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A few articles on research regarding the link between genetics and obesity, metabolism, etc.:

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Obesity/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1642700/

I suggest anyone read these before making the claim that a correlation does NOT exist.
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I suggest anyone read these before making the claim that a correlation does NOT exist.
Of course there's a correlation - but it doesn't change the fact that losing weight requires burning more calories than are ingested. Genetics just affect predilections, and ultimately how hard or easy it is to gain/lose weight.
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A few articles on research regarding the link between genetics and obesity, metabolism, etc.:

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Obesity/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1642700/

I suggest anyone read these before making the claim that a correlation does NOT exist.
No one is saying there isn't a correlation.

But, if that correlation has always been there then there must be something else, separate from this that has caused the obesity epidemic in the last twenty years in the U.K. and the U.S.
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Old 27.06.2012, 22:56
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Yes, I blame that partially on the fact that we have become a sedentary society. Many of us sit in front of a computer all day for work rather than doing something that actually burns some calories.

But there were some people in this thread that denied a correlation between genetics and obesity.

The fact is -- it's much harder for some people to lose weight or remain thin than it is for others.

And just because you may be one of the few who were lucky enough to get the "skinny genes" doesn't give you the right to make fun of people who haven't.
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No one is saying there isn't a correlation.

But, if that correlation has always been there then there must be something else, separate from this that has caused the obesity epidemic in the last twenty years in the U.K. and the U.S.
Fast foods....big mac, kfc etc
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An interesting take on motivation - a program that donates the weight you lose in food to needy children.

http://tj-arch.tumblr.com/post/26013900634#.T-tnx5GgO00
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Yes, I blame that partially on the fact that we have become a sedentary society. Many of us sit in front of a computer all day for work rather than doing something that actually burns some calories.

But there were some people in this thread that denied a correlation between genetics and obesity.

The fact is -- it's much harder for some people to lose weight or remain thin than it is for others.

And just because you may be one of the few who were lucky enough to get the "skinny genes" doesn't give you the right to make fun of people who haven't.
And - a person's health should not be assumed from weight alone.
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I fully agree - to a point. There is a point of obesity where they cannot be healthy. There's a lot of obsession over shape that's unnecessary - thin, fat, busty, muscular, whatever. Too thin is unhealthy, too fat is unhealthy, most everything else in between can be ok.
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Old 27.06.2012, 23:16
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And just because you may be one of the few who were lucky enough to get the "skinny genes" doesn't give you the right to make fun of people who haven't.
Agreed and well put. However, should those who are lucky enough to be born with the "smart genes" (see post earlier about having good grades without studying) have the right to attack those who haven't build a solid arguement based on research, logic and facts?

In the end, we all have our shortcomings and some are unlucky enough to have more than others. The key is to aknowledge, accept and embrase one's weaknessess thus no amount of ridicule, attacks or social 'norm' will hinder one's happy lifestyle.
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Old 27.06.2012, 23:44
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I actually meant the other ones - the baggy ones.



These are size 48 but I've no idea whether that's too big or not big enough.

If you've got body image problems why would you want to wear the lycra ones?
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Also too small and too short. My thighs meet, if you get the idea...
Kittster is right - for running or "aerobic" sort of exercise, this sort of shorts don't work above a certain thigh shape. As soon as "chub rub" comes into play, the shorts start bunching. Meanwhile, the legs of the lycra ones slide against each other more easily so they not only stay put, but help with any potential chafing.

However, loose shorts are indeed more comfortable and feel cooler if merely sitting around in front of my computer.



Occasional_Canadian, I don't address your posts specifically usually because what you say isn't as irritating as what some of the others say. There is a bit of a history of some of "them" and some of "us" going back and forth with the "ah, it's just excuses" and "well, there may be excuses, but there are also 'reasons'", and it always just ends up being dropped.

People who are fat, unless they are young enough to have their parents in the doctor office with them, have heard many many things about how to lose weight. Things about metabolism, about eating right, about caloric intake, about "bad food" vs "good food" - so hearing about it on an internet forum, when someone initially asked for helpful advice on where to find activities or whatever, they really don't go down well. ESPECIALLY when coupled with negative stereotypes either with words or images rather than actual suggestions (Haters presents a mighty fine example of such off-putting behavior).


Tom - I do appreciate that you looked at the shorts, it at least is starting to seem that you're taking some of what I'm saying in. For me, losing weight hits some on what Kittster said recently - my fat is my armor. As long as I stay fat, I know what direction the jibes are going to come from. I grew up with my father calling my siblings and I all sorts of nasty things, peers calling me ugly (okay, I was, all big ears, freckles and goofy curls sticking every which way) - as long as I'm fat, I know that the "worst" that people will say is something I know - "hey, you're fat".

The other thing is something I've said before - I hate, hate really really hate to feel sweaty. It isn't the being wet from sweat that bothers me, it is the feeling of my clothes sticking to my skin. It actually disgusts me. Aside from that, exercise is uncomfortable - I don't mean the muscle burn, but chafing in some places and, just as painful, boobs going everywhere, after a short while, it actually hurts.

I used to work out with my brother and boyfriend long ago. I like the muscle burn. I can swim all day. I can cycle all day too - as long as the seat isn't killing my tail. I don't dislike exercise - I get bored doing it on my own, I don't like having my clothes stick to me, I dislike the rude comments and looks people give when wearing clothing designed for the task.

