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Possibly moving to Geneva - need advice

I need a bit of advice. A couple of years ago I was offered a job in Geneva, but had shortly before just arrived and started work in Basel, so I turned it down without burning my bridges.

Now the company have approached me again with a potential offer, not confirmed ye, but a definite possibility. However I really need some specific advice about the area.

I would be working at Quai du Seujet in the city. I will have to live on the French side and have a 5 year old daughter. I need the shortest commute possible but within a reasonable price range for accommodation. Just having a quick look, there doesn't seem so much choice around, without being mega bucks....I would probably pay maximum 1700 euros pcm for a house.

I have 5 year old daughter who is fluent in French already, and would attend local french school. Which villages have the best schools, and periscolaire option?

Which villages have best public transport links......what is parking like in the city? I will be working shifts so times outside of regular working times.

If i get the offer then I will need to act quickly and I won't turn it down again.

Thanks for the help.
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Old 15.06.2012, 18:29
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Which villages have best public transport links......
If "shortest commute" is the criteria then only the ones along bus line F. The rest you can forget about.

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Available but expensive (ca. 350CHF / month).
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Re: Possibly moving to Geneva - need advice

The most convenient option with a car looks like Saint Julien & that is not the most expensive place either (cf Pays de Gex on the CERN side). The drive in is very simple, although the new "Arrangement" at La Jonction is horrible to get past. If you are working outside rush hour, it is a piece of cake. My son is working near there now & he does a short Park & ride. I'll check with him where. However, public transport options from Saint Julien may be useless. Shorrock Mk2 will know....
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Old 15.06.2012, 22:53
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Re: Possibly moving to Geneva - need advice

Won't you be paying French tax and Swiss social payments? I rather prefer the Basel area to the Geneva side: too many problems to overcome down there. High prices, high crime, living and working in different countries, difficult commute, why move?
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Won't you be paying French tax and Swiss social payments? I rather prefer the Basel area to the Geneva side: too many problems to overcome down there. High prices, high crime, living and working in different countries, difficult commute, why move?
Err, no. Income is taxed at source in Geneva. Personally I have not noticed any symptoms of the "high crime" during my 12+ years working in Geneva either. Come on in, the water's lovely .
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Re: Possibly moving to Geneva - need advice

I already pay French Tax and Swiss social payments living and working in and living near Basel.

1. Job offered is a LOT more money - big incentive.
2. Current company is $hit.
3. Boyfriend is there.
4. Daughter if fluent in French and I cannot get a grip with any language because I have to listen to Swiss German, German, Alscacien, French, English and other languages in my company **CONFUSED**

I love Basel, BUT.......time to go me thinks....



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The most convenient option with a car looks like Saint Julien & that is not the most expensive place either (cf Pays de Gex on the CERN side). The drive in is very simple, although the new "Arrangement" at La Jonction is horrible to get past. If you are working outside rush hour, it is a piece of cake. My son is working near there now & he does a short Park & ride. I'll check with him where. However, public transport options from Saint Julien may be useless. Shorrock Mk2 will know....
The thing is if you work quai du seujet public transport from st-Ju is crap. You have to take the D and then change for the tram at Bachet and cross the whole town.

Might be worth doing a comparison of potential transit times on tpg.ch

Another good option but requiring a car is the Collonges sous Saleve area. You can drive to the border then bus 8 - 30 mins to Seujet.
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Actually i ll take that back - apparently D runs all the way to bel-air now.
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Re: Possibly moving to Geneva - need advice

Quai du Seujet is in the heart of the city so transport shouldn't be a problem. I'd probably opt for public transport over taking a car, or you could consider parking at a P+R (Park and Ride) depending on where you're coming from.

Apart from the bus F, which comes from Ferney-Voltaire, and the bus D, which comes from St-Julien, there's also the Tram 12 from the Moillesulaz border and the bus H (I think?) from Hermance.
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Re: Possibly moving to Geneva - need advice

Shorrick Mk2 and FrankZappa seem to be a wealth of information when looking at working in Geneva and living in France.

We are looking at this as an option. And the town of Saint Julien is coming up as a good option.

If you guys could help me with three simple life changing questions....
1. Confirm a public transport option to Geneva city centre - how long it would take and how often they go?
2. We have a 3 year old boy as well and was wondering if it is more advisable to get a school in Geneva or in Saint Julien. An international (English speaking) school would be required initially.
3. Availability of rental properties (ideally a house) with 2 or 3 bedrooms. What kind of price range and is there a recommended web site to find a good place. We won't have a car initially so we need to be in walking distance of the bus stop and shops etc.

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Re: Possibly moving to Geneva - need advice

Here's a quick & partial answer....

For the transport: see Shorrock Mk2's post above - website tpg.ch. Main bus route line D, apparently... I think trains are out.
For the housing: In Google.fr try "location Saint Julien" "Location" is rental in french. My first hit was 100m from the border, nice 2 bedroom flat & 1335€/month. Sounds a lot to me, but I'm way off in France & have had a mortgage for 10 years, so I dunno.

For the schooling, Saint Julien will be 100% french, as far as I know. There is a huge contrast between the international melting pot on the Pays de Gex side & the typical France of Saint Julien. A french colleague who lives in "Saint Ju" tells me that many of his friends never set foot in Geneva.
However, getting a young child to an international school in Geneva from Saint Ju without a car sounds a potential logistic nightmare, so check it out carefully.

Good luck!
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However, getting a young child to an international school in Geneva from Saint Ju without a car sounds a potential logistic nightmare, so check it out carefully.
You should also note that an international school in Geneva will not be cheap.
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1. Confirm a public transport option to Geneva city centre - how long it would take and how often they go?
If you use the Park & Ride at Perly there are 5 buses an hour at peak hours, which take 31 minutes to get to Bel-Air. Off-peak they run at one an hour (worst case).

http://www.tpg.ch/html/pdf/D/DRetourprpe01.pdf
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Re: Possibly moving to Geneva - need advice

St. Julien is probably your best option, buses are frequent into the centre of Geneva, the D from the centre and the 4 from the border at Perly. Housing more likely to be a flat than a house though in the centre (there's a lot of new blocks going up at the moment). Further out you'll find new housing stock in Viry, Vaillery, Vulbens, etc. which are along the Route National (the D shuttle connection runs along there too, every 30 minutes).
Plenty of local french schools, but if you want an international one you'll need to be prepared to travel across the city as I think they're mostly Chêne-Bourg, Versoix way.

There's plenty of recent information on here if you use the search function as your questions have all been asked in recent months and to a large extend already answered.
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