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What? Opening a door with your bare hands?

Careful stepping outside people, there might be minutes specks of dust and/or fecal material floating in the air.
We were talking about sitting on a public toilet, no?
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You guys over there never heard of "Duct tape"?
Do a wipe & wax?
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some of the things I'm hearing on here are borderline OCD...

It's not borderline OCD... It actually IS OCD

OCDs are thought to be caused by underlying anxieties, people have different coping mechanisms with these anxieties, and making sure that the toilet seat is squeaky clean, and most importantly having an exact sequence of actions that needs to be taken, is one of these mechanisms. The symptoms vary. Do you use your elbows to switch on/off the light? Do you turn off the water taps after you dried your hands using paper towels? Do you collect all receipts from your shopping trips? Do you have certain hoard of unusual items? Do you always buy things in twos / threes?
Another thing to note is that what diffrentiate a person with an OCD and someone who is just a little bit quirky is the reaction if you try and interfere with their ritual or the way they do thing, they will get irritated and angry, and will have to perform the ritual again before they get back to normal.

Some symptoms are fairly mild and will disappear by themselves as the underlying anxieties subside and as the person start to realise that their behaviour is irrational. Some will linger and become worse and might require professional help.
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It's not borderline OCD... It actually IS OCD :msnshock:

OCDs are thought to be caused by underlying anxieties, people have different coping mechanisms with these anxieties, and making sure that the toilet seat is squeaky clean, and most importantly having an exact sequence of actions that needs to be taken, is one of these mechanisms. The symptoms vary. Do you use your elbows to switch on/off the light? Do you turn off the water taps after you dried your hands using paper towels? Do you collect all receipts from your shopping trips? Do you have certain hoard of unusual items? Do you always buy things in twos / threes?
Another thing to note is that what diffrentiate a person with an OCD and someone who is just a little bit quirky is the reaction if you try and interfere with their ritual or the way they do thing, they will get irritated and angry, and will have to perform the ritual again before they get back to normal.

Some symptoms are fairly mild and will disappear by themselves as the underlying anxieties subside and as the person start to realise that their behaviour is irrational. Some will linger and become worse and might require professional help.
Wanting a clean public toilet before to sit is hardly OCD. It is all others actions coming with it.

I just don't sit on a public toilet.
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You can use my loo, any time.

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Wanting a clean public toilet before to sit is hardly OCD. It is all others actions coming with it.

I just don't sit on a public toilet.
Wanting a clean public toilet is one thing, noone wants to use a toilet seat with visible dirt. The problem arises when the toilet seat is considered clean by the majority of people and the person still insists on not using it, or getting it through a thorough cleaning ritual before they are prepared to sit on it.

You don't sit on a public toilet? Why not? It's irrational behaviour, I used to do the same and have to wait till I go home to take a poop, now I'm happy to stink up the whole place and walk out with a smug smile on my face almost every day

The good thing about people not wanting to sit on public toilets is that it remains fairly clean! I mean if noone sits on them, I'm happy having my own private toilet cubicle at work

I also prefer it if someone has already sat on the seat... as it warms it up for me... I mean don't you just hate that feeling when you sit down on a cold toilet seat and the turtle head kinda retracts because it's so cold!
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It's not borderline OCD... It actually IS OCD

OCDs are thought to be caused by underlying anxieties, people have different coping mechanisms with these anxieties, and making sure that the toilet seat is squeaky clean, and most importantly having an exact sequence of actions that needs to be taken, is one of these mechanisms. The symptoms vary. Do you use your elbows to switch on/off the light? Do you turn off the water taps after you dried your hands using paper towels? Do you collect all receipts from your shopping trips? Do you have certain hoard of unusual items? Do you always buy things in twos / threes?
Another thing to note is that what diffrentiate a person with an OCD and someone who is just a little bit quirky is the reaction if you try and interfere with their ritual or the way they do thing, they will get irritated and angry, and will have to perform the ritual again before they get back to normal.

Some symptoms are fairly mild and will disappear by themselves as the underlying anxieties subside and as the person start to realise that their behaviour is irrational. Some will linger and become worse and might require professional help.
I am definitely not OCD. However, if you prefer to sit on another man's ass juice and pubic hair, then be my guest....I simply chose not to. Also, the other thought behind it, is when a person doesn't care about his/her hygiene in a public place (such as the work toilet)...then it is only fair to assume that he/she won't care about more detrimental matters. There is a reason why sterile environements support a healthy life. The body won't have to fight off crap (no pun intended) with every action you take.
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Wanting a clean public toilet is one thing, noone wants to use a toilet seat with visible dirt. The problem arises when the toilet seat is considered clean by the majority of people and the person still insists on not using it, or getting it through a thorough cleaning ritual before they are prepared to sit on it.

You don't sit on a public toilet? Why not? It's irrational behaviour, I used to do the same and have to wait till I go home to take a poop, now I'm happy to stink up the whole place and walk out with a smug smile on my face almost every day

The good thing about people not wanting to sit on public toilets is that it remains fairly clean! I mean if noone sits on them, I'm happy having my own private toilet cubicle at work
It is not an irrational behavior just because everyone else think it is clean it doesn't mean it is. I have experienced a lot of home visits where people believed to live in a clean house and well, it was disturbing. I trully appreciate and miss the cleaning rules when you leave your apartment in Switzerland.

