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How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

I was out for dinner last night and the discussion turned to how Zurich has changed in the last ten years, since I got here.

Anyone have a view to share?

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Old 27.07.2012, 11:10
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

When I first visited ZH in 2001 I got the sense that it was stuck in the 80's. Today it feels completely different, it's now the 90's.
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Old 27.07.2012, 12:20
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When I first visited ZH in 2001 I got the sense that it was stuck in the 80's. Today it feels completely different, it's now the 90's.
In 1994 it was like rural England around 1975.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

It's got closer to where I live.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

There's been so much development in and around Zurich. In the past 11 years I've seen areas which were a bit rural kind of get sucked into the main hub of the city.

The ZuriWest area has really smartened itself up and become a bit trendy.

I think the people have lightened up a bit, too, or maybe I've just got used to it. People seem to be a lot more open than they used to be.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

I feel like it's still same except the new buildings were built here and there and new roads were made..
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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I feel like it's still same except the new buildings were built here and there and new roads were made..
I actually like that they closed the road along the limmatquai.... i had almost forgotten how crappy that was with so much traffic.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

they now have electricity and running water in almost all homes
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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There's been so much development in and around Zurich. In the past 11 years I've seen areas which were a bit rural kind of get sucked into the main hub of the city.

The ZuriWest area has really smartened itself up and become a bit trendy.

I think the people have lightened up a bit, too, or maybe I've just got used to it. People seem to be a lot more open than they used to be.
It was just another second hand car lot Auto Zuri Hardturm with cars swopping from AZW in Schlieren!
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Old 27.07.2012, 13:41
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

There's a #17 tram now. It's a purple line .....

Er, and the Germanz invaded, about 70 years later than our military strategists had reckoned with.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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I was out for dinner last night and the discussion turned to how Zurich has changed in the last ten years, since I got here.

Anyone have a view to share?


In my opinion Zurich has suffered. In general it's lowered its standards. Obviously the town has had to change to accomodate everything that has been laid on its doorstep thanks to blatant consumerism. But: the Bahnhofstrasse is now a second Oxford Street, there are c-r-a-p restaurants everywhere and nowhere left (with a few exceptions) to drink a coffee. Transport is crowded at all times of the day, we have the debris of things such as this horrible, untalented, TeleZüri supported uncreative arse show called the 'Street parade'. There is litter everywhere, beer bottles and Red Bull tins thrown under every bench, quality has been thrown out of the window, stolen bicycles lying on the grass verges, the service in the shops is ghastly, Jelmoli looks like an import from Saudi Arabia, Franz Karl Weber (as it's apparently still called) is an import from Las Vegas, everything made of plastic, nowhere decent to sit and watch the world go by, nobody goes by foot onto the Uetliberg any more to see the sun come up, - and so on.

Unfortunately, and in spite of everything, I still LOVE IT.

And I'm obviously talking about changes that have happened in my lifetime here - since 1960.
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

Zürich did the transport revolution in the last 10 years, simultaneously increasing city parking fees, adding and modernising trams, changing the circulation plan (short red lights etc) and adding bicycle lanes.
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Old 27.07.2012, 16:17
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

I'm going back over 25 years, but the same applies for 10.

It's dirtier with litter a common sight now.

Zurich remains in a frenzied state of reconstruction, that will never end. Places just completed 25 years ago are now due for Sanierung again.

There are 1000s less parking spaces, which has actually made parking in the city easier as fewer dare take their cars in.

High German is nearly as common as Swiss German and English is more popular than both...
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

Remember how you could travel at rush hour and get a seat on the train or the tram?
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

There is now a new sense of confidence and a positive outlook for the future.

There is no longer a requirement in the building code for a nuclear fallout shelter.
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Old 27.07.2012, 17:34
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

I have also noted that property prices have crept up quite a bit, no doubt influenced quite a bit by the expat market.
There seems to be more germans here than ten years ago, although perhaps that is subjective.
The seebads seem more crowded.
There does seem to be more cycle lanes.

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we have the debris of things such as this horrible, untalented, TeleZüri supported uncreative arse show called the 'Street parade'.
Isn't StreetParade 20 years old this year and in decline from its peak around 10 years ago?
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Re: How has Zurich changed in the last ten years?

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In 1994 it was like rural England around 1975.
Funny, I could state exactly the same....
....just the other way round.. ;-)
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In 1994 it was like rural England around 1975.
But unlike rural London of 1999, pubs in the Zürich of the 60ies and 70ies were not closing at 11pm

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There's been so much development in and around Zurich. In the past 11 years I've seen areas which were a bit rural kind of get sucked into the main hub of the city.

The ZuriWest area has really smartened itself up and become a bit trendy.

I think the people have lightened up a bit, too, or maybe I've just got used to it. People seem to be a lot more open than they used to be.
The Züri-West area between Langstrasse and Dietikon was until about 1990 what Scott Fitzgerald described as "a valley of ashes"

My grandfather who had lived in Zürich in 1903 to 05, and visited Zürich regularily until 1955, already in 1946 concluded that Zürchers had lightened up a bit, and had become more open !

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they now have electricity and running water in almost all homes
We now have 2012 and not 1912
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In my opinion Zurich has suffered. In general it's lowered its standards. Obviously the town has had to change to accomodate everything that has been laid on its doorstep thanks to blatant consumerism. But: the Bahnhofstrasse is now a second Oxford Street, there are c-r-a-p restaurants everywhere and nowhere left (with a few exceptions) to drink a coffee.
And I'm obviously talking about changes that have happened in my lifetime here - since 1960.
The Bahnhofstrasse was built on the basis of the Fröschengraben

with the then fairly new Boulevards of Paris in mind

Since 1960 ? are you sure that it is not 1860

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But unlike rural London of 1999, pubs in the Zürich of the 60ies and 70ies were not closing at 11pm
I thought pub closing times were optional by 1999
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