door.

Swiss military planes flying overhead? Must be my fault, because I have dogs.




(My mutts are always tucked up in bed well before 10pm, quiet as mice.)



The day I finally have tickets booked home and know that there is nothing more these folks can do to hurt the mutts I'm going to throw caution to the winds - and sleep all night.
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Old 21.03.2012, 19:28
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Get a decent mattress. And learn to stop thinking about work and relaxing your muscle groups instead. Also, it helps that in the summer we sleep on our deck and get to listen to the sound of the river. A little white noise and you sleep like a log.
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Old 21.03.2012, 19:56
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Don't have a problem, sleep just as well here as anywhere, but then I can sleep on long distance flights in economy class whenever I feel like it.
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Have lived here for 11 years. Lived in several other countries before. Yes, I do find it much harder to sleep here too and I don't know why....but the church bells don't really help when they dong every 15 mins....and you lay there in bed almost waiting for the next one!! In the summer I often go and sleep downstairs, where it's cooler.
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Old 21.03.2012, 22:33
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Umm yes I am regularly told I am weird and yes I regularly wonder wonder what the strange thing called Jetlag actually is
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Old 21.03.2012, 22:44
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Get a decent mattress.
I thought that was my problem as it is very quiet where I am, so as I sleep quite well when I am in the UK I purchased the exact mattress and lugged it over. It did not make any difference as I still sleep badly.

Soon the sheep or goats will be under my bedroom window so once they start their nocturnal activities there will be no hope
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Old 21.03.2012, 23:08
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Don't forget the issue of humidity, Switzerland is a very dry country. At the height of winter I was waking up with headaches, dry mouth/sinuses, skin rashes etc.. but since getting a humidifier and setting it to 55% all that has dissapeared. Its not something I ever thought about before, coming from a damp country like the UK.
I too bought a humidifier for the winter, I have it on all day and then turn it off when I go to bed - don't like the noise and lights
Problem is now I can't wake up in the morning ....
Also keep the bedroom temp low < 20C if you have control of your radiators turn it off in your bedroom.
Sweet dreams :-)
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Old 21.03.2012, 23:24
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I definitely have had this problem here! I don't know why it keeps happening but I just don't feel very rested, even when I do manage to fall asleep. I had the exact same thing with sleeping pills too, they just don't seem to work anymore
Maybe you should try some other pants
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Old 21.03.2012, 23:58
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Oddly Every Single expat that i spoken to says the Same thing. Initially my sleep was fantastic, but after a few months constantly waking up in the night, clocking in fewer hours. Spoke to a woman here from the States, according to her she has not had a good sleep in 5 years. So who else has the same problem? Even a sedative did not help last night, I slept but constantly woke up and this sedative before would have knocked me out for 12 hours.
No kidding, that's what the English Fora are for... Keeping you back straight up from Ikea skimpy mattress and exercising iPads touchpad... Humidifier in room (checked), fresh-aired room (checked), showered and pyjama on (checked), better-half back from TV room lying next to me (checked), EF off (checked)... Sweetdreams!!!!
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