As far as losing weight goes, well, I've done it before. When I'm ready, I'll do it again. The way that works best for me, doesn't work with my current lifestyle - and changes I try to make are met with resistance and derision. I think that when I AM ready, it will be about more than just losing the extra weight on my body though, there are worse problems going on in my life here than "simply" being fat.


I don't really have advice for OP. When I have lost weight and kept it off, I made drastic changes to my diet. Because of how I ate then, I have no idea how long I had a diseased gallbladder, which is something that is pretty common in my family, as I ate maybe 10 - 15g of fat per day before dinner. I also woke up early and went for a long walk alone. I did exercises using props to make up for things that may be difficult because of my figure this was necessary because with my "blessing" of a chest, doing normal pushups, even when I was "athletic build" were never comfortable. I don't want weak arms or pecs, but I don't want to squash my girls either.

These things can be tough to do if you're not the only one in the house. Such a restrictive diet is tough to carry through when cooking for one, and it's actually a bad idea if you're feeding a child because they do need more fat than that.

On the other hand, doing things this way, I was able to stay at the weight I wanted to be (roughly size 16 US aka 46 here) for years. That's my goal. I have never wanted to be "skinny" - I hated being a skinny ugly kid, I look better with a slightly rounded face, rounded hips and chest. I can do everything I want to do at that size - swimming, cycling, strength training. I still wouldn't run, boobs of steel are not something I desire to wear, just to keep the girls in line, not ever.
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Yes, I blame that partially on the fact that we have become a sedentary society. Many of us sit in front of a computer all day for work rather than doing something that actually burns some calories.

I don't. Current thought is that we're eating too much of the wrong sort of foods too often.
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Re: fat bum

The honesty in this thread is refreshing.

In terms of ugly comments referring to clothes one wears in gym - guys, there ain't nutin better than just wearing something completely wrong. Like old pyjama bottoms I sewed 15 years ago. Perfect and completely unflattering. Wear it with pride, ostentatiously if one wishes, but wtvr. Now, nobody has any chance to chuckle at me and make me feel bad. Comfort is overrated. Getting toned is far from comfortable. I purposely go to gym dressed like a yodel to remind myself vanity slows one down. The old pants make me realize how much I still search challenging any possible funkiness.

There are little tricks one can do to help oneself into the bootcamp equals results mode.

Now, first step would be, realize this very thread is not about you. Chant it. Ignore anyone's judgment. You have your own plan..

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Personally, I've never understood those girls who get done up like they're going on a night out just to work out. I look really skanky in the gym (skanky in the British sense - disgusting). My clothing is appropriate and I don't worry that I'm not wearing make-up and my tits aren't pushed up to my eyeballs. There is one guy who goes to my gym who I like to call Shorty McShortShorts. He really needs to just stop.
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make up + gym =

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The honesty in this thread is refreshing.

In terms of ugly comments referring to clothes one wears in gym - guys, there ain't nutin better than just wearing something completely wrong. Like old pyjama bottoms I sewed 15 years ago. Perfect and completely unflattering. Wear it with pride, ostentatiously if one wishes, but wtvr. Now, nobody has any chance to chuckle at me and make me feel bad. Comfort is overrated. Getting toned is far from comfortable. I purposely go to gym dressed like a yodel to remind myself vanity slows one down. The old pants make me realize how much I still search challenging any possible funkiness.

There are little tricks one can do to help oneself into the bootcamp equals results mode.

Now, first step would be, realize this very thread is not about you. Chant it. Ignore anyone's judgment. You have your own plan..

I'm curious. Do you not trip over your pants bottoms? It's not comfort, exactly, but freedom of movement that's critical, to me anyways.
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I never trip, and I have them rolled at the top if I need my knees, legs high. Way nicer than anything tight. Work clothes would do if I had to, it doesn't matter. I spent first half of my life skiing in jeans, hahahah..

But then the nifty hitech gear/clothes do impress me when I get time to notice.
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Re: fat bum

On the subject of what to wear when working out - does it really matter that much?

I sweat like a mofo when I exercise and don't wear anything special. I just let myself get sweat patches all over and don't bother with fancy fabrics. I usually wear a cheap t-shirt from Primark and some jogging pants. Believe me when I say they're ill-fitting and ghetto. You can do this at any weight. I did it at a US size 0 and I do it now at a 4. I have a friend in the UK who is a size 16 and she buys the same joggers and t-shirts at Primark although wears them for lounging.

T-shirts and jogging pants are almost always available in bigger sizes provided you're not going for some designer/high-end ones. I'm not trying to minimize the frustration of finding clothing that fits. I'm just saying it's okay to look like crap when you workout as people like me do! ;p
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I can tell you it will work, if you eat 1000 calories a day for 90 days & burn up 2000 calaries a day you will lose about 11.5 kilo. The secret is not to go from eating 1000 back to 2500 and be surprised the weight returns in 6 months it will!
Point 1 : I agree this works... I did it and the weight eventually came off & stayed off...but

Point 2: I would rate the willpower quotient exceedingly high for this approach & per the OP seems to be a bit the problem here.
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Darlings, at size 0-4, of course you can wear a potato sack if you want to and still look great Heck, when i was size 4, I went to gym in shorts and a sports bra, didn't even need any clothes.
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Don't you fat people run out of excuses? Do you even hear yourself? Here is an idea, record your excuses and play it back







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