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Old 22.03.2012, 01:02
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Oddly Every Single expat that i spoken to says the Same thing. Initially my sleep was fantastic, but after a few months constantly waking up in the night, clocking in fewer hours. Spoke to a woman here from the States, according to her she has not had a good sleep in 5 years. So who else has the same problem? Even a sedative did not help last night, I slept but constantly woke up and this sedative before would have knocked me out for 12 hours.

A) First of all, the USA is a vast country and has various regional "climates", and Switzerland is small but in spite of this has climatically different regions. So that if you look at the point that Schaffhausen is about half as humid as Luzern with Zürich somewhere in between. That the Valais/Wallis is far dryer by average than Vaud/Waadtland and Fribourg/Freiburg. That the area north of Chur down to the Bodensee has as many sun-hours per year as the Ticino or more. All this means that you have to compare the exact regions of both back in the USA and here and NOT the nations

B) Sedatives are alright as a short-term help. BUT at what height above sea-level did you live in the past and do you live now ? YES, very important. If you lived at between 5meters above sea-level and 150 in the past and now between 420 and 800 m, this may well explain your problem, and you may have to consult a doctor for solutions

C) HOW did you live and do you live now ? A lot is talked on forums about "silence" and a low noise level here. But this simply is NOT reality. What counts is the permanent long-term noise level and this is, at least in urban areas, relatively high, high by average !
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Old 22.03.2012, 01:34
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I work shifts, so I am stuffed from the outset. Sleep during the day and awake all night.

Summer is the worst, have to have the windows open and everyone is outside making noise or mowing their lawns....

Then try to recover, and start the cycle all over again.....

Invested in a great bed....it's the best. But still a bit of an insomniac, just have a constant vague look about me.....
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Old 22.03.2012, 01:52
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I wish I had time to sleep!
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Old 22.03.2012, 02:27
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I work shifts, so I am stuffed from the outset. Sleep during the day and awake all night.

Summer is the worst, have to have the windows open and everyone is outside making noise or mowing their lawns....

Then try to recover, and start the cycle all over again.....

Invested in a great bed....it's the best. But still a bit of an insomniac, just have a constant vague look about me.....
THIS is what I assumed I only rarely had to work at night and sleep during the day, and freely admit that it was close to disaster ....

I admit not to have a solution at hand, but check up things like moving the position of your bed. Closing the window(s) on one side and opening them on the other side.

Finally, check up the bed itself. When moving into my present place, I gradually started to use my old bed of before 1993, but in December changed over to another room and re-activated my bed of 1993 vintage. The old one simply is too short and too weak.

Open the windows in a different room and keep the door open. It will work wonders.

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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

For me, it depends on a variety of circumstances:
- how close the next church is (bells at 1 in the morning = - literally)
- how many boring books I still have to read (the best sedative ever invented)
- how loud the neighbors are
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Old 22.03.2012, 03:06
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

It seems my insomnia has trebled since getting pregnant. My only comfort and best night sleep is on the sofa. My bed is terribly uncomfortable.
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Old 22.03.2012, 04:37
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I sleep well after I actually fall asleep... that is, after husband's snoring "lulls" me to sleep
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Old 22.03.2012, 10:16
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Definitely not a problem. I don't have good nights sometimes, but that's usually because I'm worrying about something and can't get off to sleep easily, but usually I'm dead to the world once my head hits the pillow.
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

i am asleep within 30 seconds and sleep perfectly.

as a former night shift worker of over 8 years i can only suggest the following.

leave all windows open in the night so apartment is nice and cool and fresh in morning.

have a short shower before bed and have light covers, maybe a fan during summer time.

get black out material from ikea - take it off the black out blinds and cover the windows with it.

dont spend too much time doing things in the morning and take some melatonin
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Old 22.03.2012, 10:23
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The problems disappear when i go to my parents in the us or hotels externally.
You can go here and order whatever you sleep on in the hotel! We just got Marriott pillows which are excellent!
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Old 22.03.2012, 14:38
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Don't forget the issue of humidity, Switzerland is a very dry country. At the height of winter I was waking up with headaches, dry mouth/sinuses, skin rashes etc.. but since getting a humidifier and setting it to 55% all that has dissapeared. Its not something I ever thought about before, coming from a damp country like the UK.

