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Re: What's you favourite Swiss mineral water?

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From the tap. I don't waste money on "mineral" water.
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That's my logic too.
People back at home in Canada are willing to pay $2 for a bottle of Evian. Yet, it pretty much flows out of the tap here!

But if I need my bubble fix, I just buy the cheapest Denner branded water.
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Tap water for me too. Tastes good and a lot cheaper than the bottled stuff.
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Anyone who buys 'mineral' water in Switzeralnd earns too much.
Fascinating and not at all predictable!

It isn't what the OP asked though!

So - all you communist sheep - if you are shopping in the middle of town and it is 30c, you never buy a bottle of water?? Never??

You are like those people who say - "I never buy Diesel jeans, you can buy great demin in Lidl, brands are such a waste of money, I never fall for that." Nonsense.

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Do you have a link for the whole video, that excerpt just touches on the profit margins of a manufacturing process. Not news, except to the naive.
Not totally true. Brands like Dasani which are effectively tap water which has been through a filter are lower cost to produce and ship than "source" waters that must come from Evian or Voss or similar, but they also sell at a lower price as they don't command that premium.

Imagine a $2 bottle of Evian for sale in the US. 40% of that is retailer margin, leaving $1.20. What do you think it costs to pack and ship that water? 50c? Probably more, but that leaves 70c. The bottle and cap - another 20c. Advertising, running the factory, the sales salaries, you've probably got around 20c left for profit and processing the water itself. So I'm not crying for the producers, but it isn't anywhere CLOSE to the profits made on Colas or Energy Drinks for example.

What people tend to forget is that this industry has (Porters Five Forces Fans!) VERY low barriers to entry. Anybody can bottle water, it takes no special knowledge or equipment. In that kind of industry, margins are almost always squeezed. People always assume that water companies make loads of money because water is free, right? But what % of the cost of other bottles or mass produced foods is actually in the ingredients - not very much at all. And those things typically sell for a premium

OP - To answer the question, I drink tap water too when I'm at home, but when I'm out I drink San Pelligrino in the street, or if I'm eating out, I drink Arctic Club - which is made from the distilled tears of baby seals.
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There's usually fuzzy water that pools around the plughole after I've shaved my legs, does that count?

Was that TMI?
There may by fuzzy water but most of you without hesitation drink
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for most people, tap water is essentially the same as most bottled waters. But there are people who have distinct taste abilities for water, and for them it makes a big difference on different bottled water's appeal. Personally, I don't think much of people who have 'snobby' sensing abilities, however, they are worth a fortune in the manufacturing industry. Some have they sensing ability insured for millions. File that in the WTF category IMHO.
Tapwater is not the same everywhere. I mean what in Glattbrugg comes out of the tap is not what you get in Zürich-Stadt or in Kilchberg etc, but rather is Lägern-Light (= liquefied limestone)

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Re: What's you favourite Swiss mineral water?

I have bad tradition now , Tap water it can not make anything for me when i want drink and it is like i am not drinking at all , since years i drink only gas water and it should be very cold .

i have good deal at Spar there is gas water called Novella frizzante , i believe it is cheap cost around 1,75 for six bottles.
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I have bad tradition now , Tap water it can not make anything for me when i want drink and it is like i am not drinking at all , since years i drink only gas water and it should be very cold .

i have good deal at Spar there is gas water called Novella frizzante , i believe it is cheap cost around 1,75 for six bottles.
Bad tradition ? Reminds me of our "Konfirmations-Pfarrer". He, it was in the mid-60ies, had been on a visit with mates to Israel and Trans-Jordan, and had arrived in a hotel in East-Jerusalem. He arrived in his room and was very very thirsty, and so, dis-regarding all warnings drank a lot out of the tap. When getting down he saw some workers bringing up water from a kind of well to the side of the road to the tank above the hotel ! Well, he survived without ANY problems. The man now still is alive in his own apartments in his 90ies !
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Not totally true. Brands like Dasani which are effectively tap water which has been through a filter are lower cost to produce and ship than "source" waters that must come from Evian or Voss or similar, but they also sell at a lower price as they don't command that premium.

Imagine a $2 bottle of Evian for sale in the US. 40% of that is retailer margin, leaving $1.20. What do you think it costs to pack and ship that water? 50c? Probably more, but that leaves 70c. The bottle and cap - another 20c. Advertising, running the factory, the sales salaries, you've probably got around 20c left for profit and processing the water itself. So I'm not crying for the producers, but it isn't anywhere CLOSE to the profits made on Colas or Energy Drinks for example.

What people tend to forget is that this industry has (Porters Five Forces Fans!) VERY low barriers to entry. Anybody can bottle water, it takes no special knowledge or equipment. In that kind of industry, margins are almost always squeezed. People always assume that water companies make loads of money because water is free, right? But what % of the cost of other bottles or mass produced foods is actually in the ingredients - not very much at all. And those things typically sell for a premium

OP - To answer the question, I drink tap water too when I'm at home, but when I'm out I drink San Pelligrino in the street, or if I'm eating out, I drink Arctic Club - which is made from the distilled tears of baby seals.
This is all relative. Saying anyone can get into bottling water is kinda short sighted-or the same could be said about almost any manufactured product. To compete with nestle for instance one would need substantial startup funds, experience in food/beverage manufacturing for facility design. Engineers in injection moulding, blow molding and process control to tie everything together. This all is no trivial task-even for very skilled/experienced engineers.
As for the profit margins--the nestle facilities like Hollis have them even higher than most would imagine--and that's not even their best running plant
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This is all relative. Saying anyone can get into bottling water is kinda short sighted-or the same could be said about almost any manufactured product. To compete with nestle for instance one would need substantial startup funds, experience in food/beverage manufacturing for facility design. Engineers in injection moulding, blow molding and process control to tie everything together. This all is no trivial task-even for very skilled/experienced engineers.
As for the profit margins--the nestle facilities like Hollis have them even higher than most would imagine--and that's not even their best running plant
You are right to a degree. I just mean that its easier to make water than chocolate bars or yoghurt

Do Nestle plants run as profit centres? That's a surprise to me
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Re: What's you favourite Swiss mineral water?

Swiss favorite: Migros Budget (formerly known as Aven)

Foreign favorites: San Benedetto Frizzante, Perrier
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Re: What's you favourite Swiss mineral water?

Water has a taste. Some people are sensitive to it and its variations. There is in my eyes nothing out of the extraordinary in the fact that people might have preferences for water, as for anything that has a taste.
I like Badoit, France and the usual coop one, light fizzy. Valser water is softer in taste, good with food.
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