Back to e toilet seat, I see too often toilet seat with pee drops on it, caca and even blood.

Wiping it off won't convince me it is enough clean. I am also pretty regular and go early in the morning if you need me to share so I have no need to go do a big job in public toilets.
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There is a reason why sterile environements support a healthy life.
case in point, recent pictures from the Mars landing of the rover Curiosity




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I think hovering over the seat (for women, at least) makes the problem worse. I've lost count of how many times I've been to a public toilet and the seat has been sprinkled with dribbles of wee. This wouldn't have happened if the bum had been on the seat.

Now, I am certainly not OCD but don't really fancy sitting in little puddles of someone else's wee.

The bits of skin that come in contact with the toilet seat are no different than those bits of you that come into contact with a seat you would find at a swimming pool which people sit in with a swimming costume and I never see anyone giving those seats a clinical once-over before sitting in them.
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I am definitely not OCD. However, if you prefer to sit on another man's ass juice and pubic hair, then be my guest....I simply chose not to. Also, the other thought behind it, is when a person doesn't care about his/her hygiene in a public place (such as the work toilet)...then it is only fair to assume that he/she won't care about more detrimental matters. There is a reason why sterile environements support a healthy life. The body won't have to fight off crap (no pun intended) with every action you take.
Giving a toilet seat a quick wipe if necessary is one thing, but to waste reams of bogroll to construct a protective barrier is quite another.
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I think hovering over the seat (for women, at least) makes the problem worse. I've lost count of how many times I've been to a public toilet and the seat has been sprinkled with dribbles of wee. This wouldn't have happened if the bum had been on the seat.

Now, I am certainly not OCD but don't really fancy sitting in little puddles of someone else's wee.

The bits of skin that come in contact with the toilet seat are no different than those bits of you that come into contact with a seat you would find at a swimming pool which people sit in with a swimming costume and I never see anyone giving those seats a clinical once-over before sitting in them.
Chlorine in the pools take care of it.
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Giving a toilet seat a quick wipe if necessary is one thing, but to waste reams of bogroll to construct a protective barrier is quite another.
That's your opinion...but don't knock me for prefering to have a clean toiletseat.
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Ever watch the scene in Slumdog Millionaire where Jamal is locked in the toilet by his brother when a famous Bollywood star is visiting and Jamal is desperate to see his hero?
What would you have done?

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There is a reason why sterile environements support a healthy life. The body won't have to fight off crap (no pun intended) with every action you take.
The majority of bacteria isn't harmful for people and living in a sterile environment might even make you sick.

Studies showed that kids who grow up on a farm have less problems with allergies than kids from a city environment. Dirt is good for you!
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I suggest that sensitive people should never leave their home without one of these:

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There is a reason why sterile environements support a healthy life. The body won't have to fight off crap (no pun intended) with every action you take.
Sorry but I completely disagree with this. A sterile environment is not condusive to a healthy life. You need to be exposed to germs for your immune system to strengthen. Of course most of your immunity is developed as a child so you have pretty much nothing to worry about.

If god forbid you sit on a piece of someone else's poop, pubic hair or menstrual blood then what's the big deal, wipe clean and carry on.

People have a shower every day, sometimes more than once a day, whatever dirt you gather during the day will be washed off anyway. I really wouldn't lose any sleep over this.

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Back to e toilet seat, I see too often toilet seat with pee drops on it, caca and even blood.

Wiping it off won't convince me it is enough clean.
Why is wiping it off not gonna make it clean enough? What's the worst that's gonna happen?
Like I said I'm not the one to judge I have my own rituals but I guess this is not OCD Anonymous so no need to go into the details here But I learned to question my own actions, is it slightly unusual? is it really needed? Can I live with the consequences? Unless something is life threatening or will cause me severe pain I'm not too bothered.
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Sorry but I completely disagree with this. A sterile environment is not condusive to a healthy life. You need to be exposed to germs for your immune system to strengthen. Of course most of your immunity is developed as a child so you have pretty much nothing to worry about.

If god forbid you sit on a piece of someone else's poop, pubic hair or menstrual blood then what's the big deal, wipe clean and carry on.

People have a shower every day, sometimes more than once a day, whatever dirt you gather during the day will be washed off anyway. I really wouldn't lose any sleep over this.
THe notion that you need dirt ot boost your imune system is a myth. The more your body needs to fight off a harmful substance, the more it is weakened. This isn't like working out a muscle..."oh, I've had cholera...I will never have a flu again!"
Also, the bacteria on a toilet seat might not be all that harmful...but it could act as a catalyst for more serious illness. If dirt were really that good for you, then they wouldn't keep hospitals that sterile.
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I don't touch anything: open/close doors with paper, open/close tap with paper, turn light on/off with paper.

I've complained a couple of times of not enough negative air pressure in toilets.

I understand your feelings about toilets and people using them.
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These are installed, hopefully temporarily, at our local train station, and they are awful, horrible stench. Even my son refused to go in them and preferred to use a tree. The floating beer cans didn't help either.

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