THIS. This is the biggest factor we found.
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Old 22.03.2012, 15:37
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Don't forget the issue of humidity, Switzerland is a very dry country. At the height of winter I was waking up with headaches, dry mouth/sinuses, skin rashes etc.. but since getting a humidifier and setting it to 55% all that has dissapeared. Its not something I ever thought about before, coming from a damp country like the UK.
Just warning to those who live in ancient apartments and have old wooden door frames, wodden window frames and doors, old parkets, watch out, guys, for excessive humidity, or you won't close your door no mo. Also, the hole in parkets as the floor moves slowly, aren't too pleasant, either. Some ancient furniture suffers, too.

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It seems my insomnia has trebled since getting pregnant. My only comfort and best night sleep is on the sofa. My bed is terribly uncomfortable.
The long "boyfriend" pillow, or nursing pillow is great for that, lie on your side, half way on the pillow, one leg on it. It really helps.
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I guess I am likely to get groan at or bad repped, but what the heck......

Has anyone heard of 'Wasseradern" http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdstrahlen, or Water veins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_vein

When we first moved to our new flat, we didnt sleep well at all, and worst I awoke feeling as though I ran a marathon. My mother-in-law, then told me about Water veins, and that they can affect ones sleep. We then employed, a so-called 'Wasseradern- und Erdstrahlen-Sanierung'. He pendled the flat, and there was a water vein running through our bed. So we changed the position of our bed, and it helped.


Here is a company that also does this type of readings.
http://www.geopathologie.ch/team-c-8.html

let the mobbing begin.
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let the mobbing begin.
No mobbing from this corner, Pather. Desperate times, desperate measures. All's fair in love, war, and sleep deprivation.

Glad you found a way to get a good night's rest.
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I don't have any problem falling asleep, but just like some of you already mentioned, you should check if:
1. You have a proper matrass/ proper bed
2. Drink enough water

Although Zurich is by far not the highest place of the country (+415mtr) above sea level, depending on where you're originally from (below sea level?), the change going to a much higher place can influence your body.

Take time to adapt, exercise and drink enough water.
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Old 23.03.2012, 14:48
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I guess I am likely to get groan at or bad repped, but what the heck......

Has anyone heard of 'Wasseradern" http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdstrahlen, or Water veins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_vein

When we first moved to our new flat, we didnt sleep well at all, and worst I awoke feeling as though I ran a marathon. My mother-in-law, then told me about Water veins, and that they can affect ones sleep. We then employed, a so-called 'Wasseradern- und Erdstrahlen-Sanierung'. He pendled the flat, and there was a water vein running through our bed. So we changed the position of our bed, and it helped.


Here is a company that also does this type of readings.
http://www.geopathologie.ch/team-c-8.html

let the mobbing begin.
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No mobbing from this corner, Pather. Desperate times, desperate measures. All's fair in love, war, and sleep deprivation.

Glad you found a way to get a good night's rest.
Hey, I know desperate people who couldnt sleep who start doing some ritual to get rid of the spirits who were disturbing their sleep.

Not kidding!!
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Old 24.03.2012, 14:10
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Hey, I know desperate people who couldnt sleep who start doing some ritual to get rid of the spirits who were disturbing their sleep.

Not kidding!!

Well, there was no monster under my bed!!! (rather than the snoring one next to me!)

But nature does affect people and their behaviors, you get people who are unnaturally cranky at full moon, others get a headache before a storm, or before it snows.

Even an higher altitude affects baking!!

I would give it a try, at the most move your bed to the other end of the room
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Old 24.03.2012, 14:22
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I've been living with sleep apnea for close to ten years. Breathing stops for up to 45sec at a time, loud snoring, bursting blood vessels, all that stuff. Just about to go in for my 2nd sleep study.

Do I sleep poorly here??? Yes

Did I sleep poorly back home ??? Yes

On the upside. The fact that my wife still shares a bed with me is a clear indication that she truly loves me. Not sure if I'd do the same. Sometimes my snoring even wakes ME up !!!
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

Well, I haven't slept well since I moved into my latest flat.. I think it might have something to do with the spontaneous parties at 3:30 in the morning waking me up randomly in the night.
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Old 26.03.2012, 11:48
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Re: Do expats sleep poorly here??

I'm another one who sleeps really well - as others have said, a good bed helps a lot! If you've got a crappy bed (wherever you are!), your chance of a good sleep is reduced ... that said, I can also get restful sleep on the floor of my sons' bedroom, even with the Lego.
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