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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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Zürich did the transport revolution in the last 10 years, simultaneously increasing city parking fees, adding and modernising trams, changing the circulation plan (short red lights etc) and adding bicycle lanes.
The old 1910s and 1920ies trams were replaced by modern ones in the 1960ies, and the S-Bahnen got introduced in May 1990, which means 22 years ago !
And the Rail-Tunnel between Wollishofen and Wiedikon was opened in 1927 and was THE transport-revolution in Zürich. In about two years, the direct tunnel between Zürich-HB and Zch-Oerlikon will be opened, the number of S-lines in Oerlikon risen from 7 to 12, a new shopping zone in Oerlikon below the station will be open also on Sundays. But the REAL transport "revolution" was done by Alfred von Escher when he opened Zch-HB and made Zürich into a kind of railways-hub

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I have also noted that property prices have crept up quite a bit, no doubt influenced quite a bit by the expat market.
There seems to be more germans here than ten years ago, although perhaps that is subjective.
The seebads seem more crowded.
There does seem to be more cycle lanes.
There of course are more Germans around now than for more than a century. It must have been similar after 1848. Let's not forget that it to quite an extent were Germans who, directly or indirectly in the service of Alfred von Escher, helped to build up ETH, University, University-Hospital and National Museum.

But all this is NOT a one-way-road. Also in the past, Swiss people went to Germany to find jobs AND to do careers

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Isn't StreetParade 20 years old this year and in decline from its peak around 10 years ago?
The Street Parade has become a very important feature for tourism. And the number of participants has come down a bit but is still remarkable. Beside the point that lots of participants nowadays stay in middle-class hotels, combine their visit with lots of shopping. This means that it has become a mix of fun and business.

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I thought pub closing times were optional by 1999
Suppose you are right. But what counted to me was that I very often was surprised by the odd closing times of pubs in Britain and on the Channel Islands. I mean I was NOT looking at the matter from a legal point of view, I just wanted to get a glass of port

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Old 28.07.2012, 10:08
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

Seems to have got warmer in the last 20 years; much less snow in Winter & it was a regular Winter thing for the fountains to freeze but no more or very rarely.

Now one can speak Hoch Deutsch everywhere; 20 years ago many people refused or claimed not understand.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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But unlike rural London of 1999, pubs in the Zürich of the 60ies and 70ies were not closing at 11pm
But I'm pretty sure that in Zurich most bars, pubs and restaurants (except a few with special permits) had to close at midnight until not very long ago (20 years or even less), isn't it?

Doesn't make that much of a difference...
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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Now one can speak Hoch Deutsch everywhere; 20 years ago many people refused or claimed not understand.

Yeah, this was the time when we still felt homelike in our country.


Don’t like to say “the good old time”, but for me in the last 20years too many people came with disrespects to my country, my language, my culture. No need to kick them out, they will leave by themselves when having destroyed the quality of live here.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

@gwunderri, Why are you whining about foreigners on a forum catered to English speaking foreigners living in CH?
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Seems to have got warmer in the last 20 years; much less snow in Winter & it was a regular Winter thing for the fountains to freeze but no more or very rarely.

Now one can speak Hoch Deutsch everywhere; 20 years ago many people refused or claimed not understand.
Not really. Everybody, at least most people understood and spoke Standard German. What you apparently witnessed is that the Germans in the 1950ies and 60ies and into the 70ies were exceedingly unpopular in Switzerland. But already Arthur Conan Doyle spoke High German everywhere in Switzerland, and that was a century ago

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But I'm pretty sure that in Zurich most bars, pubs and restaurants (except a few with special permits) had to close at midnight until not very long ago (20 years or even less), isn't it?

