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Old 31.03.2012, 14:43
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Swiss Saddle fetish????

Is there some kind of swiss tradition relating to cycle saddles??? I have seen many bikes left unlocked, yet people take their saddle with them!!! They seem unconcerned that someone will take their bike, as long as the saddle is safe!
Why? Whats going on that I'm not aware of?
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Old 31.03.2012, 15:46
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Re: Swiss Saddle fetish????

I think their thought is that the bicycle is unlikely to be stolen when it is seatless, as it is doubtful that a thief would be running around with a spare seat to attach to a bike he would like to steal. Much easier to choose a one with an intact seat to steal and ride away upon.
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Old 01.04.2012, 12:34
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Re: Swiss Saddle fetish????

The saddle of my gorgeous mountain bike was stolen a couple of weeks back, including the internal pole! Have been using it for city commuting since then (good training for the legs!!) but the bike itself was stolen early this week

Can understand the logic quoted, but a thief is a thief and I don't think a saddle-less bike is a problem!
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Old 01.04.2012, 15:24
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Re: Swiss Saddle fetish????

Despite the perception that Switzerland is a low crime country, I have found bicycyles, any part of a bicycle and anything attached to a bicycle is considered fair game here.

Within two years I had the following stolen
  • Back wheel
  • Saddle
  • Pump
  • Handle bar grips
  • Lights
  • front wheel
  • The entire locked bike

I eventually decided it was cheaper to buy an annual tram pass and use taxis.

Ditch the bike. Switzerland will wear away your will to live.
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Old 01.04.2012, 15:53
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Re: Swiss Saddle fetish????

With quick release, saddles can be had away in a few secs.

On a previous bike I had a thin wire cable that went through the frame and was then attached to saddle, having undone and redone up one of the mounting bolts. Not completely theft-proof but a deterrent against the opportunist.

And why do people nick saddles - because they can .... either for a laff or a sniff.

I always remember 2 nuns from the local convent, who always rode a tandem together. One Sunday, parked outside the church, some berk thought it would be funny to take off both saddles.

Undeterred, the nuns still decided to ride back to the convent, but chose a cobbled street through the old part of town, which they normally avoided because it was a steep downhill gradient, but was a much quicker way home to the convent, under the circumstances.

Half way down the hill, the front nun, clinging onto the handlebars for dear life, turned to the other nun behind her, and said:

-"I've never come this way before."

to which the second one replied:

-"Ohhh ..... I have." ...... with a broad grin on her face.
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Old 01.04.2012, 16:06
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The saddle of my gorgeous mountain bike was stolen a couple of weeks back, including the internal pole! Have been using it for city commuting since then (good training for the legs!!) but the bike itself was stolen early this week

Can understand the logic quoted, but a thief is a thief and I don't think a saddle-less bike is a problem!
How was your bike locked?

In my experience (Basel), an unlocked bike that's at all nice will get stolen pretty quickly. I haven't had a bike stolen for many years now (and I ride a very desirable urban bike) by taking simple precautions:

1) Always use a good U-lock or case-hardened chain. Both of these can be defeated but take a bit of effort and equipment. Never use a thin cable lock - these can be cut with wire cutters than can be easily carried in a jacket.

2) Always lock it to something, preferably through the rear wheels and frame - not the front wheel.
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Re: Swiss Saddle fetish????

My husbands saddle got stolen from his bike as it was locked outside our building. Although this kind of crime is rare, it does happen, and many people do have specialty saddles so they feel the need to protect them more.
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Re: Swiss Saddle fetish????

Males who ride a bike very often and care about their fertility buy a higher end saddle. A saddle is easy to steal too.
So yeah, I can see why they do it.
The rest of the bike should be secured with a serious chain and a ulock, to prevent them from stealing the frame or the wheels.


The chain must be strong because those specialized in stealing bikes can hide a huge cutter under their jacket. Someone once told me how they do it: a huge guy pulls this out, breaks all the chains, then a group of others come and each one of them goes away with a bike.
this is how they do it in Italy.
By having double heavy duty locks, thieves will need: force, tools, time. All these factors decrease the change it will get stolen. You can't make it impossible.
I live in a small city so I can't tell you about bike theft in Zurich, here everybody uses light chains.
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Re: Swiss Saddle fetish????

This is not something I have experienced here yet /touch wood

But, when I was at Uni anything was removed from the bike was. The lecture halls were full of students with bike wheels, saddles etc.

Yes it was partially because a bike minus seat is less attractive to a thief, but they were also stolen to replace ones that had been stolen before and so the circle continues....

Mind you I always get the impression that things are quite often taken when the opportunity arises "because it can" and then the perpetrator wonders what to do with it - think the classic scene from Porridge when Fletcher steals the bell off Faracloughs bike...
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Is there some kind of swiss tradition relating to cycle saddles??? I have seen many bikes left unlocked, yet people take their saddle with them!!! They seem unconcerned that someone will take their bike, as long as the saddle is safe!
Why? Whats going on that I'm not aware of?
The idea is that nobody steals a bicycle without saddle.
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The idea is that nobody steals a bicycle without saddle.
Even the nuns?
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Even the nuns?
There are no nuns in the Canton of Zürich. Beside the point that I do NOT believe that nuns steal biycycles
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Old 02.04.2012, 22:36
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...Ditch the bike. Switzerland will wear away your will to live.
Location matters much here. Theft and vandalism have been on the rise in Swiss cities (some clowns even seem to get their weekend kicks knocking over rows of bikes in Luzern), but where I live, half the bikes are left out unlocked.
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