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Police - Stop and Frisk

What are the rules governing Police stop and searches? I live in Brooklyn, NY and folks here are kinda sensitive about the Stop and Frisk police tactics due to profiling. Is Stop and Frisk a common police strategy in Switzerland?

I was down at the Sihlquai last week and observed the police 'randomly' stop and search 3 different groups. After a pat down and search of possessions, 2 of the stops resulted in all being let go. In the third, the police found a nice fat sack of ganja (5 grams at least). I was expecting the cops to slap cuffs on the guys and take him, but they just wrote him a ticket and went on their way. Seemed like a whole lot of work, just to write a ticket.
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did you get your ganja back?
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Re: Police - Stop and Frisk

Swiss police are very relaxed when it comes to weed. Police have every right to search any person they feel looks suspicious. It does't happen to often. Mostly to young people who are looking shady. Particularly for underage drinking. I've never heard of a case foreigners being pick out for frisks.
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What are the rules governing Police stop and searches? I live in Brooklyn, NY and folks here are kinda sensitive about the Stop and Frisk police tactics due to profiling. Is Stop and Frisk a common police strategy in Switzerland?

I was down at the Sihlquai last week and observed the police 'randomly' stop and search 3 different groups. After a pat down and search of possessions, 2 of the stops resulted in all being let go. In the third, the police found a nice fat sack of ganja (5 grams at least). I was expecting the cops to slap cuffs on the guys and take him, but they just wrote him a ticket and went on their way. Seemed like a whole lot of work, just to write a ticket.
Here you have to forget about words like profiling, this is really unlike anywhere else and in many eyes view un pc, they however don't give a toss what people think and do things the way they do them.

As the above post says if they found some pot, big deal, ticket and telling off perhaps; you will be smelling loads of it at any station, but I would be very wary of stoping them searching you if they are so enclined. Cops will be very friendly until you step into their black area. Most things are black and white here with very few shades of grey.

you have to understand that this is a country where if drunken teenagers were throwing litter about an 80 year old woman will most likely tell them off and insist they pick it up, 9 times out of 10 they will and apologise!
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Re: Police - Stop and Frisk

Yeah, good points. If you are coming here from NYC then welcome to a much much much lower crime environment. Coppers are coppers in any country and a portion will be power crazed tossers, so trying to explain their own laws to the them would likely do you about as much good as in NYC. For people who've lived in big cities like NYC and London, it's quite amusing to go to what Swiss think are dodgy neighbourhoods here. Very tame. Enjoy.
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There's a small area not far from a kids' play area at the Chinagarten which is often visited by the local police looking for drugs. The police have dogs with them and it's amazing how many times they come up trumps and find something, hauling off one or two of them in handcuffs.

I'm not really a criminal mastermind but I'm amazed that these dodgy blokes keep coming back to the same spot where they must know the police are going to roll around at some point. Especially if it's all happening in the vicinity of a kids' play area - for the police it must be like the proverbial shooting fish in a barrel...
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I'm not really a criminal mastermind but I'm amazed that these dodgy blokes keep coming back to the same spot where they must know the police are going to roll around at some point. Especially if it's all happening in the vicinity of a kids' play area - for the police it must be like the proverbial shooting fish in a barrel...
Thing is Chinagarten, Sihlquai, around Letten and a few other areas are known spots for buying drugs, so the small dealers go there because that's where the clients are. And since quite a few of the dealers have ongoing asylum requests it's not like they'd pay the fine either.. It's about time we decriminalize weed anyway, it's not like it ever stopped anyone from smoking in the public..
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Thing is Chinagarten, Sihlquai, around Letten and a few other areas are known spots for buying drugs, so the small dealers go there because that's where the clients are. And since quite a few of the dealers have ongoing asylum requests it's not like they'd pay the fine either.. It's about time we decriminalize weed anyway, it's not like it ever stopped anyone from smoking in the public..
I just wish they'd bugger off from the kids' area but that's another thread...
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Re: Police - Stop and Frisk

total rubbish, seriously a man can walk the streets of portland in the US with a weapon and then when concerned neighbours call the police can not even check the individuals identity (does he need to have a permit?) Insane!

He was rather respectful in his tone using lots of "sirs" but still...i found him repugnent. He may need the police one day...
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total rubbish, seriously a man can walk the streets of portland in the US with a weapon and then when concerned neighbours call the police can not even check the individuals identity (does he need to have a permit?) Insane!

He was rather respectful in his tone using lots of "sirs" but still...i found him repugnent. He may need the police one day...
That's just another country with another set of laws and rights. The Americans and Canadians are very proud of their freedom 'unreasonable search and seizure' and many Americans are very proud of their 'right to bear arms'.

As such, I do feel there is a high level of prejudice in the rights police have here to expose anyone to a full body search and incarceration based on nothing more than their physical appearance. But again, it is a difference country and culture and I respect that.
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