Doesn't make that much of a difference...
It was, and in a way still is MIDNIGHT "Polizeistunde" ! But many people for ages entered bars just an hour before, and this for ages. YES, it often is THE difference. AND I might have expected the Capital of the British Emp...., sorry I mean of Great Britain, to be a bit more metropolis-like than Zürich, but that for many decades was not the case I for decades combined holiday trips to Paris, the Channel Islands and London, and while there were many places, including the charming Brasseries Alsaciens on the Avenue de l'Opéra, open throughout the night, it in London was a world of a difference. Sure, on the bottom line, the Capital of the Empire in my regard leads over the Capital of the Grande Nation by many points, but this is an aspect in favour of Paris

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Yeah, this was the time when we still felt homelike in our country.


Don’t like to say “the good old time”, but for me in the last 20years too many people came with disrespects to my country, my language, my culture. No need to kick them out, they will leave by themselves when having destroyed the quality of live here.
What kind of respect do you expect
A) for the country, from immigrants or from tourists ?
B) for the languages here, from immigrants or from tourists ?
C) the cultures here, from immigrants or from tourists ?

I do NOT see them destroying the quality of life. SOME people, immigrants, tourists and natives alike maybe are doing so. But most people of all three categories are not.

And I fail to see why you felt more homelike in the 1950ies and 60ies

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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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I thought pub closing times were optional by 1999
Believe it or not, relaxed licensing in the UK has only happened in 2006!


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Yeah, this was the time when we still felt homelike in our country.


Don’t like to say “the good old time”, but for me in the last 20years too many people came with disrespects to my country, my language, my culture. No need to kick them out, they will leave by themselves when having destroyed the quality of live here.
Kick us all out then and close your borders. See how many properties get built without the cheaper labour. Watch the multinational companies leave because Switzerland for all its advantages doesn't produce enough highly skilled people to keep those company headquarters running.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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But unlike rural London of 1999, pubs in the Zürich of the 60ies and 70ies were not closing at 11pm
If you take Zürich in the wider context of the Kanton not just the city then you will find many/most bars & restaurants closing at 11pm or even earlier.

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Not really. Everybody, at least most people understood and spoke Standard German. What you apparently witnessed is that the Germans in the 1950ies and 60ies and into the 70ies were exceedingly unpopular in Switzerland.
Just quoting my own experience in restaurants, shops & similar. I know my experience is just a limited sample.

About "Germans in the 1950ies and 60ies and into the 70ies were exceedingly unpopular in Switzerland"
Could be, I had some German colleagues who would order in English language in restaurants - they said they got better service!
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Believe it or not, relaxed licensing in the UK has only happened in 2006!
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Kick us all out then and close your borders. See how many properties get built without the cheaper labour. Watch the multinational companies leave because Switzerland for all its advantages doesn't produce enough highly skilled people to keep those company headquarters running.
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Those borders are NOT "his" borders, and are NOT the borders of a particular party. And this means that exactly the highly skilled people "produced" in Switzerland would in case of a border-closure get out, even more than already in the past. You see, Swiss expats by their thousands, are managing companies around the globe. Another reality is that Swiss Secondos abroad often only speak their languages of origin in a rather limited way, and not only are not full of "respect" for their native country but see holidays "there" as a boring "Familie-Türck"
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If you take Zürich in the wider context of the Kanton not just the city then you will find many/most bars & restaurants closing at 11pm or even earlier.
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I did not refer to St. Mary Mead or Knieritz-an-der-Knatter or Bünzen

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Just quoting my own experience in restaurants, shops & similar. I know my experience is just a limited sample.
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I have no doubts about your personal experience, and I suppose that what you experienced is not limited, but widespread . It however has nothing to do what those people can speak or can understand. It has to do with the intentional unfriendliness towards whomever is perceived as a German.

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About "Germans in the 1950ies and 60ies and into the 70ies were exceedingly unpopular in Switzerland"
Could be, I had some German colleagues who would order in English language in restaurants - they said they got better service!
Ohhh, I am perfectly sure, they got it completely RIGHT
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Believe it or not, relaxed licensing in the UK has only happened in 2006!
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Relaxed licensing occured in August 1995, where Pubs could stay open all day, I did not realise they were limited to 10.30 pm till 2006, there seemed to be plenty of places with special licenses that were open later.
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