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Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

Is it possible to buy a cow in Switzerland for sole purpose of slaughtering it in a halal way and feast on it? I know I can find halal meat but I need a whole cow.

How much is the cost of purchasing one livestock? And will I be allowed to slaughter it?

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Is it possible to buy a cow in Switzerland for sole purpose of slaughtering it in a halal way and feast on it? I know I can find halal meat but I need a whole cow.

How much is the cost of purchasing one livestock? And will I be allowed to slaughter it?

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What would be far easier would be to contact a farmer that has his own cattle for sale, meant for slaughter, and purchase the whole cow. I presume you want to have the cow slaughtered in a way that meets the sanitary requirements in Hallal.

The only problem with that is, if you plan to kill the cow yourself and also butcher it, you are going to have to have an area that is hygenically safe. Killing animals in a non "humane" way by anyone other then a licensed or professional slaughterhouse could be percieved as some one being cruel to an animal. I am sure there are Halall butchers and slaughter houses in Switzerland. The cost though to buy a cow, transport it, have it professional butchered, and so on might outweigh the cost of buying it in the store direct.

It's very easy to do what you are asking for back in the states, although I mostly did it with pigs, here though, in a country where you need to take a course before you get your fishing license where they certify you on how to euthenize a fish, getting the right to pick up Bessie and walk her down to your garage and butcher her next to your family vehicle might not be so easy.
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Is it possible to buy a cow in Switzerland for sole purpose of slaughtering it in a halal way and feast on it? I know I can find halal meat but I need a whole cow.

How much is the cost of purchasing one livestock? And will I be allowed to slaughter it?
I couldn't help it but picture the scene, slaughtering a COW in summer while lot of people is taking the Sun in the middle of the Seefeldquai green area close to the Chinese Garden, that'd be funny as hell

Actually a nice idea for a hidden camera/prank
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Re: Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

I am pretty sure that in Switzerland it is illegal to slaughter animals by Halal methods. Animals have to be stunned before slaughter.
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Re: Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

Halal and kosher butchering is a problem in Switzerland.

As far as I know most halal meat is imported from Germany or France, and yes, Swiss animal cruelty laws are very strict in this area: traditional kosher/halal slaughter techniques are illegal in CH.

I see that you're in Geneva, an area I hardly know at all. Here's what I know about the issue in German speaking part of the country:

According to an article in the Tagesanzeiger, some Muslim communities accept a compromise method of slaughter that is legal in CH. At the time the article was written (2009!) the only German-area butchers who regularly used the technique were in the Basel area, and I don't believe that has changed since then.

If you want to do your own work, I'd still recommend getting in contact with (a) a pro butcher and/or (b) some local Swiss folks who *hunt.* Ask those people about guidelines. I have Swiss hunter friends who do their own shooting and slaughtering, and I believe that they enjoy some leeway about how they get the job done. (Obviously, they can't stun the deer before shooting it ... )

Be careful! Concerns about animal cruelty are likely to trump concerns about religious practice.

Another option might be to check on the French side of the border. I believe that France allows halal slaughtering under certain circumstances. For example, here's a larger company that imports meat slaughtered in France:

http://www.islamischemetzgerei.ch/de/

In terms of economics, I imagine that placing a large order (= a whole cow!) from a company like this would cost less than DIY.

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These guys used to slaughter animals any way you wanted to. The law caught up with them and took away their animals and now they've lost their home too. Somewhere there's a horror flick to be filmed using these two brothers as the protaganists.
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Re: Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

.....and remember in Switzerland the cost of a whole cow is about 3 million francs.....
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Re: Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

The Halal Chainsaw Massacre...

I'm scared, Mommy.
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Re: Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

Around 3 to 8 CHF/kg (See columns labeled with LG/PV Lebendgewicht/Poids vif)

An old cow is the cheapest, a heifer (Rind/Génisse) in the medium range, and a calf is the most expensive per kg. A Natura-Beef, Bio, or other labels may be more expensive.
According to Wikipedia the average weight for a cow is 725 kg.
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Around 3 to 8 CHF/kg (See columns labeled with LG/PV Lebendgewicht/Poids vif)
That's carcass prices though (ie slaughtered animals). While alive, it's between 2.5 and 4.2 CHF per kg. Look for the "LG" (lebendgewicht) or PV (poids vivant) prices here
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Re: Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

