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Old 15.04.2015, 11:07
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Re: Expat vs. Immigrant

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It's perfectly possible to live in an 'expat bubble' for a Brit in Zug if you're on expat wages - many firms have English as their in-house language, lots of UK products are available at the supermarkets or expat shops, UK tv on cable, pubs like the Pickwick show UK sports, and the chatter is predominantly English. After a while, those people who miss the UK enough to keep up an expat lifestyle tend to move 'home', while others find they've put down roots and home is now here.
I did the opposite. I don't think I was inside any Mr Pickwick style pub more than maybe once or twice during my first five years or so. I was doing everything I could to hang out with Swiss friends and learn to do things the Swiss way. I later got involved in the expat community more as a nostalgia thing.
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Old 15.04.2015, 11:09
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Re: Expat vs. Immigrant

I would like to do things slightly differently. Firstly, come here as an immigrant and integrate. Secondly, get some Swiss based contract with all benefits and perks, move to low-cost country "xyz" with relocation help, sponsored accommodation, car and fuel allowance and other "whats-nots". That would be called "posh expat's" life and even the most pampered émigré from here on 120k plus salary (aka wage ) wouldn't have had a saying in terms of comparing both lifestyles ...

In current global economic reality it's rather a wishful thinking
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Old 15.04.2015, 11:11
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I would like to do something slightly differently. Get the Swiss based contract with all benefits and perks, move to low-cost countries with relocation help, sponsored accommodation, car and fuel allowance and other what-nots. That would be called "posh expat's" life and even the most pampered émigré wouldn't have a saying ...


In current global economic reality it's rather a wishful thinking
I know a German who is working in China on a Swiss expat contract.

So these things do exist.
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Old 15.04.2015, 11:13
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I know a German who is working in China on a Swiss expat contract.

So these things do exist.
Don't mind sharing his "strategy"?
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Old 15.04.2015, 11:28
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Don't mind sharing his "strategy"?
Work for a Swiss company that is moving some projects to China, I heard. But what do I know.
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Re: Expat vs. Immigrant

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I know a German who is working in China on a Swiss expat contract.
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Don't mind sharing his "strategy"?
Meh. You have only mastered this game once you work on a Swiss expat contract in country X as a citizen of country X.
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Old 15.04.2015, 12:44
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Work for a Swiss company that is moving some projects to China, I heard. But what do I know.
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Meh. You have only mastered this game once you work on a Swiss expat contract in country X as a citizen of country X.
That's why only very few succeeded ...

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Re: Expat vs. Immigrant

Just to provide more fodder for comment and (mis)understanding--

While several people have pointed out that common usage may have expatriate and emigrant/immigrant (which differ primarily in point of view going/coming) meaning pretty much the same thing, there are some references to these terms coming form different original meanings.

In particular, expatriate has a common meaning that indicates the person is banished from their home country, either literally or perhaps withdrawing voluntarily.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/expatriate

If used in that sense, I guess my company banished me!
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Old 15.04.2015, 14:49
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Just to provide more fodder for comment and (mis)understanding--

While several people have pointed out that common usage may have expatriate and emigrant/immigrant (which differ primarily in point of view going/coming) meaning pretty much the same thing, there are some references to these terms coming form different original meanings.

In particular, expatriate has a common meaning that indicates the person is banished from their home country, either literally or perhaps withdrawing voluntarily.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/expatriate

If used in that sense, I guess my company banished me!
Even more fodder, I heard once or twice in the office the grumpy boss saying: "I will expatriate you where the sun doesn't shine ... could that be somewhere in EU "
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Even more fodder, I heard once or twice in the office the grumpy boss saying: "I will expatriate you where the sun doesn't shine ... could that be somewhere in EU "

It's hard to believe based on today's gorgeous weather, that the boss was referring to Switzerland--but based on the weather a few weeks ago...highly likely!
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Old 15.04.2015, 15:38
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Even more fodder, I heard once or twice in the office the grumpy boss saying: "I will expatriate you where the sun doesn't shine ... could that be somewhere in EU "
Milton Keynes probably.
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Old 15.04.2015, 15:51
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It's hard to believe based on today's gorgeous weather, that the boss was referring to Switzerland--but based on the weather a few weeks ago...highly likely!
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Milton Keynes probably.
... I had to google for meaning of the joke ...

It's more like Gotthard tunnel he was referring to but even in Ticino it must be gorgeous weather today ... paging Tom
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Re: Expat vs. Immigrant

I live in an expat bubble but am not an expat (no relocation, no expenses, local contract). So am I an exgrant? Or immipat?

I like immipat. I'll be one of those.
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I live in an expat bubble but am not an expat (no relocation, no expenses, local contract). So am I an exgrant? Or immipat?

I like immipat. I'll be one of those.

When giving a phone call to London you are an Emigrant from the UK BUT
when givng a phone call to Zürich you are an IMIgrant
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Old 16.04.2015, 10:46
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When giving a phone call to London you are an Emigrant from the UK BUT
when givng a phone call to Zürich you are an IMIgrant
And when working for Apple you are an iMigrant
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Re: Expat vs. Immigrant

What label are you given when you have lived here so long that you know that if you were to vote it would be SVP?
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What label are you given when you have lived here so long that you know that if you were to vote it would be SVP?
Sociopat(-h)
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Re: Expat vs. Immigrant

I agree haha my father says the same, expats just sounds more positive and more fancy, but I agree that an immigrant is someone who plans on staying in the country he or she migrated to
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Old 17.04.2015, 05:26
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What label are you given when you have lived here so long that you know that if you were to vote it would be SVP?

https://www.google.ch/maps/uv?hl=de&...ed=0CH4QoiowCg
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Re: Expat vs. Immigrant

While it's not one versus the other as suggested by the title of the thread I found this article to be enlightening. In my opinion it's all semantics

http://www.theguardian.com/global-de...ants-migration
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