Hi,

I would be interested to hear from anyone who currently commutes from Luzern to Zug. Is this a cheaper alternative to living in Zug? (taking higher taxes / lower rents) into account? Are trains very full in the mornings and evenings?

Thanks

Cycle it! The route is "ok" apparently (never tried it, personally). And it's free!

no, it's too far and I would arrive all sweaty at work. Train is the only option

How much rent do you currently pay in Luzern??

cheers
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I'm in temporary accomodation in Zug, working in Zug. As Zug is rather expensive with not great availability, I'm looking at Luzern as an alternative. I would like a nice well located 50 m2 flat for less than 1500 if possible.

How about the other direction & Affoltern am Albis? Much cheaper rents there and more availability than Zug.

The trains from Luzern to Zug are quite crowded, but not all that bad
if you make the earlier trains.

You could live in Affoltern am Albis( Zürich ), Root in Canton Luzern,
Arth -Goldau(Schwyz), Horgen( Zürich ).

Did you take a look at the Amtsblatt?

well considering if u are paying quellensteuer, the tax-rate in zug is about one third of that in Luzern if not even less...

Having said that, Generally the apartments in zug are priced higher for that reason but can easily pick something up in surrounding towns (baar, Rotkreuz, cham, oberwil etc) for less than 1500 for 50m2. then public transport in zug is not expensive if u buy the yearly ticket and about 20 mins commute time anywhere in the canton...

And if you're looking for a place in Affotlern am Albis, my place is up for grabs, and is 65m2 for 1291 inclusive...

yes, I looked at the Amtsblatt, thanks. So far towns I have seen near Zug such as Baar and Rotkreuz seem not very attractive places to live, that's why I'm considering Luzern as it is a nice city with a lively centre and great scenery. I do pay Quellensteuer which makes it appealing to stay in Kanton Zug.
I haven't yet checked out Afoltern am Albis, it could be a good alternative, especially as it is not so far from Zurich.

Horgen is nice and 10 minutes from Zug. The taxes are generally lower in Canton Zürich than in Canton Luzern.

Your right about Baar and Rotkreuz, I wouldn't fancy living in either. Affoltern a A is ok and nicer than either of them, cheaper rent's but higher taxes so depending on your salary it may all balance out. Thing with Affoltern is it means the S9 which only has 2 train an hour and takes just over 15 minutes from Zug, which may be a little restrictive tagged on to the Luzern/Zug part for a regular journey. Zug isn't exactly a hip and happening place so if you are looking for nicer restaurants and bars then ZH or Luzern may be better and accept the higher taxes.

PM Mrs Dootlittle, she is/was moving a company from Luzern to Geneva so may have a handle on appartments in the area that haven't hit Homegate et al yet

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Well Rotkreuz and baar are a little industrial and blocky for my liking too...

I'm moving to Cham, which won best dorf in switzerland last year... Plus the lake is beautiful too!!

Oberwil is a little further away but a nice quite place to live. Affoltern am albis is a good inbetween dorf between zug and zurich, if u have friends in both, it's ideal and quite. 26 mins to hardbrücke and 15 mins to zug...

In the UK where I lived, the council did a market survey to see how they could encourage more to cycle in to work. And the comment you made was top of the list.

So they turned the basement of the old Town Hall, right in the centre, into a cycle park, with showers and full size lockers, a dry-cleaner's and a cycle repair shop. Council workers were then given free use of it - and the Council encouraged other employers to pay for their workers. Individuals are also able to rent a parking space + locker for a small fee. Brilliant.

Maybe an excellent concept to borrow for some Swiss towns- why not make the suggestion to your town's environment department?

I also note that quite a few employers provide bike parks, lockers and showers these days too - even in the UK!

But that involved someone thinking outside the box! No comment.

Another vote for Affoltern am Albis. I briefly commuted from there to Zug and the trains weren't too full and the amenities in the town are great. Also nice if you feel like going into Zurich on weekends.

Perhaps making helpful suggestions to your local representatives and councils could help? Yes, even here, in Switzerland.

I've made several suggestions to the local environmental team, and they did listen and are looking at feasibility (communal compost and subsidies for 'real nappies'). So sometimes getting involved is better than moaning
But we digress, back to the OP (ooops).