None of this pricing talk really matters, you'll never, ever be allowed to slaughter a cow yourself in Switzerland, especially a halal/kosher manner.
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That's carcass prices though (ie slaughtered animals). While alive, it's between 2.5 and 4.2 CHF per kg. Look for the "LG" (lebendgewicht) or PV (poids vivant) prices here
I did indeed Quote LG: Normal Cow (VK T) is 3.05, Little better Calf (KV +) is 7.90 per kg LG.
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Re: Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

If in Geneva, last I knew there was at least one halal meat butcher on rue de Lausanne in Geneva. Perhaps inquire within. As others have said, the halal method is a problem in CH, thus most in Geneva come from France as I understand.
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I did indeed Quote LG: Normal Cow (VK T) is 3.05, Little better Calf (KV +) is 7.90 per kg LG.
True. I got the wrong column.
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Is it possible to buy a cow in Switzerland for sole purpose of slaughtering it in a halal way and feast on it? I know I can find halal meat but I need a whole cow.

How much is the cost of purchasing one livestock? And will I be allowed to slaughter it?

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You can usually obtain halal meat in specialised butchers. The Swiss (and to be honest I ) find the technique disagreeable and inappropriate in the modern world but if that is what you need, you should be able to find one in Geneva with its multicultural background. It would probably be worth checking the validity of such a butcher's claim since there are scoundrals around.
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.....and remember in Switzerland the cost of a whole cow is about 3 million francs.....
You're clearly not a mathematician
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Re: Cost of buying a COW in Switzerland

I agree with everyone else in the thread. Save yourself a whole lot of bother and trouble by NOT slaughtering a cow. You could find yourself in a whole lot of trouble with the police if you get found out.

Since you're living in Geneva i don't see why you shouldn't just cross the border to France where you can find halal beef widely available.

Don't try to do it in secret either: those bells around the neck are sure to give you away to your neighbours
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None of this pricing talk really matters, you'll never, ever be allowed to slaughter a cow yourself in Switzerland, especially a halal/kosher manner.
Well if this person had a farm and raised livestock they would be. I know of several farms where the rancher/farmer raises the livestock and takes orders on quanity, then sells it. I think it's rather common.

And I certainly think for personal use those in agriculture have been doing that since time itself.

The comment from some one else on here about hunter's in Switzerland is something specific. Hunters here, in a lot of regions, aren't like hunters in the US, where people can pick land wherever they like(law permitting), walk around with a few rifles, a 6 pack, and have at it. It's more about land managment and being responsible to supply in nature keeping a balanced amount of deer. I don't think they have more leeway, and I think it's a licensing issue. One who is managing the stocks of deer population against over population and possible interference with the human population and future starvation of the deer, is not going to have an inside link on harvesting, or slaughtering for that matter animals from another stock, especially cows.
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I agree with everyone else in the thread. Save yourself a whole lot of bother and trouble by NOT slaughtering a cow. You could find yourself in a whole lot of trouble with the police if you get found out.

Since you're living in Geneva i don't see why you shouldn't just cross the border to France where you can find halal beef widely available.

Don't try to do it in secret either: those bells around the neck are sure to give you away to your neighbours
Well other then the fact the OP won't be able to bring back more then a kilo at a time. And it's money in the end they are either trying to save or make. I say this, because even if one in the average Swiss apartment purchase two large freezers, which could run to around 2000 CHF for the both, normally they still wouldn't be able to fit the average sized butchered and then packed cow into them.

Therefore it's either to buy a whole lot of freezers to live amongst, or to sell here as well. And let's just say the OP os wealthy enough, to fill their basement with a few freezers, well if I was wealthy enough to spend a couple thousand francs on freezers or an aging room, I would just save the hassle and buy Hallal meat directly from a quality butcher.
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Well if this person had a farm and raised livestock they would be. I know of several farms where the rancher/farmer raises the livestock and takes orders on quanity, then sells it. I think it's rather common.
Of course, it would then be possible, but she isn't a farmer, and doesn't raise livestock. Even for farmers, slaughtering is prohibitively expensive and regulated. (We have a sheep farmer who brings his sheep to graze on our property a few times a year, I asked him once if he slaughtered and he mentioned that it's practically impossible. I also buy beef in large amounts from a local farmer, he said essentially the same.) Not to mention, Halal slaughter is illegal in Switzerland.
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